VM20 Center

CaligulaPolk
CaligulaPolk Posts: 1,650
edited April 2009 in Speakers
Is there any way people here can buy Single Center VM 20?

Center VM20 is listed as pair for $999 on polk site? Why would we need pair of center and why is vm 20 center is expensive than csi a6?

It seems that i cant place rti a9's by the tv as front speakers. My Panasonic 58" PZ850U took most of the wall where it is mounted. It will leave me about 10-11 inches gap from tv to edge of the wall.

VM is 6" wide and RTI a9 is 8-7/8" wide. Now new decision is tough!! Help guys
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    You can buy the VM20's either as a pair for front/surround channel usage, or as a single for center channel duty.

    They designed it so that it will work for either placement.

    So I take it you're looking at the VM series speakers now?
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  • CaligulaPolk
    CaligulaPolk Posts: 1,650
    edited February 2009
    You can buy the VM20's either as a pair for front/surround channel usage, or as a single for center channel duty.

    They designed it so that it will work for either placement.

    So I take it you're looking at the VM series speakers now?

    Originally plan was buying VM, then RTI a9 when I had plenty space until I got this monster tv. VM will be great with space & sleek and it all depends if VM is designed for HT? I also know it needs sub and amp. How much would single center vm 20 cost? $500ish?

    Vm30 for front
    Vm20 for Center
    vm20 for surrounds
    vm10 for side

    Whatcha guys think?
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    VM's were designed mainly for HT usage. So they should work well.

    I'm not sure what a single would cost...but probably somewhere in 500 range.

    That'd probably be a good setup. I've never heard the VM's before, but I'm in line for a demo on the VM20's...so I'll get a chance to get my ears on em before to long.:)
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  • CaligulaPolk
    CaligulaPolk Posts: 1,650
    edited February 2009
    ok what is PROS and CONS : VM series Versus RTI A series


    please explain and why :D
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  • vonnie123
    vonnie123 Posts: 326
    edited February 2009
    You can buy a pair of VM20s from the Polk Direct site on ebay for $600. If you want to buy a single VM20, email Polk Direct and inquire if they would "buy it now" a single VM20 for around half of that. I bought two single VM10s from Polk Direct and they were very easy to deal with over the phone.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    That I can't really tell you, as I haven't heard the VM's personally yet.

    The VM's don't have as much bass output as the RTi's though. The VM30's go down to about 50 hz, and the RTi A9's can hit below 20hz IIRC. Using a sub with the VM's though I'm sure it wouldn't really be an issue.
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  • CaligulaPolk
    CaligulaPolk Posts: 1,650
    edited February 2009
    Ive sampled Definitive tech speakers look similar to VM30 at best buy. I was blown away becuz i was looking at receiver and i could feel the bass without sub. I was impressed and i was hoping VM30 or Rti a9 will blow def tech away :D

    I will call Polk tomorrow and find out info about single center vm 20 :D
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  • onstar
    onstar Posts: 6
    edited February 2009
    I won a pair of VM20 from Pok direct but I did not pay yet because I want to make sure I can buy a center speaker. If you want to get one speaker, pm me.
  • onstar
    onstar Posts: 6
    edited February 2009
    Ebay item number is 230319426485. If you want to buy a pair, you can pay and ship to your address.
  • mr2sw21
    mr2sw21 Posts: 115
    edited April 2009
    please correct me if I am wrong I found VM20 L/C/R in newegg.com (only one color though) but they are selling pretty cheap only 169.99 plus tax but free shipping. Is that what you are looking for?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290127&Tpk=vm20
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,495
    edited April 2009
    mr2sw21 wrote: »
    please correct me if I am wrong I found VM20 L/C/R in newegg.com (only one color though) but they are selling pretty cheap only 169.99 plus tax but free shipping. Is that what you are looking for?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290127&Tpk=vm20

    great find! good looking out on that one...:)
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited April 2009
    Ah damnit! I just bought one from NewEgg just a few weeks ago for $199.99 Arrgh! :mad:

    Even the VM30's are down to $350 each.
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  • mr2sw21
    mr2sw21 Posts: 115
    edited April 2009
    wonder why they sell that low? Everywhere sell at least their double. Something wrong with them?
  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited April 2009
    My personal opinion is that maybe the mirror like silver finish is not the most desirable. They're not blowing out the Black version. They're probably just blowing through slow moving stock. At this price, I'm not against throwing a coat of spray paint on them. Hmmm. I might try that with the center I got.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited April 2009
    That's a great price on the VM's. I'm considering using VM's for a bedroom HT setup sometime down the line, but that's still far off in the future at this point.
    mmadden28 wrote: »
    My personal opinion is that maybe the mirror like silver finish is not the most desirable. They're not blowing out the Black version. They're probably just blowing through slow moving stock. At this price, I'm not against throwing a coat of spray paint on them. Hmmm. I might try that with the center I got.

    That's possible. With the RTi's the trend is that the cherry speakers go for more money than the black versions. Due to desirability I'm assuming.
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  • chemical
    chemical Posts: 100
    edited April 2009
    mr2sw21 wrote: »
    wonder why they sell that low? Everywhere sell at least their double. Something wrong with them?


    i've wondered that myself.......but newegg is an authorized online polk audio dealer
  • CaligulaPolk
    CaligulaPolk Posts: 1,650
    edited April 2009
    wow!!! 169 dollars?? not bad!! DAMN!!! If im not moving, im buying it today.. :(

    wife said no speakers, no new electronics til we move to florida and we can start buying stuff after we find new home after staying at hotel. dont think hotel will appreciate polk speakers lol


    soooo madden, u got urs yet?
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited April 2009
    CP, when are you moving?
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  • mr2sw21
    mr2sw21 Posts: 115
    edited April 2009
    but everyone keep saying RTi is better them VM is that true? If that is true why VM serious is more expensive than RTi? Any way Since newegg selling so low about the VM serious I think I am going to get a set any way.
  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited April 2009
    VM series has an industrial heavy duty aluminum enclosure. A little more costly than an MDF box from China.

    That price from Newegg is the best I've ever seen. I'm in the same boat as mmadde, I just purchased a pair at $199 a piece.
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited April 2009
    mr2sw21 wrote: »
    but everyone keep saying RTi is better them VM is that true? If that is true why VM serious is more expensive than RTi? Any way Since newegg selling so low about the VM serious I think I am going to get a set any way.

    It's because of the extra difficulties involved in building a good sounding speaker in as small of a package as the VM's.

    Like MikeC78 said, the aluminum cabinet adds a bit of cost to the construction process too.
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  • CaligulaPolk
    CaligulaPolk Posts: 1,650
    edited April 2009
    mmadden28 wrote: »
    CP, when are you moving?

    last saturday of June or first week in July....
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  • Hillbilly61
    Hillbilly61 Posts: 702
    edited April 2009
    I think the current paired VMs being offer may be reflecting an emerging school of thought that a single center is basically a mono transition between the left and right fronts. Also, dialog is seldom exactly to the center unless you are listening to a documentary or something like that. So, why not have separate L/R centers!

    I do not know if there is anything to this, but the beasty vintage CS350-LS I acquired this past weekend is IMO basically two center 250s housed in a single box (even has two bass ports). Of course, there is only one set of input lines, so it is unsure how an L/R center aspect is achieved, if at all. It does make me suspect that the L/R center concept has been around for a while.
  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited April 2009
    I think the current paired VMs being offer may be reflecting an emerging school of thought that a single center is basically a mono transition between the left and right fronts. Also, dialog is seldom exactly to the center unless you are listening to a documentary or something like that. So, why not have separate L/R centers!

    I do not know if there is anything to this, but the beasty vintage CS350-LS I acquired this past weekend is IMO basically two center 250s housed in a single box (even has two bass ports). Of course, there is only one set of input lines, so it is unsure how an L/R center aspect is achieved, if at all. It does make me suspect that the L/R center concept has been around for a while.

    :confused:

    5.1 is a discreet channel thing. If a movie is encoded with 5.1, then you will get 5.1 discreet channels of output as the director intended-no mono transitioning. You might see that when applying an audio DSP to make a stereo or non 5.1 source output through all 5.1 channels though.

    L/C/R is Left, Center, and Right, not Left Center and Right Center. It's essentially a satellite speaker system where the L, C, & R are the same model speaker as opposed to the norm where the left and right are the same and the center is different(design).
    You can use 3 VM10's for L, C, & R , or 3 VM20's, or two VM30's as L&R and a VM20 as a center. You can configure the system however you want-You can buy pairs or singles-its just a matter what combo you want.
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  • mr2sw21
    mr2sw21 Posts: 115
    edited April 2009
    I had few questions, I been reading the specs for the VM serious but seem like I can't find what way of speakers they are? I assume the VM30 is a 3 way and VM 20 is 2 way and VM 10 is 2 way also. Am I correct?
    I am planning to buy 2 VM30, 3 VM20 and 2 VM 10, but I just realized my living is not big at all just about 150sq ft will that over kill?
    Last question, I often see people put a piece of wood below the speakers what's that for? If I have a wood (not real wood) floor do I need on of those? Sorry for so many questions I am too new to this world. Appreciate for anyone who can help me out.
  • jon5
    jon5 Posts: 3
    edited April 2009
    Originally plan was buying VM, then RTI a9 when I had plenty space until I got this monster tv. VM will be great with space & sleek and it all depends if VM is designed for HT? I also know it needs sub and amp. How much would single center vm 20 cost? $500ish?

    Vm30 for front
    Vm20 for Center
    vm20 for surrounds
    vm10 for side

    Whatcha guys think?

    only 169 at newegg.com i bought 3 last week
  • CaligulaPolk
    CaligulaPolk Posts: 1,650
    edited April 2009
    VM30 seems sold out at Newegg.com
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    My Home Theater Rig || Television: 58" Panasonic TH-58PZ800U Viera Plasma || Power Conditioner: Power Monster HTS 3600 MKII || Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR805 || Blu-Ray/Gaming: 60 Gigabytes Playstation 3 || Amplifier: Emotiva XPA-5 || Fronts: Polk Audio RT800i || Center: Polk Audio CS245i || Surrounds: TBA|| Subwoofer: TBA
  • polkanddie
    polkanddie Posts: 224
    edited April 2009
    I saw one on ebay, no res for $65, ends in 4 hrs check it out.
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  • polkanddie
    polkanddie Posts: 224
    edited April 2009
    polkanddie wrote: »
    I saw one on ebay, no res for $65, ends in 4 hrs check it out.
    looks like all that is wrong with it is that it has a small crack in it, a great find if you dont care about looks.:cool: theres also a silver one new for 245. idk man check it out.
    TV- Insignia 46'' LED,1080p,120hz
    Monster Power center hts3600 mk2
    Onkyo tx sr 503
    Rm6600 with 4 sanus stands
    SUB(DIY)
    Dayton HPSA500, JVC Arsenal dvc 2ohm 12" wired to 4ohms in 1.5 cu ft sealed box
    extras... RT10's.rti4s.atrium 5's.

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