SDA 1B realwood?

Hobbyguy
Hobbyguy Posts: 317
edited January 2009 in Vintage Speakers
Just joined this club and am amazed at the cumulative knowledge of its members! In college I always wanted a pair of polk speakers but could never afford them. I recently purchased a pair of SDA 1B speakers and was told that there are very few of these that are made of real wood. Does anybody know if this is true?
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,794
    edited January 2009
    YEP... you won't find solid wood 1B's unless they're one of the VERY rare one offs. Remove one of the drivers and check for Fibre board or solid wood front panels around the cutouts.
  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited January 2009
    Hobbyguy wrote: »
    Just joined this club and am amazed at the cumulative knowledge of its members! In college I always wanted a pair of polk speakers but could never afford them. I recently purchased a pair of SDA 1B speakers and was told that there are very few of these that are made of real wood. Does anybody know if this is true?

    Just a guess but I'd say real wood veneer laminated to particle board, not solid wood.
    Drew
  • BobMcG
    BobMcG Posts: 1,585
    edited January 2009
    You can find them both ways out there as the SDA-1Bs were offered with "Grade"-walnut or rosewood-vinyl cabinets or with real wood finished cabinets of oiled walnut or oak at a higher cost.

    (Whereas the 1Cs were offered with real wood finished cabinets of oiled walnut or oak and black studio versions of ash available at a lower cost.)
  • Hobbyguy
    Hobbyguy Posts: 317
    edited January 2009
    Thanks all! they should arrive in 1 - 2 weeks. Updated info is that they are oak veneer. It will be interesting to see if it is really oak veneer or if they are oak plywood. I personally prefer the plywood but don't know which material is better for speakers.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,744
    edited January 2009
    All SDA's with a wood exterior are wood veneer over MDF. The vinyl cabinets are over MDF as well. Polk did not use veneered plywood or solid wood for the cabinets. The front panel (bezel) is black laminated MDF, never solid wood.
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited January 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    All SDA's with a wood exterior are wood veneer over MDF. The vinyl cabinets are over MDF as well. Polk did not use veneered plywood or solid wood for the cabinets. The front panel (bezel) is black laminated MDF, never solid wood.

    How do you know?
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,744
    edited January 2009
    I own a three pair of SDA's and have seen most of the others. They all use the same materials. The only possible exception would be the end caps on the SDA SRS, which are glued up solid wood boards, which turned out to be not such a good idea. However, they are not really part of the actual cabinet, they just attach to the MDF case.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited January 2009
    I agree.
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited January 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    I own a three pair of SDA's and have seen most of the others. They all use the same materials. The only possible exception would be the end caps on the SDA SRS, which are glued up solid wood boards, which turned out to be not such a good idea. However, they are not really part of the actual cabinet, they just attach to the MDF case.

    Jesse
    Thanks for the answer. The reason I was wondering is because the caps on my SRSII's look like real solid wood.
    Drew
  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,133
    edited January 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    I own a three pair of SDA's and have seen most of the others. They all use the same materials. The only possible exception would be the end caps on the SDA SRS, which are glued up solid wood boards, which turned out to be not such a good idea. However, they are not really part of the actual cabinet, they just attach to the MDF case.

    The caps on my SDA 2B "Standard Version" seem to be real wood.
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited January 2009
    You are both correct in that the caps are solid wood, but the cabinets were not.
  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,133
    edited January 2009
    zingo wrote: »
    You are both correct in that the caps are solid wood, but the cabinets were not.

    Thanks zingo!:)
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,744
    edited January 2009
    Both the 2B and SRS 2 end caps are veneer over MDF.

    If you don't see end grain on the edges of your caps and joint lines, they are veneer over MDF.

    Again, the only end caps that are solid wood (glued up boards) are the earlier versions of the SDA SRS.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited January 2009
  • awe-d-o-file
    awe-d-o-file Posts: 146
    edited January 2009
    I have SDA-1's with Oak veneer. SO much nicer than the vinyl crap. I also put brown grill cloth on them. I always hated black cloth on a brown wood toned speaker.


    ET

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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited January 2009
    My 1987 SDA 2B's are walnut veneer on the tops and edges, but the front piece on each base is a piece of real 3/4" walnut. My 1986 SDA SRS 2's are glued up solid oak.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,744
    edited January 2009
    Interesting.
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  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited January 2009
    My 1987 SDA 2B's are walnut veneer on the tops and edges, but the front piece on each base is a piece of real 3/4" walnut. My 1986 SDA SRS 2's are glued up solid oak.

    Yeah, pretty certain my 2B's have the same 3/4" pieces of walnut on the base.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,213
    edited January 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    I own a three pair of SDA's and have seen most of the others. They all use the same materials. The only possible exception would be the end caps on the SDA SRS, which are glued up solid wood boards, which turned out to be not such a good idea. However, they are not really part of the actual cabinet, they just attach to the MDF case.

    To add to this............my 1C end caps are particle board with veneer. I know because one of the bottoms got damp and the particle board swelled like a fat chick eating Cheetos and the bottom veneer is no longer flush with the front edge. It's slight but noticable if you look closely.

    IIRC, there are some exceptions but I believe any real wood end caps are on early runs of SDA's and are somewhat rare outside of the original SRS's.

    H9
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited January 2009
    I know because one of the bottoms got damp and the particle board swelled like a fat chick eating Cheetos and the bottom veneer is no longer flush with the front edge. It's slight but noticable if you look closely.

    Heiney
    Excellent description but, no pun intended, not a pretty sight.
  • Hobbyguy
    Hobbyguy Posts: 317
    edited January 2009
    OK you sure know your SDAs....Mine arrived and sure enough they are a GEORGEOUS honey oak veneer over MDF. The bezel is black MDF.