RDO 198-1 up grade for SDA 1C

bobt
bobt Posts: 280
edited March 2009 in Vintage Speakers
Is this the right parts list for this upgrade?
Also I have no self control on volume, so the Polyswitches must remain. Someone said Polk will give you new ones for free, is that correct?

1- 12uf cap
1- 4.4uf cap
1- 20uf cap
1- 40uf cap
2- 7.5 ohm resistor
1- 2.7 ohm resistor

Is this correct for this ugrade or am i missing something? Where are these "polyswitches"? Are they whats called RXE135 on the schematic?

Thanks
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited March 2009
    Not sure about the XO parts but the tweet for the 1Cs is the RDO194
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited March 2009
    There was never an approved TL upgrade for the 1Cs. If you want to try to make a pair, go ahead, but it may be more of an involved process than you think.

    As far as the polyswitches, they are labeled as RXE135 or Safeguard, and Polk will send you new ones if you ask.
  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited March 2009
    The answer to the polyswitches is yes
    You should see them on the x-over. Small, roundish things and mustard in color.
  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited March 2009
    You should pull the x-over to be absolutely sure whats in there. The values are printed on all components. When you pull the x-overs it will also give you an idea as to what your working with. Pictures will also help the guys with advice in the future. Also if you have not done it already do a forum search and do some studying
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,214
    edited March 2009
    There are numerous threads here with pics to help guide you.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    edited March 2009
    OK..now i'm confused.....I thought I could upgrade to the SL-3000 or the RDO 198.
    On the 1C is this not correct?....you can only do the RDO- 194????

    Hay anything is better then the SL- 2000....but i thought I could go better????
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,850
    edited March 2009
    Just use the RDO-194. I don't think many folks here think that the 198 is really that much better than the 194. Do the tweeters, then upgrade the x-over with good quality caps and resistors.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,214
    edited March 2009
    billbillw wrote: »
    Just use the RDO-194. I don't think many folks here think that the 198 is really that much better than the 194. Do the tweeters, then upgrade the x-over with good quality caps and resistors.

    This is the way to go.............and it's a dramatic improvement. Night and day.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • bsoko2
    bsoko2 Posts: 1,449
    edited March 2009
    heiney9 wrote: »
    This is the way to go.............and it's a dramatic improvement. Night and day.

    H9

    I did my SDA SRS 2.3's with the RDO194's and it did make a big difference. I also have a AI-1 interconnect by Ben that is modeled after the Dreadnaught. Later this summer the crossovers get done.

    Bill
  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    edited March 2009
    OK, thanks guys...I thought the RDO -198 was the way to go...but if you say the 194 is right for the 1C...great, and you can just plug them in without the up grade to the X- over..fine. I replaced 1 X-over when Polk still made them, the other is from 19XX..what ever....the poly switch in that is shot and keeps shutting down the tweeters....so that has to be replaced.

    I will probably just pull both X overs and replace with the upgrades.
    I also need some drivers....I may just buy all new drivers for both speakers.

    The reason is I have tried to buy these in the past....Polk said they were out didn't have them and didn't know when or ..."IF" they were going to get them.

    That didn't sit well with me...if they stop making the drivers.....NOT GOOD....

    I don't know if they changed there tune..since everybody loves these speakers...but i may just keep the extra's on the side..I only need maybe 2 ...but..if they stop making them...well........
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited March 2009
    I was able to replace either the 6510 or 6511 from Polk. I forget which one. Call them.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,746
    edited March 2009
    I thought the RDO -198 was the way to go

    The HF circuit in the 1C's is designed for the SL2000/RD0194-1 tweeters. To enable the HF circuit to utilize the RD0198-1 would require a complete redesign, so the RD0194-1 is your only option.
    I don't think many folks here think that the 198 is really that much better than the 194.

    I disagree. I found the RD0198-1 to sound much better. However, it won't work in all of the SDA's. That said, the RD0194-1 is far superior to the SL2000.
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