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cfrizz
cfrizz Posts: 13,415
edited March 2009 in Speakers
I'm trying to determine if I have a problem or not.

Do any of you find your sub shutting itself off when it's in auto sense mode even though music is playing? Because that is what is happening to me. If a song then comes on with a heavier bass line it will turn itself back on.

Is it really that unsensitive? Is there anyway of getting around this other than always leaving the sub on.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,271
    edited February 2009
    I don't recall that ever happening to me, but I always kept mine on Cathy.
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited February 2009
    that's not right

    might try turning up the sub level on the Sunfire, and the Polk level down, so more signal is going to the sub and maybe it will stay awake.
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  • tcrossma
    tcrossma Posts: 1,301
    edited February 2009
    How do you have the sub hooked up? To a receiver? What do you have the crossover frequency set at? If it's low (i.e. 40-60) then maybe the music you are playing just doesn't have bass that low for a stretch of time and therefore the sub isn't being called into action?

    I would have thought the time-out value on the sub shutting down would have been high enough for this not to happen though
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited February 2009
    Cathy what kind of sub cable are you running?
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,094
    edited February 2009
    cfrizz wrote: »
    I'm trying to determine if I have a problem or not.

    Do any of you find your sub shutting itself off when it's in auto sense mode even though music is playing? Because that is what is happening to me. If a song then comes on with a heavier bass line it will turn itself back on.

    Is it really that unsensitive? Is there anyway of getting around this other than always leaving the sub on.

    Dang Cathy...my one Velo is doing the same thing, the other Velo is working fine.

    The LED light comes on...but it's not playing (if I crank the volumn it will come on) or it will play & cut off while the other one is still playing. I contacted Velo & they had me raise the master sub volumn up to 75% (+9) on my NAD AVR & then calibrate the sound down w/ SPL meter. They thought it wasn't getting enough signal. That didn't work so the amp has to be sent back to Velo for repair. They said it sounds like a bad sensor. Minor repair that only takes two days at Velo. At least I still have the other one to hold me over. Hopefully your's is ok.
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  • jabrax
    jabrax Posts: 315
    edited February 2009
    Hi Cathy, I had a similiar problem with the 600 and and emo pre.
    I was using a rat shack sub cable. By luck, I decided to pick up a better sub cable on the cheap, and it has worked great ever since.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited February 2009
    Interesting. Ok fellas I will investigate further this weekend. Thanks.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited February 2009
    Are you using a decent cable? I had a similar problem with a cheapo cable AR cable from Best Buy. Replacing it with a cable from BJC resolved it. I assume the cheapo had too much resistance. The other suggestion above about raising the level out on your pre/pro and lowering the level on your sub can also fix the problem.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited February 2009
    Yeah I have a Monster cable that I got years ago & I'm using an old Radio Shack cable for my Boston sub.

    I'm going to go get 2 new sub cables this weekend & give those a shot first.

    Unless someone here has some they want to sell. I need at least a 10 foot one & a 6 foot one.
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  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited February 2009
    Is there a left and right input for LFE on that sub? You could always try a Y-cable at the sub itself. 2-male to a single female. It would add a little boost to the signal at the sub amp and might help. Wouldn't hurt to try.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited February 2009
    cfrizz wrote: »
    Yeah I have a Monster cable that I got years ago & I'm using an old Radio Shack cable for my Boston sub.

    I'm going to go get 2 new sub cables this weekend & give those a shot first.

    Unless someone here has some they want to sell. I need at least a 10 foot one & a 6 foot one.
    Running two subs off of one line out is contributing to your issue.
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited February 2009
    I think turning up sub setting on your processor and adjusting volume on the sub amp accordingly is going to be the best solution here. not enough signal when volume is low with little bass to keep the sub amp on.

    I had that problem with my diy sub waaaay back in the day when I first hooked it up. i tweaked the settings according and havent had a problem since. lets say if your sub volume is past 11:00, it's definitly what the problem is
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited February 2009
    Face wrote: »
    Running two subs off of one line out is contributing to your issue.

    I'm utilizing 2 of the 3 sub inputs on my Sunfire.

    ohskigod wrote: »
    I think turning up sub setting on your processor and adjusting volume on the sub amp accordingly is going to be the best solution here. not enough signal when volume is low with little bass to keep the sub amp on.

    I had that problem with my diy sub waaaay back in the day when I first hooked it up. i tweaked the settings according and havent had a problem since. lets say if your sub volume is past 11:00, it's definitly what the problem is

    Lou, my subs never go past 11, most times they sit around 9-10.

    The problem usually happens when my volume is low in the mornings & nights as to not disturb my neighbors.
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited February 2009
    cfrizz wrote: »
    Yeah I have a Monster cable that I got years ago & I'm using an old Radio Shack cable for my Boston sub.

    I'm going to go get 2 new sub cables this weekend & give those a shot first.

    Unless someone here has some they want to sell. I need at least a 10 foot one & a 6 foot one.

    I have two sub cables from Signal, one around 15 feet, the other around 20. PM if interested. These have been used about 2 months before I moved into a dedicated theater room using BJ cables.
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited February 2009
    Sherardp wrote: »
    I have two sub cables from Signal, one around 15 feet, the other around 20. PM if interested. These have been used about 2 months before I moved into a dedicated theater room using BJ cables.

    You chose BJC over Signal Cable?
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  • CowboyRJB2
    CowboyRJB2 Posts: 58
    edited March 2009
    I have 2 DSW 600Pro's and have not experienced your problem
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited March 2009
    I changed out my cables & it still happened. I just leave it on all the time now. How high should the volume be via the Sunfire? I have it at +2.
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