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doggie750
doggie750 Posts: 1,160
edited January 2009 in The Clubhouse
Polks,
Rice cooker/microwave/can opener/toaster oven on an eight socket extension safe? :confused:

I assume it's ok, not much load here.

Friend of mine got his house caught on fire due to an overload circuit in the kitchen just checking my current set up right now...
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited January 2009
    Do you use more than one of them at once?

    If yes, then technically the answer is NO.

    I don't have my code references handy, but I think it's a residential code violation in most places.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited January 2009
    I'd never have a toaster and microwave on the same circuit, unless I never used them both at the same time (and no matter how much you say you won't.... some day you will).
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,987
    edited January 2009
    Absolutely not a good idea.
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  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited January 2009
    A microwave should ideally be on it's OWN circuit.
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  • Pauly
    Pauly Posts: 4,519
    edited January 2009
    i wouldnt risk it.
    Life without music would
  • NotaSuv
    NotaSuv Posts: 3,849
    edited January 2009
    well if you have a insurance policy for 2-4 times the worth of the homes contents then go for it :)

    otherwise:
    micros should always have their own circuit...and your set-up is not safe
  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited January 2009
    Are we talking about an installed microwave or a countertop microwave. I'd imagine that makes a difference. If I'm not mistaken, other than the built-in stuff (oven, stove, fridge, dishwasher, etc) I'm pretty sure the outlets around my kitchen are on the same circuit. And in that case my countertop Microwave plugs into the same circuit as my toaster, mixer, Kuerig, etc. (for some reason the previous owners never opted to have a Microwave built-in-not even a place to put one. The stove is in an island-house is only about 10 years old)

    On one of the outlets, I have one of those plug in expanders thingeys that makes 6 outlets out of two. Its a direct plug in thingey. I have the mixer, coffee maker and toaster oven connected to that. Of those, only the toaster over and coffee maker might ever be on at one time.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited January 2009
    Just because you do it doesn't mean it's a good idea ....
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited January 2009
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    Just because you do it doesn't mean it's a good idea ....

    What other choice does one have when only one circuit is provided for a kitchen? Dedicating a circuit for a Microwave has to be only for the built-in options-how would the electrician know in advance where a counter top microwave will be placed or moved to inthe furture?

    And there can't be anything wrong with using the outlet splitter thing if your only using two devices at once. The outlet supports two devices natively.

    If the splitter thingey is UL listed why can't it be used?
    No?
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited January 2009
    doggie750 wrote: »
    Polks,
    Rice cooker/microwave/can opener/toaster oven on an eight socket extension safe? :confused:

    Only if you add in your wife's hair dryer... :p
  • sophie
    sophie Posts: 511
    edited January 2009
    not sure how his house caught on fire from an overloaded circuit. the breaker should have tripped before anything else.

    if you are using an outlet splitter then read what it is rated for and stay under that. the one sitting by my desk is 15A or 1800W. so look up the power usage on your toaster oven, rice cooker, and microwave. if they are over 1800W combined i would move something or never use them all at the same time.

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  • rayslifecycle
    rayslifecycle Posts: 511
    edited January 2009
    Microwaves ruin food the way i-pods ruin music

    sorry -feelin' a little ornery here and I hate microwaves

    So long as your combined current usage is less then the circuit breakers max you are fine regardless of the number of items plugged in.

    Use a surge protector for all countertop appliances and switch it off when not using the kitchen :)
  • vlam
    vlam Posts: 282
    edited January 2009
    if you are using an outlet splitter then read what it is rated for and stay under that. the one sitting by my desk is 15A or 1800W. so look up the power usage on your toaster oven, rice cooker, and microwave. if they are over 1800W combined i would move something or never use them all at the same time.

    That's the general rule I use with those powerstrip. I assume that's what doggie750 is asking about. All the load on the powerstrip. Powerstrip will trip when it has an overload. I didn't realize this when I had 1 powerstrip running about 8 300watts heater for my fish tanks and I lost power all off a sudden.

    As for using the same outlet for a toaster and a regular microwave on the same outlet. That should not be an issue as long as it's plug in directly. A lot of high wattage/amp appliances will state that you shouldn't use an extension or powerstrip.

    If the electrical is wired correctly in the home, your breaker will trip if too many high current applicances is in use at the same time on the same circuit. If you have a few outlet in the kitchen, it's most likely that they are all on the same circuit. Dishwasher, garbage disposal unit and stove are almost always on their own circuit. Refrigerator, microwave are sometime separate as well.

    For example, I can usually trip the power in my living room when the TV, stereo is on and I turn on my Dyson (this this draws major amp).

    Also: It's usually a good idea to put GFI on all wall outlet in kitchen and bathroom. Code is not that strict but I do it just to be safe and it's something one can DIY
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  • sophie
    sophie Posts: 511
    edited January 2009
    vlam wrote: »

    Also: It's usually a good idea to put GFI on all wall outlet in kitchen and bathroom. Code is not that strict but I do it just to be safe and it's something one can DIY

    code here is gfci on the breaker OR gfci an the first outlet in the circuit. the first outlet protects all other outlets wired AFTER it.

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