Carver Silver 1 Tube Preamp RARE STUFF

megasat16
megasat16 Posts: 3,521
edited February 2009 in The Clubhouse
Hello All,

I am just re-posting what I found on the Carver Forum. It appears that these super rare Carver Tube Preamp to be re-made again by the man who designed it, Bob Carver himself and with the helps of others.

So, the news is there. I am not sure it's a vaporware or a reality but you can pre-order one in Carver Forum by contacting DaveS or Toymaker.

The price seems right for the Audiophiles with Tubes in Mind. Get yours today before it becomes History again.

http://www.carveraudio.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7572
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,380
    edited February 2009
    ... I was going to drop a link to this as well, but Mega beat me to it.... looks like an awesome idea and I hope it flies!
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited February 2009
    megasat16 wrote: »
    The price seems right for the Audiophiles with Tubes in Mind.

    "We are guessing the cost per unit will be in the neighborhood of $5,000-6,000."

    Well, I wouldn't say the price seems "right". You can get lots of very good, proven quality preamps, tubed or SS, for a LOT less than that.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,987
    edited February 2009
    megasat16 wrote: »
    .......I am not sure it's a vaporware or a reality......
    It's reality. ;)
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited February 2009
    Ricardo wrote: »
    "We are guessing the cost per unit will be in the neighborhood of $5,000-6,000."

    Well, I wouldn't say the price seems "right". You can get lots of very good, proven quality preamps, tubed or SS, for a LOT less than that.
    I'd be shocked if he sold 10.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited February 2009
    Face wrote: »
    I'd be shocked if he sold 10.

    Maybe; there's a lot of diehard fans that would probably buy it without even listening to it first.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2009
    Ricardo wrote: »
    Maybe; there's a lot of diehard fans that would probably buy it without even listening to it first.

    You are probabally right Ricardo,,, I'll bet that if he brings any with him (and you know he will) to Carverfest, deals will be struck. I met some very cordial,knowledgable,and Hardcore Carver fans at last years fest.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,987
    edited February 2009
    I didn't see any.......:D
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  • skipf
    skipf Posts: 694
    edited February 2009
    You were drunk the whole time Treitz.:p
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited February 2009
    skipf wrote: »
    You were drunk the whole time Treitz.:p

    HA~


    That's the pot calling the kettle black...hehehehe

    ...not that I had a lot of room to talk, either....
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,987
    edited February 2009
    *hiccup*.......I'm still recovering.......*hiccup* :D
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited February 2009
    For five or six grand you can buy some very Fine world class Preamplifiers in pristine condition on the used market. Dont get me wrong because i really like Bob Carver and his designs but it seems like quite a bit of money to take a stroll down memory lane.thanks....WCW III
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,987
    edited February 2009
    I don't get it. This is a no holds barred/cost no object pre-amp that's going to be improved upon by Bob from even the original design in which two of which were ever built. Both were prototypes and 99.999% of the world has yet to hear them. How can this be strolling down memory lane when only a privy select few have even heard it? These will also not be used, they will be brand spankin' new and signed, designed and updated by the man himself. This is not your normal, run of the mill, standard production Carver gear.

    The Silver Sevens [which the Silver One was built to specifically complement] are still critically acclaimed amplifiers after all these years and to be honest, if those are a walk down memory lane, I'd prefer a parking spot ON memory lane. They were designed to emulate a $200,000.00+ tube amplifier, however the Silver Sevens had about 5 times the available power. Yeah, I'll take a parking spot please.

    I can't wait to get my ears on the ultra rare Silver 9's this year. They will be paired up with the Silver One and one of four Carver or Sunfire speakers, 3 of which are custom and two of which the world has never heard.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited February 2009
    treitz3 wrote: »
    I don't get it. This is a no holds barred/cost no object pre-amp that's going to be improved upon by Bob from even the original design in which two of which were ever built. Both were prototypes and 99.999% of the world has yet to hear them. How can this be strolling down memory lane when only a privy select few have even heard it?

    Tom, that's my whole point when I say that for 5 or 6 grand you can choose from many great sounding, proven quality preamps. I wouldn't put even $500 in a preamp that no one has heard ;)
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,987
    edited February 2009
    They will be at Carverfest this year along with a plethora of Carver gear that many folks have never heard. The select few who attend will be the only review you get unless you plan on attending yourself. I will be traveling down to Florida to help with the new Sunfire speakers that are currently are in the design phase and I will get a chance to hear the Silver 6's, Silver 9's and the Silver One. I might have a chance to listen to the newest Carver speaker as well [also in the design phase], depending on where the progress is going at that point. I can offer a review at that point but I'm just a redneck down in Norff Cackalaki that don't know nuffin' about audio stuff-n'-all.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,987
    edited February 2009
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    The tubes you see in them right now will not be the tubes that will come with them. They are going to be replaced with better tubes and the resistor values will be modded to reflect the new tubes along with some other design modifications. 21 tubes total just for the Silver One.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited February 2009
    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    Now I get it; you need to be able to afford to spend 5 grand on the pre, just because you will spend roughly a grand every 12-18 months to get all those NOS tubes.....:D
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,987
    edited February 2009
    Ed Zachary.
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited February 2009
    treitz3 wrote: »
    image.php?album_id=12&image_id=423

    image.php?album_id=12&image_id=424

    image.php?album_id=12&image_id=425

    image.php?album_id=12&image_id=427

    The tubes you see in them right now will not be the tubes that will come with them. They are going to be replaced with better tubes and the resistor values will be modded to reflect the new tubes along with some other design modifications. 21 tubes total just for the Silver One.
    Wow! thats alot of valves :)
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,705
    edited February 2009
    Interesting... looks a lot like the statement preamp Mark Deneen designed for ADC ca. the early 1980s, with a passel of 6DJ8s. I briefly owned one of these (that cost me $13 on eBAY); I passed it on to its creator, who wanted one for his own collection.

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,705
    edited February 2009
    yeah, it was a little dusty, but hard to complain for $13.
    13 6DJ8s; two Jensen MC step-up transformers, and dual power supplies. I didn't really mind paying for the dust.
  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited February 2009
    Ricardo wrote: »
    "We are guessing the cost per unit will be in the neighborhood of $5,000-6,000."

    Well, I wouldn't say the price seems "right". You can get lots of very good, proven quality preamps, tubed or SS, for a LOT less than that.


    I agrees that there are tons of proven good components out there for less. But this is a little different when I mean the price is Right. It's for the Audiophiles who falls in the category below.

    1. Cost is no Object
    2. Carver Fans Who has no problem paying 4-5G for a SunFire stuff
    3. Collector (to sell later for more money).

    Considering all that, that preamp may actually sounds very sweet upon listening evaluation and may kick most high end pre a run for the money.

    For me, I don't fit in any of the above category and I am **** broke regardless of the price. I love Carver Stuff and I wish it's more budget friendly but I am not OCCD (look in carver forum for this word). Anyway, I still feel the price is right for others who have deep pocket and don't mind 100G speakers and 10G I/C. ;)

    After all, this preamp is made to order kind of stuff and will not have many around. So, it's more of the rarity than the sonic quality alone.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2009
    I'm no Carver fan but the limited edition pre-amp idea sounds really cool to me. I'd love to have the companion piece to my CTC BBQ down the road. I don't see the benefit of that many tubes in the signal path and never liked the design of my Sonic Frontiers Line 3either but it sure did sound good. Hey, YMMV but that's tight.
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