Recording Industry Association of America gives up.
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Woot!"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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Now we just need the MPAA to drop its heat.
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Hope they get a class action suit against them.
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The RIAA is just putting the ISP on the hook more, so if the RIAA alerts the ISP, and the ISP doesn't stop it, the RIAA can go after the ISP which has deeper pockets.
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The RIAA is just putting the ISP on the hook more, so if the RIAA alerts the ISP, and the ISP doesn't stop it, the RIAA can go after the ISP which has deeper pockets.
ISPs suck in their own way also. They vary but we know things like limiting bandwidth is on their agenda. Regardless, from the article it sounds like ALL they have to do is mail out letters telling people to stop. If they do that I'm not sure the RIAA can go after them. Besides how easy is it to make an argument that peoples wifi had been stolen/compromised. Its just more of the same nonsense we have seen. They do indeed have far deeper pockets, they also have the ability to fight **** law suits with real legal representation. Obviously the battle was won but the war is not over. Still, I doubt the RIAA is going to get money from ISPs. I don't know how you can argue that this is not more reasonable. The RIAA is comprised of representatives from nearly 90% of record labels in the USA. We know the majors are losing a **** ton of their capital more and more year after year. A few large law suits are not going to save them and they know it.
I welcome any new strategy to fight what IS ILLEGAL in the first place as long as it in the end it is fair and leaves the consumer with the real power to determine their fate (the majors).
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I'm kinda two sided on that subject. I don't own an MP3 player personally, so I don't ever download music. I still love my CD's to much. I think that it should be legal though, but the artists and the record companies still need some kind of compensation. Their music is a copyrighted product of their own creation. They deserve something in return. Hopefully they'll be able to work something out.The nirvana inducer-
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Agreed, artists deserve to be compensated fairly for their work. how that is to be accomplished in the digital age is the bug. I've never bought an mp3 file as the sound quality is horrible, I still buy the cd if I think it's worthy after getting recommendations or hearing tracks on the artists website.Review Site_ (((AudioPursuit)))
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Agreed, artists deserve to be compensated fairly for their work. how that is to be accomplished in the digital age is the bug. I've never bought an mp3 file as the sound quality is horrible, I still buy the cd if I think it's worthy after getting recommendations or hearing tracks on the artists website.
Nothing will ever replace CD's for me. I'd like to get an MP3 for my car, but that's about it. I love having multiple shelves full of hundreds and hundreds of CD's. You can't pick up an MP3 file and look through the booklet or look at the artwork on the case.The nirvana inducer-
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comfortablycurt wrote: »Nothing will ever replace CD's for me. I'd like to get an MP3 for my car, but that's about it. I love having multiple shelves full of hundreds and hundreds of CD's. You can't pick up an MP3 file and look through the booklet or look at the artwork on the case.
You can look at the artwork with many of today's mp3 players. Playlists and convenience are top reasons for mp3 players (or should I say the compressed or lossless formats in general since its not all mp3.). Not sure if its supported by any players, but song lyrics and liner notes in the tags would be a nice feature.____________________
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You can look at the artwork with many of today's mp3 players. Playlists and convenience are top reasons for mp3 players (or should I say the compressed or lossless formats in general since its not all mp3.). Not sure if its supported by any players, but song lyrics and liner notes in the tags would be a nice feature.
Part of the appeal of the ipod of yester year over say the dell juke box was its simplicity. If you look today iPods are bloated to no end with **** features.
The iphone and touchscreen ipods can display lyrics if you add them.. but the problem is this takes a while, the gracenotes cddb doesnt add these when they add the other tags. -
You can look at the artwork with many of today's mp3 players. Playlists and convenience are top reasons for mp3 players (or should I say the compressed or lossless formats in general since its not all mp3.). Not sure if its supported by any players, but song lyrics and liner notes in the tags would be a nice feature.
Sure, you can look at the artwork on a lot of the MP3 players, but it's not the same as being able to pick up your CD case, open it up and pull the booklet and and page through it. The screens on most MP3's are so small anyway that you can barely see the artwork to begin with. It's still better than not being able to see any artwork...but it's just not the same to me.
A collection of CD's is just that...a collection. You could have a billion MP3 files...and you still don't have anything to really show for it. When you walk into my living room one of the first things you see is my two shelves holding my collection of almost 500 CD's. Compare that to an iPod sitting on my coffee table...doesn't quite have the same impact to me. To each his own though.sdschwendener wrote: »Part of the appeal of the ipod of yester year over say the dell juke box was its simplicity. If you look today iPods are bloated to no end with **** features.
The iphone and touchscreen ipods can display lyrics if you add them.. but the problem is this takes a while, the gracenotes cddb doesnt add these when they add the other tags.
I'll agree with that...I don't need my cell phone to have internet connectivity, MP3, video, personal organizer and all that. I need a phone to make phone calls. I have a computer at home when I want to use the internet. The same goes for MP3's...if I were to get an MP3 player, I'd just get an iPod, that had the sole function of playing MP3's.The nirvana inducer-
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If the RIAA would create a social networking site and open up the music catalog of all their members and offer free mp3, flac, and apple lossless (properly tagged with good album art) for a $5 a month fee, I'd join. It'll give me an opportunity to find my more obscure stuff, simplify my hunt for classical music, and discover music that I'm not even aware of by interacting with others.
In other words, their business model is outdated and they need to come up with new ideas to distribute the music. -
Free downloads for $5 a manth? You could download hundreds of albums a month for $5. Are they supposed to make a profit from that? What about the artists?
Face it, the reason downloading music is so popular, is because people can steal it, like you, they don't think they should really have to pay much, if anything for it. -
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Face it, the reason downloading music is so popular, is because people can steal it, like you, they don't think they should really have to pay much, if anything for it.
Naw, my downloading days ended with Napster (crappy 128 bit mp3 and poor or wrong tagging), CD's and SACD's for me, but you do have a point. Think of this as an opportunity to get some of the folks who are downloading off that bandwagon and at least generate some revenue off of them. Those who walk into the stores or buy online (I spend a small fortune on music at Amazon) will most likely continue to do so.
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66chevyIISS wrote: »so does this mean I can reinstall Limewire??
If jacking bits is your MO you should have never gotten rid of limewire. It means you just don't SHARE.
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i havent bought music in a long time and i do not dwn load it. but i do feel that music costs way to much. 5 bucks max for a cd
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goingganzo wrote: »i havent bought music in a long time and i do not dwn load it. but i do feel that music costs way to much. 5 bucks max for a cd
In this case I usually settle for between 4-7 dollars a cd by getting lucky when a title I want is for sale used by a seller on amazon.com in like new, or VG condition. Sure it is a risk but I've done this for a very long time with flawless luck. For example Abraxas VG condition from a seller with 100% feedback, $6.73 shipped. Not at all bad.