Adcom vs. Emotiva ?
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Not necessarily. The "Name" brands are still priced high even used due to the "Name" factor.
So some would easily decide to go with something new/w warranty rather than used with none.
Yeah well, snob factor or not many of the "name" brands are damn fine gear certainly worth it in most cases.
In most cases you get what you pay for, exceptions as always. It just depends how far up the ladder you want to go.
Musical Fidelity
BAT
Revel
Pass Labs
Classe
Belles
MIT
VPI
Totem
etc, etc, etc......you get the idea
and hundreds more have the name and the sound/performance/design to back their higher cost.
The same people who bash Porsche are happy with their Chevy...........so let's just keep this in perspective.
Btw, Cathy this is not directed towards you..............just a general observation and statement
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a_mattison wrote: »Dude! Are we letting you know about our local get togethers? If not....we better start inviting you!!! Anyway... I'd love to hear that EMO at some point and you are welcome to come check out my rig when we both have a chance. I forgot that there was another local around here.
As I said in the pm, my work schedule is whacked, but I'd be more than happy to drop by with the amp some time. I'd love to hear what the amp can do with other gear. Maybe we can get the skeptic (H9:p) over as well.:D
As this is my first foray into separates, I can't give an honest comaprison to other amps, but I am digging the hell outta what it does for the LSi's...... -
I'll take my snob appeal amps that can handle .5 ohms all day over today's newest thing that clips from 4 ohm bookshelf speakers, thanks."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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I'll take my snob appeal amps that can handle .5 ohms all day over today's newest thing that clips from 4 ohm bookshelf speakers, thanks.
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There's a member here who has a Emo amp that clips with LSi9's."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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Interesting. I've pushed my 9's awfully hard, and it's clean and clear 100% of the time. Given that you can overdrive the pre until it clips any amp, I'm guessing it was operator error.
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"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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There's a member here who has a Emo amp that clips with LSi9's.
But others run them without issue. I'm pretty sure his is defective, and he should have sent it back.
From what I have read over at AVS, Emotiva does seem to have a higher than normal failure rate, often right out of the box. That has kept me from trying them so far. -
I just ordered one of their UPA-2....and I love it. Functions great, looks great, would buy again. Really pulls the lid off my fronts...the HK receiver just wasnt doing it for me...its good to have an outboard amp in the HT again.
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I've heard a couple of Adcoms in my time. They're OK.
But for less than 500 dollars I don't see how you can go wrong with the Emotiva. I'm not sure if the Adcoms are worth the extra price? Because I haven't actually heard an Emotiva...but the build/quality seems extra-ordinary for that price!
I noticed you have an Onkyo 806, and assume you'll be using that in conjunction as a Pre-amp, etc. How do you like the 806? That's a new model which ups the video processing some (not as much as the 876/906) but loses the Burr Brown DACs and EL transformer and other internal architecture that the Onkyo 805 shared with the 875/76.
Just curious?
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EDIT--Sorry, I didn't see that there was another page with other replies already-Oh well since I already typed it....
That was me
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Here's the thread:
Note, I'm a busy procrastinator.
I haven't sent the amp in to be checked out yet, so there is still the possibility that there just may be something wrong with it such as the protection triggers might be set too sensitive.)
Also, I have not been able to put it into protect mode since with normal listening (from classical to new age to metal)-Maybe they just don't like Carrie?
I've also bought a few more amps since then (Khartago, and recently some XPA-1s) but I haven't tried to reproduce the issue yet (although I will when I get my act together).
From any feedback I've received so far, this shouldn't happen with the XPA-2 and I don't recall seeing anybody else reporting the same kind of issue. Nobody has reported back to me that they tried to reproduce the results I got with the XPA-2 and the LSi9s. Feel free to try it though.
Not sure its a source clipping issue though. With the same source and volume, it won't go into protection with different higher impedance speakers.
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HT:Onkyo 805, Emotiva XPA-5, Mitsu 52" 1080p DLP / polkaudio RTi12, CSIa6, FXi3, uPro4K
2-chnl : Pio DV-46AV (SACD), Dodd ELP, Emotiva XPA-1s, XPA-2, Odyssey Khartago, LSi9, SDA-SRS 2 :cool:, SB Duet, MSB & Monarchy DACs, Yamaha PX3 TT, SAE Tuner...
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Ahh yes, I even posted in that thread. Thanks.
Like WilliamM2 said, he should have sent the amp in to be checked out. (I believe I even suggested it in the thread)
Regardless, that example is the exception, rather than the rule. -
From what I have read over at AVS, Emotiva does seem to have a higher than normal failure rate, often right out of the box. That has kept me from trying them so far.
I am pretty sure Emotiva will send a replacement amp right away and pay for return shipping on anything in the first 30 days. So that really shouldn't be a major deterrent.
And in case anybody's wondering why I didn't do that with my amp, I bought it used from a fellow polkie outside the 30 day period. I will have to pay shipping to Emo so they can check it out, but they said they will pay for the shipping back to me.____________________
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2-chnl : Pio DV-46AV (SACD), Dodd ELP, Emotiva XPA-1s, XPA-2, Odyssey Khartago, LSi9, SDA-SRS 2 :cool:, SB Duet, MSB & Monarchy DACs, Yamaha PX3 TT, SAE Tuner...
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I am pretty sure Emotiva will send a replacement amp right away and pay for return shipping on anything in the first 30 days. So that really shouldn't be a major deterrent.
Of course if it fails after the 30 day policy, like you, I would have to pay to ship an 80lb+ package back to them. That is a deterrent. May still try one some day. -
I'll take my snob appeal amps also. Know why? Because I like them. They work every time, do not get hot and they look cool.
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From what I have read over at AVS, Emotiva does seem to have a higher than normal failure rate, often right out of the box. That has kept me from trying them so far.
For some reason lately some people have experienced what they thought was a unit DOA, but it appears there is a static build up that does something to the amp. A hairdryer on the unit fixes that pretty quick.Pro-ject RM-9.1 w/ Grado Sonata 1 -> USP-1 -> RPA-1 -> Vienna Acoustics Mozart Grands -
I'll take my snob appeal amps also. Know why? Because I like them. They work every time, do not get hot and they look cool.
Gordon
I agree i also like snob appeal amps
just cause lol
But i also like Emotiva alot. They also DO NOT get hot. In the several emotiva amps i have owned, not one ever got hot. Heck they barely ever get warm. I rocked out for a couple hours last night and the RPA-1 was barely warm, but its also class H which runs cool, but my XPA-3 doesnt get hot ever. I also think the Emotiva amps look cool, i think alot of people like the look of their amps.
One amp i like the look of alot is the Odyssey Stratos. Pretty slick IMO. Pro-ject RM-9.1 w/ Grado Sonata 1 -> USP-1 -> RPA-1 -> Vienna Acoustics Mozart Grands -
Cnh,
I don't want to hijack this thread or anything and forgive me if I am. I also own an Onkyo 806 and was using it as a preamp. It works very well for a preamp and is a nice reciever. It has a real nice sound to it. You can find some pretty good deals on them out there. I have seen them going for as low as $650 new in the box. At that price, they are well worth it and are a great bang for the buck reciever.
There are a few small glitches with the 806 though that I have encountered. It doesn't pass true black through HDMI. Do a search here on the board about blue lines or blobs with black on the 806, or it not passing true black through and you will see mine, and other persons issues with this. It's not bad and is certainly not a show stopper, it's just a little annoying. Another issue I've had with my 806 is it takes a while to recognize DTS-Master audio signals when bitstreamed from my Blu Ray player. Often the Blu Ray would play for a good 30 seconds or so before the reciever would recognize the signal and output the video to the monitor and play the audio to the reciever. Another thing is it has no dedicated trigger outs for turning on amps that may be added to the system. It does have triggers for the second zone, but you have to turn on the zone 2 on the remote to trigger the amp(s) to turn on. Again this is not a show stopper, but it is annoying.
I have replaced my 806 in my main system with a Denon 2809 and moved the Onkyo in my bedroom to replace a Yamaha V-661. Overall I am not having any issues with the Denon and like it better overall. Again, the Denon is working with no glitches. It's much harder to set up then the Onkyo, and the Onkyo's OSD is light years ahead of the Denon's, but the Denon is superior to me in the two areas that count; build quality and sound quality. The sound quality is a personal thing. I personally just think the Denon sounds better, but others may not. I can't deny the quality issues though.
My verdict is this, if you can find the 806 for a good price, it's a solid reciever/preamp overall with a few small glitches that I would have no problems recommending to people. If I was paying the full retail for the 806 however, I would rather pay an extra $100 and go with the Denon, or another comprable reciever. Just my dos pesos.
Steve
