Internet Explorer security flaw

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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited December 2008
    ntculenuff wrote: »
    dumb pc ? if i am using mozilla can i uninstall IE ?
    No, its integral to the OS.
    With XP, you don't have to have IE 7, you can still use IE6.
    McLoki wrote: »
    So, if you have IE on your machine but do not use it (use firefox instead) you are ok?
    Depends on the vulnerability. If its a vulnerability thats specific to a particular browser or browser version (or patch level), then yes, using another browser should be fine.
    If the malware is part of a download, or email, etc, then it does not matter what browser you have.
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited December 2008
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    http://news.zdnet.co.uk/security/0,1000000189,39291625,00.htm
    My IS dept. doesn't want them on the network. Granted, this report is
    from last year, but it's a fine example of perception VS. reality.

    Well there's your answer about 'holes' in MacOS
    "This shows that Apple had more than five times the number of flaws per month than Windows XP and Vista in 2007, and most of these flaws are serious,"

    It's been my experience that most companies don't allow other OS's on the network for reasons other than just thier inherent vulnerabilities or security posture (obviously take a look at MS Windows ;)), but rather it comes down to having a properly trained and familiarized staff to be able to research, and maintain the security on the other OS's. It also has a lot to do with application compatibility and technical support complexities across the enterprise that increase exponentially when adding a whole new platform. Oh and lets not forget about licensing fees-the company may already have site/corp licenses contracts in place where bringing in a new OS can actually cost a fortune to implement and support.
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited December 2008
    I believe that's a pretty good answer. There's a lot of unix/linux on the
    company network , since it's in the products we sell.
    Bottom like, all OS's need security patching. Burying your head in the
    sand because you're not running MS/IE isn't going to save you.
    Email and internet/networking is always going to open up holes.
    Browsers have to allow a lot of crap to occur to display all the
    stuff we want to see. Cookies, plug-ins, players, other utilities.
    Firefox seems to be better for many things, but all the work stuff
    I have to do from the laptop requires IE. Period. My other pc's run
    firefox, the wife's machine is up on Ubuntu as the OS.
    Be careful, and when in doubt, assume the worst. If something
    changes on your pc, look for trouble. Change default passwords on
    stuff. Don't use the same password for everything.
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  • doggie750
    doggie750 Posts: 1,160
    edited December 2008
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    I believe that's a pretty good answer. There's a lot of unix/linux on the
    company network , since it's in the products we sell.
    Bottom like, all OS's need security patching. Burying your head in the
    sand because you're not running MS/IE isn't going to save you.
    Email and internet/networking is always going to open up holes.
    Browsers have to allow a lot of crap to occur to display all the
    stuff we want to see. Cookies, plug-ins, players, other utilities.
    Firefox seems to be better for many things, but all the work stuff
    I have to do from the laptop requires IE. Period. My other pc's run
    firefox, the wife's machine is up on Ubuntu as the OS.
    Be careful, and when in doubt, assume the worst. If something
    changes on your pc, look for trouble. Change default passwords on
    stuff. Don't use the same password for everything.

    As a quick user at home, I normally unplug the network once I am done surfing. Is this safe enough?
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited December 2008
    doggie750 wrote: »
    As a quick user at home, I normally unplug the network once I am done surfing. Is this safe enough?



    NO. Sorry

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  • doggie750
    doggie750 Posts: 1,160
    edited December 2008
    disneyjoe7 wrote: »
    NO. Sorry

    :D;):D....easy on me now..........where's your love?
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited December 2008
    Ok but that was like asking if I pulled my hand out of my pocket, and the dog bit it bad it's will be ok if I put back in my pocket again. I think the damage is done. :eek: Putting your hand back in your pocket is the same if you unplugged your network cable, its the same the damage is done.

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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited December 2008
    disneyjoe7 wrote: »
    Ok but that was like asking if I pulled my hand out of my pocket, and the dog bit it bad it's will be ok if I put back in my pocket again. I think the damage is done. :eek: Putting your hand back in your pocket is the same if you unplugged your network cable, its the same the damage is done.

    Nice analogy. :)
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited December 2008
    I think he was kidding?
    Nobody really 100% safe. I pick on Mac users only for their own good.
    Too many don't know better, and assume they are 100% safe, and
    never update.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,456
    edited December 2008
    MS is releasing an emergency patch tomorrow.

    Has anyone received the patch yet?
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited December 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    Has anyone received the patch yet?

    I did this afternoon.
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  • Disc Jockey
    Disc Jockey Posts: 1,013
    edited December 2008
    I haven't, nor do I see it on he MS site
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited December 2008
    I don't know why some are getting the patch and some aren't, but my laptop is 1 week old so everything was already up to date.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited December 2008
    I just got it as a automatic update.
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited December 2008
    How can you guys use that article as justification for OS X as having more flaws then a PC? That article is written about an article written about research from one company. Not very scientific if you ask me.

    And what's with all the talk about no one wants to write a Mac virus? If I knew anything about writing code and I felt like being an ****, I would think it would be pretty cool to come up with a virus that really beat the **** out of all the apples out there.

    I would never not update my computer. I love having the most up to date stuff, regardless of what it is. Updates are free, why skip them?
  • Disc Jockey
    Disc Jockey Posts: 1,013
    edited December 2008
    Looks like it's being released over the next few days, just due to the volume of the updates they have to get out. You can get on their site and download it manually though.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,456
    edited December 2008
    Ok, I just got it after checking for updates.
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  • doggie750
    doggie750 Posts: 1,160
    edited December 2008
    disneyjoe7 wrote: »
    Ok but that was like asking if I pulled my hand out of my pocket, and the dog bit it bad it's will be ok if I put back in my pocket again. I think the damage is done. :eek: Putting your hand back in your pocket is the same if you unplugged your network cable, its the same the damage is done.

    Sorry for being unclear on my initial post but let me clarify it my dear polkthug:)
    Since I am a partime online user at home, I usually unplug the network when I am on my PC. As informed by my IT friends, this will discourage hackers going into your computer due to the minimal online hours usage. Per your analogy, sorry the dog hasn't bite yet. As a normal average brain, we all know if the damage is done, unplugging the network would be a futile act.
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