Rtia9 made me want to cry
Had to get out the house for a while and went to Fry's. What a wonderful place to be. I had the audio room all to myself and they had a Janet Jackson dvd in the player hooked up to a Onkyo Tx-NR905 (which was "on sale" for about 2200) so since I have a onkyo I stood and gave these speakers and others a good listen. I ran through a full line from rtia3 to the rtia9.
First let me say that the Janet Jackson dvd was of all her videos and since I am familiar with all the songs it made for good reference material.
Since I own some rti10's I first wanted to hear the rti7's. They were good and on par with my 10's. The music was on point and it was very clear. I also have to add that the center channels did not seem to work or was very low. Don't know why? I was also able to fool with the controls of the onkyo and set it to dolby digital II music just like home for good reference.
I then switched to the bookshelfs. The rtia1's kicked butt, in fact I think for the money one could not do better. I would venture to say that one could pass with them as fronts and backs and be very happy. More so I was impressed with the fxi's that they had up high on the back wall of the room. They helped me find the sweet spot in the middle to take in the music. Those fxi's made all the difference as the music blended with ease and pitch.
I moved on to the rtia3's and was disappointed. I say this because I could not tell the difference between the two that would justify the more expensive purchase. They are still great speakers but did not stand out.
Then I switched to the lsi series. Knowing that they are 4 ohm being driven by an 8 ohm reciever (could be switched to 6oms) they were just plain bad. I will say again that this would be expected by such a set up.
But when I put the rtia9's on...wow...i mean wow! I should have just left the room. Things were so clear and crisp. Paired with the fxi's it was a done deal. I felt I was next to Janet and that she was only singing to me.
This brings up a couple of question. First how good of a reciever is the txnr-905? I think for my system that I need to just bite it and buy a more expensive reciever. I think i'll have to look at the onkyo 700 series or better. Second I did not know that the rtia9's had 2 5 and 1/4 midrange. The rti'1 only give you 1 5 and 1/4 midrange....seems as if there should be a rtia2 with the 2 5 and 1/4 midrange. My rti10's of 1 6 and 1/2 midrage. Is this what made the huge difference? So the bigger the midrange the less you get? I don't think the 3 7 inch subwoofers made a difference. Am I wrong in my observation?
If I were to ever make a jump ( which I promised myself never again ) it would be to the rtia9's with the fxia6's (but I got fxi3's)...I'll keep my center.
First let me say that the Janet Jackson dvd was of all her videos and since I am familiar with all the songs it made for good reference material.
Since I own some rti10's I first wanted to hear the rti7's. They were good and on par with my 10's. The music was on point and it was very clear. I also have to add that the center channels did not seem to work or was very low. Don't know why? I was also able to fool with the controls of the onkyo and set it to dolby digital II music just like home for good reference.
I then switched to the bookshelfs. The rtia1's kicked butt, in fact I think for the money one could not do better. I would venture to say that one could pass with them as fronts and backs and be very happy. More so I was impressed with the fxi's that they had up high on the back wall of the room. They helped me find the sweet spot in the middle to take in the music. Those fxi's made all the difference as the music blended with ease and pitch.
I moved on to the rtia3's and was disappointed. I say this because I could not tell the difference between the two that would justify the more expensive purchase. They are still great speakers but did not stand out.
Then I switched to the lsi series. Knowing that they are 4 ohm being driven by an 8 ohm reciever (could be switched to 6oms) they were just plain bad. I will say again that this would be expected by such a set up.
But when I put the rtia9's on...wow...i mean wow! I should have just left the room. Things were so clear and crisp. Paired with the fxi's it was a done deal. I felt I was next to Janet and that she was only singing to me.
This brings up a couple of question. First how good of a reciever is the txnr-905? I think for my system that I need to just bite it and buy a more expensive reciever. I think i'll have to look at the onkyo 700 series or better. Second I did not know that the rtia9's had 2 5 and 1/4 midrange. The rti'1 only give you 1 5 and 1/4 midrange....seems as if there should be a rtia2 with the 2 5 and 1/4 midrange. My rti10's of 1 6 and 1/2 midrage. Is this what made the huge difference? So the bigger the midrange the less you get? I don't think the 3 7 inch subwoofers made a difference. Am I wrong in my observation?
If I were to ever make a jump ( which I promised myself never again ) it would be to the rtia9's with the fxia6's (but I got fxi3's)...I'll keep my center.
Retired Onkyo 520 (returned broken HK 247)
Now a Pioneer 1018
CSi3
2- RTI10's
2- R50's
2- Fxi3's
Onkyo 250W Sub
Polk psw-10
"Inch by inch lifes a cinch, yard by yard life is hard"
Now a Pioneer 1018
CSi3
2- RTI10's
2- R50's
2- Fxi3's
Onkyo 250W Sub
Polk psw-10
"Inch by inch lifes a cinch, yard by yard life is hard"
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The rti a9 paired with the fxi a6's is a great sounding combo.
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anonymouse wrote: »Get a good amp. I believe your HK247 has pre-outs. With proper amplification your 10's will sing.
+1, a friend has 10s and when he added external AMPS it was like day and night improvement.Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
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+1, a friend has 10s and when he added external AMPS it was like day and night improvement.
+2, forget the receiver and get the amp. Ask cfrizz,she'll give you good advice. -
I regret reading this thread.
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I went to the rti a3's from the a1's and thought it made a big difference. It had a fuller sound and better low end bass.
Also for music I thought the RTI A3's did a better job than the FXI A6's did, but the FXI A6's won me over during movie watching. -
But when I put the rtia9's on...wow...i mean wow! I should have just left the room. Things were so clear and crisp. Paired with the fxi's it was a done deal. I felt I was next to Janet and that she was only singing to me.
This brings up a couple of question. First how good of a reciever is the txnr-905? I think for my system that I need to just bite it and buy a more expensive reciever.
If I were to ever make a jump ( which I promised myself never again ) it would be to the rtia9's with the fxia6's (but I got fxi3's)...I'll keep my center.
I think you answered your own question. You would be getting better performance the higher up the audio chain you go. More power means better control of the drivers which will yield better sound. There are exceptions but for the most part that is the rule I have come to find.
If you liked what you heard then get that otherwise you might end up with buyers remorse.
Dave -
Keep your Fxi3s, not allot data coming through on your rears to make a huge difference, unless youre into multichannel music perhaps. As others have said, run an external amp to those 10s and you will notice huge improvement.Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!
Home Theater Pics in the Showcase :cool:
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Thanks Daboyz.
Kchill, I would tell you to get an ext 5 channel amp, but before you can do that you have to either get a receiver with preouts or go straight to a prepro/amp combo.
You would get more bang for your buck buying used from audiogon. Didn't someone on here have an Onkyo receiver for sale?
No receiver will match the power of separate amplification so make sure you get a receiver with preouts!+2, forget the receiver and get the amp. Ask cfrizz,she'll give you good advice.Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
pssst.!
Ms. Frizz...you forgot the 200wpc thingy !!
Uh-humm...
Yeah, what they said !
More power !
And get the a9`s....they kick butt !!Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
Parasound HCA-3500
Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
Jolida JD-100 CDP
Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
SVS PC-Ultra Sub
AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
PS Audio Plus Power Cords
Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)
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Pssst. Bear, I didn't forget, but right now talking about a 200wpc amp is kinda putting the cart before the horse. He needs a receiver with preouts first, THEN I'll talk to him about the 200wpc amp!;):Dpssst.!
Ms. Frizz...you forgot the 200wpc thingy !!
Uh-humm...
Yeah, what they said !
More power !
And get the a9`s....they kick butt !!Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
Well Sal, while my favorite gear in sheer musicality is Rotel, they are so far behind the times that it is not even funny. If you live without all the latest bells and whistles, I don't think you would be disappointed.
Otherwise, check out Outlaw, I love my Sunfire combo. I also like Parasound gear, but I don't know how up to date their prepros are either.
Maybe a few others will have suggestions. Ask Mantis since he works in the business.Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
Well Sal, while my favorite gear in sheer musicality is Rotel, they are so far behind the times that it is not even funny. If you live without all the latest bells and whistles, I don't think you would be disappointed.
Otherwise, check out Outlaw, I love my Sunfire combo. I also like Parasound gear, but I don't know how up to date their prepros are either.
Maybe a few others will have suggestions. Ask Mantis since he works in the business.
I also was looking for a new pre to replace my Onkyo and have become a Rotel fan. Only thing is there pre's sound nice but are very expensive and don't decode any of the latest hd formats. -
Yup, outstanding sound and quality, but 3 years or more behind everyone else and more expensive for that practically obsolete product.I also was looking for a new pre to replace my Onkyo and have become a Rotel fan. Only thing is there pre's sound nice but are very expensive and don't decode any of the latest hd formats.Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
