what 5Hz looks and feels like

SlowcarIX

F-irene scene from black hawk down
its a trippy feel...walls flexing, compression pulse in the chest...:eek:

wingnut4772

HA! That's the way to do it. Gotta love them Hsus.

lightman1

....insanity prevails...


and I like it..

mmadden28

I couldn't feel it :(

I want to see vid of the walls flexing

Pauly

nice

XJRGUY

Amazing!

That woofer excursion is mesmerizing!
:eek:

goingganzo

nice. i will have to put some vids up of my sub moveing the walls in the theater. but that is nice

SlowcarIX

goingganzo wrote: »

nice. i will have to put some vids up of my sub moveing the walls in the theater. but that is nice

nice!

what do you drive the 18s with?

Sherardp

Im going to see how my dual pb12/plus2's measure up. Nice subs Slow/Wing. You guys have killer setups, the only thing missing is the front PJ and screen.

wingnut4772

Just out of curiosity, how dod you come to arrive at placing them all up front? I have mine boxing me in 2 in the front 2 to the rear at the sides - mostly due to room issues. Have you tried them in another configuration?

leroyjr1

With all the subs you have owned could you put them in order performance wise 1-5 and why you put them in that order.

Thanks

Sherardp

leroyjr1 wrote: »

With all the subs you have owned could you put them in order performance wise 1-5 and why you put them in that order.

Thanks

Excellent idea, it may help some forum members here when buying subs. He's been through allot of the big boy subs. Not sure if he's had any SVS subs in there or not.

goingganzo

curentley my amp is broken. i was using a samson s1000 but i am looking at a crown 2000.

SlowcarIX

goingganzo wrote: »

curentley my amp is broken. i was using a samson s1000 but i am looking at a crown 2000.

theres a lot of ppl there using the ep2500 to drive their subs: http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/EP2500.aspx

they are very resonably priced...

SlowcarIX

Sherardp wrote: »

Excellent idea, it may help some forum members here when buying subs. He's been through allot of the big boy subs. Not sure if he's had any SVS subs in there or not.

a good sub with bad placement can make it sound bad...so i dont know how even to start rating comparing what i had...the few of them i had were go gigantic, i believe if i can sqeeze them between my mains, they would sound as good.

there few things i learnt from this all:
-there is no replacement for displacement, you want bass, you got to have enough subwoofer/surface area to move the air
-best way to know if you like a sub, take it home and try it out with your material/soundtrack, placement in your listening area and att he volume level you like. if you like it...keep it or else return it. Reviews are just reviews, they sound good in their room, maybe not yours.

not tried svs..

SlowcarIX

leroyjr1 wrote: »

With all the subs you have owned could you put them in order performance wise 1-5 and why you put them in that order.

Thanks

performance is closely tied to placement....

SlowcarIX

wingnut4772 wrote: »

Just out of curiosity, how dod you come to arrive at placing them all up front? I have mine boxing me in 2 in the front 2 to the rear at the sides - mostly due to room issues. Have you tried them in another configuration?

the only practical place i can put the subs is the frontstage or behind the couch. i have 2 doorway in the backwall corner so i'm limited interms of placement. i did try several impractical placements, they did not give me the same impact as lining up the subs in a row. the line array seems to intensify the bass effect...
i had setup the 4 subs initially behind the couch - the intense bass assault from the back was NOT fun!



with them in the frontstage, they reinforce the soundstage from the LCR and creates a "you are there" feel.

goingganzo

i have enough bass that if i place them in my seccond floor bedroom they will still rock the theater. with the simsi ran and speaking of the bulder of the subs. i can hit 120db@5hz

SlowcarIX

120dB@5Hz subsonic is serious bass! mind sharing some pics of your setup? thx!

mmadden28

goingganzo wrote: »

i have enough bass that if i place them in my seccond floor bedroom they will still rock the theater. with the simsi ran and speaking of the bulder of the subs. i can hit 120db@5hz

Now that would be cool. Kinda like an in-wall sub. Put the 4 subs upstairs, cut holes in the floor/ceiling. Install some grates like they have in older homes that used to get heated by way of wood burning stoves (you know some decorative iron-but immune to resonance).

mmadden28

SlowcarIX wrote: »

the only practical place i can put the subs is the frontstage or behind the couch. i have 2 doorway in the backwall corner so i'm limited interms of placement. i did try several impractical placements, they did not give me the same impact as lining up the subs in a row. the line array seems to intensify the bass effect...
i had setup the 4 subs initially behind the couch - the intense bass assault from the back was NOT fun!



with them in the frontstage, they reinforce the soundstage from the LCR and creates a "you are there" feel.

I don't know if its true or not, but I read somewhere that although a sub is generally non-directional (below ~100Hz), distance is also a factor in performance. Something about the low frequency waveform needs distance (time) to work its magic, and if its too close to the listening position, its not going to work right.

Of course I can certainly see your point there being blasted in the back would be like a massaging couch-too distracting-I've experienced the distraction with just one sub behind the couch.

goingganzo

here is alink to my cite bot i do not have finished pics
http://www.geocities.com/theirishgonzo/sono.html

SlowcarIX

mmadden28 wrote: »

I don't know if its true or not, but I read somewhere that although a sub is generally non-directional (below ~100Hz), distance is also a factor in performance. Something about the low frequency waveform needs distance (time) to work its magic, and if its too close to the listening position, its not going to work right.

Of course I can certainly see your point there being blasted in the back would be like a massaging couch-too distracting-I've experienced the distraction with just one sub behind the couch.

placing the subs in the frontstage improved the soundstage...i dont know, maybe its easier for Audyssey to figure out how to unite all the speakers or someting...

SlowcarIX

goingganzo wrote: »

here is alink to my cite bot i do not have finished pics
http://www.geocities.com/theirishgonzo/sono.html

:eek: thats some serious subwoofers there!

comfortablycurt

Damn...so I take it your system has a pretty solid low end huh?

Nice setup...Someday I hope I can feel 5 hz in my living room.