Audiogon purchases

phipiper10
phipiper10 Posts: 955
edited February 2009 in The Clubhouse
Hey,

I've purchased a bunch of things off A'gon and even sold something. Thus far the experience has been very good and saved a bunch of money.

What do you guys do when the seller says 8 and you get it home to find it's closer to a 6. Meaning the front isn't perfect but rather some small scratches both on front and top. The scratches aren't noticeable when in the rack until you get within a couple of feet. This isn't a deal breaker and the amp sounds good and was fairly priced.

The seller has all positive feedback after 5 exchanges- I'm going to give him positive feedback to not make waves since I have even less feedback and would want to avoid a pissing match where he dings my rating.

I figure I'm just going to email him after the fact to remind him of the scale of which I'm sure he is already aware.

Am I copping out or since it's not a deal breaker just let it go?

Who here has been in a pissing match with another A'goner?
Analog Source: Rega P3-24 Exact 2 w/GT delrin platter & Neo TT-PSU Digital Source: Lumin T2 w/Roon (NUC) DAC: Denafrips Pontus II Phono Preamp: Rega Aria MK3 Preamp: Rogue RP-7 Amp: Pass X150.8 Speakers: Joseph Audio Perspective 2, Audio Physic Tempo Plus Cables: Morrow M4 ICs & Audio Art SC-5 ePlus, Shunyata PCs Misc: Shunyata Hydra Delta D6, VTI rack, GIK acoustic panels
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2009
    Take it to email first but there is a process for open discussion and dispute resolution within Audiogon.

    Don't leave feedback. He can't leave you negative feedback since you have to "approve" the feedback.
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  • Polkitup2
    Polkitup2 Posts: 1,621
    edited February 2009
    If there are scratches on the front face plate it is not an 8 and I would contact the seller to let them know that.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,459
    edited February 2009
    What do you guys do when the seller says 8 and you get it home to find it's closer to a 6.

    Did you pick it up in person?
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  • phipiper10
    phipiper10 Posts: 955
    edited February 2009
    All right I just emailed him nicely with photos and suggesting what I thought would be fair leaving it open for him to suggest some other alternative.

    We'll see. Photos of the amp below. I didn't take photos of the top edge which was touched up with a marker.

    Seems more like a 6 or 7 at BEST. No it was shipped, he can't really blame it on shipping since it was touched up with the marker.

    I specifically asked in email if there were any dents dings or scratches to which he replied cosmetics were really a 9!

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22195126@N05/
    Analog Source: Rega P3-24 Exact 2 w/GT delrin platter & Neo TT-PSU Digital Source: Lumin T2 w/Roon (NUC) DAC: Denafrips Pontus II Phono Preamp: Rega Aria MK3 Preamp: Rogue RP-7 Amp: Pass X150.8 Speakers: Joseph Audio Perspective 2, Audio Physic Tempo Plus Cables: Morrow M4 ICs & Audio Art SC-5 ePlus, Shunyata PCs Misc: Shunyata Hydra Delta D6, VTI rack, GIK acoustic panels
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited February 2009
    phipiper10 wrote: »
    This isn't a deal breaker and the amp sounds good and was fairly priced.

    If the above statement is true, then forget about it and enjoy the amp. Sure, you can send the seller a friendly e-mail and suggest that you think the amp is a 6 vs. an 8, but if you're not trying to get a refund, it's not worth the time.
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  • timlitton
    timlitton Posts: 289
    edited February 2009
    The amp is a 6. The bathroom is easily a 9.


    I'd agree about letting it go if it was a fair price and you don't want a refund.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited February 2009
    I agree with Early. If you don't think it's a big deal then why bother mentioning it? So long as it plays then it's doing what it's supposed to do.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited February 2009
    I agree. If it's not a deal breaker just don't leave feedback and let it go.
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,679
    edited February 2009
    It's all good; some email to inform him that his ratings system is off could/should educate him, and possibly help future buyers.


    BTW .... is this a "Before" or "After" picture:


    bathroom.jpg
    Sal Palooza
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  • phipiper10
    phipiper10 Posts: 955
    edited February 2009
    HA, that is of course the before bathroom. Hopefully you checked out the after!!!

    So I offered what I thought might be a fair concession about 10%. He came back with about 5%. I responded with something in the middle but he then said well, might ship it back if it's anything more than 5%. My initial 10% wasn't intended to be my initial starting point for a negotiation but oh well.

    So I got something, which is good but I wouldn't have bought an amp rated a 6 either. He never mentioned once oh sorry or I didn't know the rating scale or well it's close to a 7 or anything.

    Good enough!!! Now onto painting the bedroom!!!
    Analog Source: Rega P3-24 Exact 2 w/GT delrin platter & Neo TT-PSU Digital Source: Lumin T2 w/Roon (NUC) DAC: Denafrips Pontus II Phono Preamp: Rega Aria MK3 Preamp: Rogue RP-7 Amp: Pass X150.8 Speakers: Joseph Audio Perspective 2, Audio Physic Tempo Plus Cables: Morrow M4 ICs & Audio Art SC-5 ePlus, Shunyata PCs Misc: Shunyata Hydra Delta D6, VTI rack, GIK acoustic panels
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited February 2009
    Glad you got it worked out, and nice work in that bathroom. Like the floor.
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  • whitetruk
    whitetruk Posts: 308
    edited February 2009
    mrbigbluelight wrote: »
    It's all good; some email to inform him that his ratings system is off could/should educate him, and possibly help future buyers.





    could not of said it better myself
    I thought it was fairly amusing also. The Polk Ogre doesn't always get 'it'
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,459
    edited February 2009
    I'm sorry, but letting the seller off the hook isn't doing anyone any favors, especially you.
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  • phipiper10
    phipiper10 Posts: 955
    edited February 2009
    We just disagreed on the concession but I wasn't going to ship it back...at who's expense...a whole other thing to argue about?

    For the last few $$ we were haggling over it wasn't worth it.

    I'm letting it go ....a big step for me!(even though I'll continue to curse his name under my breath as long as I own the amp);)
    Analog Source: Rega P3-24 Exact 2 w/GT delrin platter & Neo TT-PSU Digital Source: Lumin T2 w/Roon (NUC) DAC: Denafrips Pontus II Phono Preamp: Rega Aria MK3 Preamp: Rogue RP-7 Amp: Pass X150.8 Speakers: Joseph Audio Perspective 2, Audio Physic Tempo Plus Cables: Morrow M4 ICs & Audio Art SC-5 ePlus, Shunyata PCs Misc: Shunyata Hydra Delta D6, VTI rack, GIK acoustic panels
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  • dfranks
    dfranks Posts: 207
    edited February 2009
    I am on my second purchase at Audiogon. the first one was a couple months back for 15+ year old amp that the seller had said was 7/10. When I received it I considerered the condition better than that. I am awaiting shipment for my Br player. SO far the only concern I have is the amount of time between sending the money and the seller noting on the website that he indeed received the money seems to lag a bit on this second buy. I pay with paypal so the money is there within minutes of completing the forms. If the seller does not note that he has received the money it looks like I am being slow to pay.....

    I should be able to bypass him and show proof the money was sent on my part that way the sale can move forward........otherwise he can take his sweet*** time and say he hasn't received the money yet.

    Hopefully that is not the case here. I have been had on e-bay before and the big dispute was the seller didn't get the money. SO then a week later and 50 e-emails showing payment to e-bay he :A) has already disapeared off the planet. B) decides he should ship it now as favor to me:mad:
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited February 2009
    I am have quick Audiogon question: Is there a way to search by location? Can I find what items are close to me to save on shipping?
    Jake
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited February 2009
    zingo wrote: »
    I am have quick Audiogon question: Is there a way to search by location? Can I find what items are close to me to save on shipping?

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/srch_fs.pl?0&1&form
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited February 2009
    Nice... :D
    Jake
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,718
    edited February 2009
    I've had this problem before. I took my time and wrote a respectful email to the seller noting the flaws that I saw versus the written A-gon rating system. Since the flaws were not a deal breaker, I just asked for a modest amount of money back due to the variance. Most sellers will come around eventually.
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