Preamp Question?

har_navalta
har_navalta Posts: 957
edited February 2003 in Electronics
I'm kinda interested with a preamp that has a Phono connection with today's Newly a/v preamps...

My question is that is there any brands of todays that has Phono
connections for TURNTABLES?

Any input will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Har
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  • phuz
    phuz Posts: 2,372
    edited February 2003
    If you are asking what I think you are asking, then the answer is yes.

    What other kind of phono connection is there?
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited February 2003
    some do some don't
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited February 2003
    My kind of answer Phuz.


    George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's)
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  • har_navalta
    har_navalta Posts: 957
    edited February 2003
    My preamp do not have a phono connection only AUX jacks,
    now I find a phono preamp to connect Turntables and the phono
    preamp to the Aux jack of my Preamp. I think I need something like this...

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3283&item=3004052454&rd=1
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  • phuz
    phuz Posts: 2,372
    edited February 2003
    That sounds right. I thought you were asking something different. :)

    I can't recommend any brands though. I bet audioreview.com would have the info that you need though. Good luck!
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited February 2003
    har,
    You’re on the right track. A separate, outboard phono pre-amp is what you are seeking.

    I have an Audio Alchemy, “Vac-in-the-Box” that I love. Bought it through Audio Advisor a few years back. Here’s the link to the current models they sell:
    http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/categorylisting.asp?hdnCat=Phono+Preamps&sel=1&CategoryID=45

    I think Audio Alchemy is gone now (at least I can’t find anything but dead links to them), but this could include a valid e-mail address to contact them:
    http://www.audioweb.com/Directory/DirectoryInfo.asp?companyid=34

    Creek Audio is still listed on Audio Advisor and I remember they were highly thought of.

    Don’t know what cartridge you have, MM or MC, but it pays to buy a phono pre-amp that can handle both (not all can). Often the switching from one to the other requires one or more internal changes to the phono pre-amp. Also note that some MC phono pre-amps require a “high output” MC.

    Many choices await you my friend, from spending a couple hundred to a couple thousand, tubes vs. solid state, etc. But why should it be any different than the rest of this crazy hobby?

    I’m not too current, but I’ll help where I can… ;)

    Edit is in italics above...
    More later,
    Tour...
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  • Dr. Spec
    Dr. Spec Posts: 3,780
    edited February 2003
    My Harman Kardon h/k 825 pre amp can take MM/MC. I can even alter the capacitance trim in MC mode by adding 100, 200, or even 300 pico farads.

    I can take the final L/R pre-outs from the h/k 825 and run them into the AUX input of my P.O.S. $70 Sherwood 2 channel stereo receiver and voila! - instant vinyl tunes.

    Point is - you might be able to find a cheaper older pre-amp that would do the same thing as that ACURUS job.
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited February 2003
    Doc,

    Your option is a valid possibility, no doubt about it. HK was well known for it’s fine phono sections. I used my old Yamaha C-2’s built-in MM/MC phono section to feed my B&K AVP2000 in the same way you describe. But my Yamaha’s phono section died a few years ago. It is not uncommon for built-in phono sections to degrade/ die before the rest of the unit. This would make me hesitant to buy a used pre-amp just for its phono section.

    I paid ~$100 for my stand-alone Vac-in-the-Box and it will outperform any “mid-fi” built-in around, and a fair number of stand-alones costing two or three times as much. It handles all MC’s in same way your HK does, through a set of pf capacitors that you manually change. A very good phono pre-amp doesn’t have to cost as much as the Acurus did, it’s just that most do.

    har,
    Did you catch page two of the Audio Advisor web-page? I missed it at first. In case you did too, here’s a link to it. It adds one stand-alone to their offering.
    http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/categorylisting.asp?CategoryID=45&hdnCat=Phono%20Preamps&Page=2
    I don’t know this particular piece of equipment, but I know Sumiko, I own a very highly regarded MC cartridge they make. Also the description of their phono pre-amp is so similar to that of my “Vac-“, that it makes me wonder if they bought the design. Note that the Sumiko also is capable of adjustment to handle all MC’s.
    More later,
    Tour...
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  • har_navalta
    har_navalta Posts: 957
    edited February 2003
    Tour2ma,

    I researched all the links that you provided. It helped me a lot, which one shall I get. I think I will go the one that
    can handle MM/MC cartridge.

    Anyway, thanks for the input.

    Har
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited February 2003
    This is what I'm getting in a few months. http://www.nadelectronics.com/PreAmp/C160.html
    It also handles MM/MC cartridge. The price is also very good.

    Maurice
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  • har_navalta
    har_navalta Posts: 957
    edited February 2003
    Is that an A/V preamp or just 2 channel preamp?
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited February 2003
    I misread the original post there. The NAD is a stereo pre amp. Are you looking for a multichannel(DD?DTS) pre or just a stereo pre with video switches?

    Maurice
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