Minor eBay rant

zeppage2

I have a Mac 1900 and am searching craigslist and eBay for the wooden cabinet.

I find an eBay auction for said cabinet and offer a BIN which is summarily rejected.

Nevertheless I win the auction, and ask the seller if I can do a local pick up. (I had already asked the seller this during the auction but was ignored.)

The seller now ignores three PM's, and when I check my email account I notice he had sent the payment info after two of my emails...

So, WTF, I paypal him the money...:(

I would have preferred had he merely responded.

Well I feel better now!:)

Mark

thsmith

Assuming you get the product and are happy with it I would live feedback stating what you experienced.

eloplayspolo

i sell stuff on ebay for a living. from a seller's stand point, he made the right move, why should he say no to u if you arent going to buy it if he does. he was prob hoping that u would just bid it up and someone else would bid more. those cabinets are easy to find if you dont get it.

seeclear

eloplayspolo wrote: »

i sell stuff on ebay for a living. from a seller's stand point, he made the right move, why should he say no to u if you arent going to buy it if he does.

How about because you want to be straightforward and have happy customers? Is it too much to ask for him to answer a simple question?

thsmith

I sell stuff on ebay too but not for a living. My approach would be to answer honestly and move on. Being transparent up front avoids a lot of confusion and frustration.

sucks2beme

You may be better off NOT to have met the guy. There's too many
guys on EBAY selling audio items that aren't all that great.
It's nothing like meeting a fellow Polkie. The "No" answer would of
been better than "no answer". I never understood ignoring EMails,
but there's a lot of sellers that only send amount due, and shipping
info. If they send it and pack it well, just move on. It's business as
usual on EBAY. Move product and move on.
I ask a lot of sellers on EBAY that question just to help weed out
scammers. A guy with 0 feedback and expensive gear for sale on
EBAY, you ask the question to help feel out if he's real or just
a fake. Even a no answer show's he's getting EMAIL from EBAY.

dragon1952

If it's a high volume seller their responses are often automated and they don't even check questions or emails as it would be too time consuming.

zeppage2

Well, he now emails me with pickup info after I paypal him- including $20 shipping.
He included his phone # so I will call him Sat morn...

BTW: seller rating 117 with 99.2%

Thanks for all the input!

Mark

schwarcw

thsmith wrote: »

Assuming you get the product and are happy with it I would live feedback stating what you experienced.

+1 Give Honest, but detailed feedback, MAKE SURE THAT THE Seller DOESN'T GET FIVE STARS rating if he was non responsive. Sellers need to maintain a certain level of performance, or get banned from eBay. If the seller elects not to respond to customer questions, and communicate in an open manner about the conditions of sale. Provide approprate feedback. eBay is working hard to rid their system of sellers who do not stand behind their products and support their customers. Second class eBayers and borderline scammers will become a think of the past if buyers start using the new feedback system IN EARNEST. The seller is almost always right. eBay will trace the patterns of questionable selling tactics, and ban the amatuer sellers. But we must give HONEST but APPROPRIATE feedback. Don't take **** from the seller that once the item is shipped, it's out of their hands. This is ****, read the eBay policy. If you bought a product from Amazon and it was damaged, would you file a claim with the Amazon Shipper and absolve Amazon for any responsibility???? I didn't think so. Don't stand for this from any eBay seller. eBay and PayPal will support you everytime. PayPal is your friend, back it with an American Express Black and you will always get your money back. PayPal will get it from the seller, you won't have to deal with him except supple the transaction information. The days of the eBay jackass seller are numbered. eBay don't want them. They are more trouble then they are worth.

schwarcw

eloplayspolo wrote: »

i sell stuff on ebay for a living. from a seller's stand point, he made the right move, why should he say no to u if you arent going to buy it if he does. he was prob hoping that u would just bid it up and someone else would bid more. those cabinets are easy to find if you dont get it.

Refusng the BIN is fine. Not answering customer questions supplied within the auction period, will earn you demerits or whatever eBay uses. Continue to do this in a pattern and eBay will suspend your selling rights. Bottom line, treat people like you want to be treated. If not, go do your business on Craigslist with the rest of the crooks.

eloplayspolo

i just list the stuff and follow directions. Clearly in auctions we have it will say Local pick up is welcome... on that item - if it doesnt say it and the lister doesnt say that they offer it in their post, then they dont have to. i know its a courtesy thing..... but from a business stand point u gotta understand some things. if someone asks about pick up. we answer... but i was just letting u know what someone else may be thinking.

SBrown712

Some of you sellers may disagree but I think the 'new' feedback system is a joke. As a buyer the last two transactions I've had on e-bay have been a joke. One went to paypal and I was able to finally get my money back. I think it was as much because I was persistent as much as anything.
The other the seller didn't even have the item he had listed. He admitted that to me. I asked for a refund and he stopped responding to my emails. I filed a dispute with paypal, after three weeks, and the next day I get shipping info. That info was the usual notice that UPS had been notified. After four days the shipping status changes. I did finally get the package. It seems that part of the delay was that they had to remove the serial numbers.
Anyway, the thing about e-bay that pissed me off the most of that you can no longer leave negative feedback so that guy can continue to do that to others.

F1nut

You are confused. The buyer can leave negative feedback, the seller cannot.

snow

F1nut wrote: »

You are confused. The buyer can leave negative feedback, the seller cannot.

Agreed but I have seen some pretty nasty positives by the seller I sold a stack of DBX gear a few months ago that had been sitting in storage for years one of the items was a DBX 4BX It was missing the little plastic feet along with all the other DBX gear because they all had been rack mounted but it had been so many years that I had forgotten that the feet had been removed from these items, anyways when thebuyer received his item he asked me about the feet I responded that I didnt have the feet but if he sent me a pic of what the feet looked like I would send him some feet, he aggreed a couple weeks go by no response from the buyer than an email asking me to refund him $10.00 then he would leave me positive feedback and if I dont he will leave me negative feedback. I tell him to kiss my oversize **** and that I could care less whether he leaves me positive negative neutral or no feedback at all. The sad thing thing about all this is that I as a seller am now more or less at the mercy of idiots like this because I cant leave a negative feedback in return except disguised as a positive.



REGARDS SNOW

Mike Reeter

My son recently purchased a game from an e-bay seller...Get an e-mail stating they can not get thier money or ship until we leave Positive Feedback.

Checked pay-pal,and sure enough they are paid at the moment of transaction...He bought this item on 12/16...no ship conformation,no goods as of yet.

What a bunch of Dick Heads...I just don't understand how some people sleep at night,knowing they are effing everyone that walks.

BTW,seller "had" 100% feedback.

Motzart

I have bought and sold on ebay for 10yrs now and have had very little trouble.

Only 2 things stand out....
Once I bought a Dewalt cordless Hammer Drill from a guy and accidentally clicked 2x.
Guy gave me all kindsa crap that I owed him for 2....after I explained my error.
Finally agreed to disagree and I got nothing from him and got my $$ back.

Just recently when I bought my Sony SACD Player....did a BIN and got the 15% PayPal rebate.
I paid immediately as I always do.....Guy didn't send it for a whole freakin week.
I finally got it but took forever....2 weeks.
It is like new and works 100% as He said but just the idea.

No problems I can think of with buyers.

That's about it after 10yrs so I can't complain much.

SBrown712

Sorry but I am not confused. When I tried to leave negative feedback it would not let me complete the process. I even went into the e-bay forums and found that there were a lot of people posting that they couldn't leave negative feedback either. This was a couple of months ago and I know that e-bay was changing the feedback system so maybe it has changed since then. Believe me, I tried every way possible to do it and it would not allow me to leave negative feedback.

F1nut

From eBay.

When we removed sellers' ability to leave buyers negative or neutral Feedback,put in place new policies and tools, and increased the number of reasons for removing negative and neutral Feedback in Unpaid Item cases. These changes were intended to help sellers better manage their bidders and buyers and ensure that policy violators are reported and held accountable

Sellers are not permitted to include in their listings or terms of sale any conditions that limit or restrict the buyer from leaving feedback.

Feedback comments become a permanent part of a seller’s record. If you are a buyer, contact your seller to try to resolve any issues before leaving neutral or negative Feedback. Please make sure that your comments are fair, based in fact, and relate to the specific transaction for which you received the Feedback request.

The Fine Print
Only registered members can leave Feedback. Buyers must wait at least seven days before leaving a negative or neutral Feedback for a PowerSeller who has been registered on eBay for at least 12 months.

SBrown712

Ok, I stand corrected. When you try to leave negative feedback, on the last page there are three option boxes that have to be checked. I was only checking two as I felt the third didn't apply to me. Obviously this isn't made clear to those trying to leave negative feedback.

Motzart

I have seen several PPL I wanted to buy something from that had like 100+ Negs.
How in the hell are they still on ebay?
If anyone has over 2 or 3 negs in the past month I won't buy a thing from them.
I can't understand why ebay won't keep this system in place?
Why backup the bad sellers and buyers.....that's just plain stupid IMHO.
Nobody wants to get screwed....duhhhh.

F1nut

Motzart wrote: »

I have seen several PPL I wanted to buy something from that had like 100+ Negs.

How many positives did they have? What was the overall percentage? I mean, if someone has 20,000 positives and 100 negatives, their overall percentage is pretty damn good.

I can't understand why ebay won't keep this system in place?

Huh? It is in place.

zeppage2

I picked up the cabinet yesterday. The seller reimbursed the $20 shipping on the spot.

The unknown here was the seller speaks English as a second language.
Who would have known? His eBay auctions don't reflect this...

But his detailed seller feedback reveals that he doesn't respond to emails...my bad for not probing more deeply.

regards, Mark