SDA-1C in my living room...

nooshinjohn
nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
edited April 2011 in Vintage Speakers
i got the sda 1c today and am happy to report all is well
they have never been opened up except for butchered binding posts
already redid them... any andvice or suggestions for enhancing enjoyment of these great speakers?
also are they 4ohm or 8ohm?

thanks
john
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited January 2009
    http://www.polksda.com/sda1creview.shtml

    It should be a 4 ohm set. Schematic is in the SDA Sticky at the top of forum.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2009
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited January 2009
    http://www.polksda.com/sda1creview.shtml

    It should be a 4 ohm set. Schematic is in the SDA Sticky at the top of forum.

    You might want to pop the passive radiator to get an eyeball on the crossovers to make sure they match the schematic values if you are going to do the highly recommended crossover upgrade. Some are also upgrading the Interconnect Connection to Cardas and going with custom silver wire based Interconnect Cables with superior results
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited January 2009
    Lasareath wrote: »
    Congrats!

    They are 6ohm. . .

    Hi Sal,

    Do you have a manual or something other than what I referenced. It's confusing in that it shows nominal 4 ohm, low of 3.9 ohms, but 6 ohms over much of the range.
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
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    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
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    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
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    GIK panels
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2009
    The 1C is 6ohms nominal.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited January 2009
    What did the previous owner do to the binding posts?
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited January 2009
    :)the binding posts were broken off, missing the plastic lock nuts and basically abused. I replaced them with banana plug posts and replaced the original sda terminals with an rca jack. my next step is to replace the top and bottom caps with solid cherry wood caps with a piano gloss finish and recover the grills. as far as the side panels i was thinking about running a strip of cherry from top to bottom about 6 inches wide on the back edge and recovering the remaining side area with grill cloth.

    as far as the ohm rating, just so i understand, they are four ohm speakers on mon/wed/fri and 6ohm on tue/thu/sat and sunday should be a day of rest?:confused::confused:

    thanks for your assistance and support guys:p
    john
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited January 2009
    the manual for the 1b shows 5ohm....
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited January 2009
    the manual for the 1b shows 5ohm....

    1B's and 1C's are not the same. They use different drivers.

    Why the concern about what the Ohm rating is?

    They are 6 Ohm nominal. They do go lower in the lower frequencies but as the word nominal means................the rating is an average over the entire freq range.

    H9

    P.s. Did you read the article link in post #2; that will answer your question plus a whole lot more.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited January 2009
    i want to be certain that I am running them properly, as my yamaha reciever is currently set to 8ohm...
    .............................................lol i know already.... new amp!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited January 2009
    i want to be certain that I am running them properly, as my yamaha reciever is currently set to 8ohm...

    That Yammy won't do them justice. I know it's all you have right now but don't play it too loud and start saving for better amplification. The 1C's will open up and sound 100 times better with quality amplification and a receiver just won;t do them justice.

    Enjoy

    H9

    P.s. You beat me to it. The Yammy will work in the mean time, just don't play it too loud
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2009
    Set your Yammi to 4 ohms till you replace it.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited January 2009
    nooshinjohn, My 1C restoration thread:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70931
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • vlam
    vlam Posts: 282
    edited January 2009
    I just sold my Lsi15 this weekend and was finally brave enough to move my 1C to the living room. My wife didn't freak out but I was very pleased with how they sound. I got 1C months ago and never even attemp to hook them up. Mine are stock but in very good condition. I can't even imainge what they sound like upgraded.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited January 2009
    vlam wrote: »
    I can't even imainge what they sound like upgraded.

    I've done tweeter/xo upgrades on two sets of SDA's so far, and the improvement is spectacular.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2009
    nspindel wrote: »
    I've done tweeter/xo upgrades on two sets of SDA's so far, and the improvement is spectacular.

    I couldn't agree more.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited January 2009
    here are some pictures and information...
    near as i can tell they were build in february of 1988 as indicated by the inspection marks on the drivers. the serial # for left is 8331/8271 right...
    both cabinet tags state sda1, and no reference made to a,b or c models
    the crossovers are quite large and rectangular in shape as shown in the pictures.... ok how the @#!$ do I upload pictures... they are all about 2meg and the system allow 512k. how do i get them into a submittable format?

    thanks as always:confused:
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2009
    ok how the @#!$ do I upload pictures... they are all about 2meg and the system allow 512k. how do i get them into a submittable format?
    This will allow you to resize, crop, etc...

    http://www.irfanview.com/
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited January 2009
    thanks for the help in getting the images formatted properly...
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2009
    I use photobucket to upload my pics. Then I just take and insert the link into the add image button. This works very well.
    Ben
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited January 2009
    nspindel said these might be sda1b's... any ideas?
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited January 2009
    they are 1C's

    they are one of the more desirable SDA 1's
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited January 2009
    nspindel said these might be sda1b's... any ideas?

    No, I didn't mean for you to think that you had 1B's. When you described your XO to me, I said that it sounds like my 2B XO.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited January 2009
    sorry... my mis-understanding
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    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited January 2009
    That's a complete different XO than my 1C's.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited January 2009
    perhaps f1-nut or another of our resident gurus has some input?
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    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2009
    Wtf, looks like a PB SRS2 crossover.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited January 2009
    It's definitely the same board as my 2B XO, although I see a cap in the C2 position, and resistors in R2 and R3 that aren't present in the 2B's. Here's one of the XO's I pulled from the 2B (before I started taking it apart):

    Before.jpg
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited January 2009
    Also looks like there are two extra inductors, one in the location where mine has a ceramic resistor standing up next to C5.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2009
    SRS%202%20Before.jpg

    P/B SRS 2.

    attachment.php?attachmentid=37722&d=1232398056
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