chimp attack 911 call - (disturbing)

2»

Comments

  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited February 2009
    There is a huge difference between some moron having a 30' python or 400 pound gorilla as a house pet and a guy that was raised wrestling, capturing and handling crocodiles doing so while operating his zoo with 40 years of experience.

    Also during these shows, Steve had around 5 or more guys hanging back that woudlve been there in a flash should anything go wrong. And it never did. These were controlled environments (as much as they could be) with plenty of safeguards and help in place.

    I hear what youre saying tho and Im sure there are several people out there that fit your discription - however Steve Irwin is not one of them. I am a huge fan of this guy and he singlehandedly changed my views about a lot of animals. He truly loved wildlife and dedicated his entire life to conserving, studying and protecting them (God Im starting to sound like a hippy here). So Im not saying youre wrong necessarily - just that youre wrong about Steve Irwin. This guy is a personal hero of mine.

    steve_irwin_croc.jpg
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited February 2009
    comfortablycurt wrote: »
    That would have been much more affective...but instead, they give it a prescription drug that has next to no calming effects. Makes sense doesn't it?

    As far as I know, Xanax doesn't really do much for "calming". It makes you hallucinate, and view reality quite a bit differently...not exactly the greatest thing for calming down a pissed off chimp. It probably had no idea what was going on.


    This is a classic story of an animal controlling their owner. Hearing stories about the chimp taking off in the owners car by itself, drinking wine...and all these other things really tells you who the blame is on. It's not the chimps fault...it was drugged up and probably had no idea what it was doing. This is purely the owners fault.

    She has to live with the guilt of this for the rest of her life now...some people need to learn that letting your pets control you is a bad thing. You're in charge of your pets...not the other way around. Some people don't see it that was I guess.


    It's my understanding that Xanax is more of an anti-anxiety drug that takes a lot more than ONE dose to build up in your system. Giving a 200 pound chimp a dose of Xanax seems ABSURD on multiple levels...where does one even begin.

    It goes without saying that I agree with most everyone above. This thing is NOT a pet. And if you had it around humans it should've been heavily TRANQUILlZED not medicated with human psychiatric drugs. Such drugs have different effects on different humans let alone different SPECIES. That is why good Psychiatrists spend a bit of time in configuring each patients meds!

    This entire thing would be absurd if it weren't so TRAGIC.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited February 2009
    ND13 wrote: »

    She let the chimp drink alcohol, too.

    Actually, it was wine. Maybe the poor woman who was attacked offered the chimp some Merlot.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • obieone
    obieone Posts: 5,077
    edited February 2009
    O'Reilly had another woman on who was bit by this chimp back in 1996, and the owner DIDN'T reimburse for her medical expenses. If the latest victim doesn't make it, she(OWNER) should be charged with negligent homicide, IMHO.
    I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE!
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    MacLeod wrote: »
    There is a huge difference between some moron having a 30' python or 400 pound gorilla as a house pet and a guy that was raised wrestling, capturing and handling crocodiles doing so while operating his zoo with 40 years of experience.

    Also during these shows, Steve had around 5 or more guys hanging back that woudlve been there in a flash should anything go wrong. And it never did. These were controlled environments (as much as they could be) with plenty of safeguards and help in place.

    I hear what youre saying tho and Im sure there are several people out there that fit your discription - however Steve Irwin is not one of them. I am a huge fan of this guy and he singlehandedly changed my views about a lot of animals. He truly loved wildlife and dedicated his entire life to conserving, studying and protecting them (God Im starting to sound like a hippy here). So Im not saying youre wrong necessarily - just that youre wrong about Steve Irwin. This guy is a personal hero of mine.

    x2 on every bit of that.

    Comparing Steve Irwin to this situation is like comparing apples to screwdrivers. Completely unrelated.

    Steve Irwin was a trained professional...that was his job, he studied wildlife and interacted with it. He didn't keep crocodiles as house pets. Those are very controlled situations in those pictures. Notice the fences around the pen. Also, as Macleod said, there were probably several support guys standing by that would have been there in an instant had anything gone wrong.

    This is a little different than a drugged up chimpanzee that drives cars and drinks wine...lol
    The nirvana inducer-
    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited February 2009
    Keiko wrote: »
    Wow! I have a lot of respect for Steve Irwin and his ideas on conservation, but this is just wrong on so many levels.

    He teased one to many animals, (stingray I believe), and payed the price. You can only screw around with animals so many times before it catches up with you.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited February 2009
    keiko wrote: »
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090220/ap_on_re_us/chimpanzee_attack
    they took baths together and cuddled in the bed they shared.
    wtf!?
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2009
    Face wrote: »
    wtf!?

    yeah,, I read that too,,something ain't right there

    +1 WTF
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited February 2009
    BlueFox wrote: »
    He teased one to many animals, (stingray I believe), and payed the price. You can only screw around with animals so many times before it catches up with you.

    He never teased animals. He loved them and treated them with respect.

    When capturing crocs to relocate them to safer environments, he used a top jaw rope instead of roping the whole jaw. Why? Even tho this was much more dangerous for him, it was safer for the croc. He also used a stick to hook the rope into the mouth as opposed to a metal pole so when the croc bit down, he wouldnt break any teeth. And the reason why he had to do all this and wrestle thru the mud with these 15' monsters is because he refused to use tranquilizers on them because theyre very dangerous for crocs and could kill them.

    When handling venomous snakes, he never used those metal rods to hold them down or pick them up because they could hurt the snake. So instead of risking hurting the snakes he picked them up by the end of the tail which didnt hurt them at all.

    Here is a guy that put himself at great risk in order to reduce the chance of hurting the animal.

    And he wasnt teasing the sting ray - he was petting it. He was swimming along with it like he'd done a million times before.
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter