Install New wood floor soooon, need advice.

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  • CaligulaPolk
    CaligulaPolk Posts: 1,650
    edited January 2009
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=4223913&st=speaker+wire&lp=5&type=product&cp=1&id=1051384781209



    I have best buy credit card and i would like to use it. so please recommend wires from best buy. I can price match CC price at best buy.
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  • Pablo
    Pablo Posts: 723
    edited January 2009
    I really don't think you need to go crazy with the speaker wire. Any good 14awg cable will be good enough for what you are doing. The monster stuff is a little over priced and you won't hear that much of a difference (not that it's not good). (I read a review a ways back that radio shacks 14awg sold by the foot got the best bang for the buck. It even beat out sound quality of things costing 5 times as much). As long as you don't use that crapy thin stuff they give with a cheap system you will be fine. And you are fine hiding it behind the molding. Just make sure you leave more than enough to wire everything up (you can always cut off, but you don't want to add on). I wired my whole room before I put up the drywall.
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  • CaligulaPolk
    CaligulaPolk Posts: 1,650
    edited January 2009
    Pablo wrote: »
    I really don't think you need to go crazy with the speaker wire. Any good 14awg cable will be good enough for what you are doing. The monster stuff is a little over priced and you won't hear that much of a difference (not that it's not good). (I read a review a ways back that radio shacks 14awg sold by the foot got the best bang for the buck. It even beat out sound quality of things costing 5 times as much). As long as you don't use that crapy thin stuff they give with a cheap system you will be fine. And you are fine hiding it behind the molding. Just make sure you leave more than enough to wire everything up (you can always cut off, but you don't want to add on). I wired my whole room before I put up the drywall.

    will best buy have 13awg with special coat for drywall?

    if best buy have only monsters so will it be ok, little more money is fine consdering it ll be used on credit card.
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  • jflail2
    jflail2 Posts: 2,868
    edited January 2009
    This stuff is thick, but made specifically for in wall installation:

    Monoprice

    I use this exact cable for my rears, as it's just too much distance for me to justify high end wires. And I like Monoprice for price/quality as a whole.
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  • CaligulaPolk
    CaligulaPolk Posts: 1,650
    edited January 2009
    jflail2 wrote: »
    This stuff is thick, but made specifically for in wall installation:

    Monoprice

    I use this exact cable for my rears, as it's just too much distance for me to justify high end wires. And I like Monoprice for price/quality as a whole.

    not bad price for 500 ft. I think that might be too much feet ( i only need abty 100 for 28 dollars not bad)
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  • CaligulaPolk
    CaligulaPolk Posts: 1,650
    edited January 2009
    How about 8 gauge wire for future speaker upgrades? Sure dont want to remove floor modling everytime upgrade in few months or year.

    I plan try to fish wire on the bottom of drywall by the floor, i doubt it will work because of studs so, im gonna do is, remove (rotor powertool???) little piece of drywall where will be hidden by molding, and tape/mud the C-L wire then install molding. Then fish the wire up to the wall for mounted speakers and fxi a6 or lsi fxi I never done this before and i think it ll work. did it work for anyone? wish i have basment, itd be a lot easier! :(
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2009
    For your application, the Monoprice cables above will be fine.
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  • CaligulaPolk
    CaligulaPolk Posts: 1,650
    edited January 2009
    Face wrote: »
    For your application, the Monoprice cables above will be fine.

    ok thank you face
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  • jps
    jps Posts: 23
    edited January 2009
    I'm coming into this thread late, but I am experienced at hardwood flooring installation. I only have one comment: never use construction adhesive when laying 3/4 inch hardwood flooring. Period. In rare cases you might use it to ensure that a stair nose molding stays in place, but nowhere else. Glues and adhesives prevent the floor from expanding & contracting as humidity levels change. Hope this helps.

    Jim
  • John30_30
    John30_30 Posts: 1,024
    edited January 2009
    How about 8 gauge wire for future speaker upgrades? Sure dont want to remove floor modling everytime upgrade in few months or year.

    I plan try to fish wire on the bottom of drywall by the floor, i doubt it will work because of studs so, im gonna do is, remove (rotor powertool???) little piece of drywall where will be hidden by molding, and tape/mud the C-L wire then install molding. Then fish the wire up to the wall for mounted speakers and fxi a6 or lsi fxi I never done this before and i think it ll work. did it work for anyone? wish i have basment, itd be a lot easier! :(

    Are you talking about running the wire along the floor? Or down the wall?

    Using standard building dimensions, there's 1/2 inch gap between the bottom of the drywall and the slab or subfloor, if you use pre-cut stud lengths, bottom plate and a double top-plate.
    Pre-cuts are 92 1/2- or cut your own that length. Plates = 4 1/2. Ceiling drywall is another half inch. That leaves 96 1/2.
  • CaligulaPolk
    CaligulaPolk Posts: 1,650
    edited January 2009
    jps wrote: »
    I'm coming into this thread late, but I am experienced at hardwood flooring installation. I only have one comment: never use construction adhesive when laying 3/4 inch hardwood flooring. Period. In rare cases you might use it to ensure that a stair nose molding stays in place, but nowhere else. Glues and adhesives prevent the floor from expanding & contracting as humidity levels change. Hope this helps.

    Jim

    Dont plan to glue on floor. Thanks for the advice.
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  • Pablo
    Pablo Posts: 723
    edited January 2009
    14awg is more than you should ever need, unless you plan an upgrading everything to super high end stuff (when you start to spend 4 or 5 digits on you interconnects, then the best speaker cable is necessary). As far as length, keep in mind when you are running everything on the edges of all the walls, you will need more than you may think.

    (And monster is great if that is what they have. But if CC has some other stuff laying around at a good price, you can use that. I used the RCA stuff they had at home depot for everything but my fronts. Like someone else said, I couldn't justify the cost for higher end stuff for the surrounds and rears).
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited January 2009
    So this is the right cable i should buy for rti a or lsi? I need double check before i install it? Will it be ok behind wood molding on the floor to conceal? am going to wiring ready before or after installing floor so ill be ready when speakers arrive sometime soon in the nearest future.

    No. To clarify I am ripping out all the M* XP stuff and replacing with another type of cable. I think the Monoprice stuff is the way to go. I was considering that myself at least for my surround runs. I picked up a spool of some Liberty cable when Tweeter was closing up shop. So that is what I'll be using for my surrounds.

    The M* XP cable does not indicate its gauge on the package but its likely close to 16awg. HOWEVER, it has a 'patented' flux tube. Which, if you dissected the cable, is like a plastic wire run down the center of the copper strands. Take out that plastic tube and retwist the copper and you have a pretty darn small guage-probably like 18awg which is not good for any runs of length.
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  • CaligulaPolk
    CaligulaPolk Posts: 1,650
    edited January 2009
    mmadden28 wrote: »
    No. To clarify I am ripping out all the M* XP stuff and replacing with another type of cable. I think the Monoprice stuff is the way to go. I was considering that myself at least for my surround runs. I picked up a spool of some Liberty cable when Tweeter was closing up shop. So that is what I'll be using for my surrounds.

    The M* XP cable does not indicate its gauge on the package but its likely close to 16awg. HOWEVER, it has a 'patented' flux tube. Which, if you dissected the cable, is like a plastic wire run down the center of the copper strands. Take out that plastic tube and retwist the copper and you have a pretty darn small guage-probably like 18awg which is not good for any runs of length.

    ok that was best explaination about montsters.. Im going to see whats up with best buy and CC. then decide what iw ant to do.
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