X-Men Origins: Wolverine (trailer)

Ron-P

http://www.myspace.com/x-menorigins

Ron Temple

All I get's a screenshot, no preview. The file says 0.0 minutes.

fatchowmein

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlC0XQ6VXNQ

Ron-P

Ron Temple wrote: »

All I get's a screenshot, no preview. The file says 0.0 minutes.

Hmmm, it works for me.


This one looks like a rental at best. I'm not an X-Men fan and even those films were just ok. Not near the top of the comic book movie list by a long shot.

MacLeod

This looks pretty good to me. Nothing like a new Batman or Spiderman but Ill more than likely check it out in the theater. I liked the Xmen movies enough.

obieone

I'm no sci-fi fan, but I think all 3 X-Men movies(thus far) have been good. And THAT is suprising. Usually sequels eff it up(Like the 2nd Pirates movie)

Ron-P

I enjoyed the 2nd Pirates but the 3rd was terrible, but soon, we'll get to see a fourth.

MSALLA

Looks like it's going to be good.

MrNightly

Kickass ride...

I really enjoyed it.

8 outta 10 for me. If you frequent theaters, this is worth your time!

Mahna Mahna

Saw it for free when it got leaked on the internet. Great movie

MacLeod

Just got back from the matinee and this was pretty damn good. Not super spectacular or anything but worth the price of admission.

Plenty of action and great fight scenes and the story never gets too convoluted. Ending kinda seemed a little flat tho.

Id say its worth seeing in the theater but if I could only see one flick this month Id wait for this one to hit DVD and go see Star Trek myself.

7 out of 10

millerman 3732

I enjoyed it, it does start to drag alittle at the end when they start trying to cram all the extra characters in, but it's defiantly not as bad as the critics are saying it is, I thinks its at around 37% over at RT.

BTW, what is Wolverine's real name? Jimmy Logan, Jimmy Creed, Logan Creed, or any thing even close to that? He gets called so many different names by so many different people I lost count.

millerman 3732

millerman 3732 wrote: »

BTW, what is Wolverine's real name? Jimmy Logan, Jimmy Creed, Logan Creed, or any thing even close to that? He gets called so many different names by so many different people I lost count.

Nevermind, I found it on Wikipedia, James Howlett, I wasn't even close.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine_(comics)

MacLeod

LOL!!! I noticed that too. At first he was James, then Jimmy which I got. But then it was Logan?? Huh?

wingnut4772

I just came back from seeing this and I liked it.Plenty of shirtless (and pantsless!) Hugh for me to enjoy

Jstas

MacLeod wrote: »

LOL!!! I noticed that too. At first he was James, then Jimmy which I got. But then it was Logan?? Huh?

Wolverine's real name is James Logan.

Victor Creed aka Sabertooth is the only one whoever called him Jimmy.

His father and mother called him James.

Everyone else called him Logan.

What's so hard to understand? It was pretty clear in the movie too.

Actually, I should have added that this was for the movie. Not the same in the comic book.

Jstas

I saw this and as a movie goer, I give it about a B+. It was fun although a tad on the confusing side with some plot holes that were not really glaring but hard to fill in.

As a comic book fan, C- at best. Mainly because those plot holes stem from the screen writers taking artistic license on the back stories and abilities of the various mutants in the film.

***WARNING: SPOILERS AFTER THIS. DO NOT READ FURTHER IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT***











For instance, Silver Fox is Kayla Silverfox in the movie. In the comic book, she has regenerative capabilities like Wolverine along with heightened human senses, strength and longevity from the Weapon X program, again, like Wolverine. In the movie, she has an ability to hypnotize people by touching them. That's it. Kinda kicks the Wolverine story in the gonads but makes for a peculiar plot twist in the movie. They also left her relationship with Wolverine quite unexplored and it felt like fluff because of it.

Wade Wilson/Deadpool. Deadpool dies in the movie and he is also made out to be Weapon XI. In the comic book, he doesn't. He just becomes horribly disfigured by Stryker's experiments and goes on after healing from his injuries in the fight. Deadpool's backstory is so convoluted that it's hard to make sense in how it all fits in. But the comic books have him being nothing like what was in the movie.

John Wraith aka Kestrel, is played by Will I Am in the movie and is killed by Sabertooth when Wolverine is trying to shakedown Gambit for info on Stryker and the "island" that Stryker is on. In the comic books, Kestrel recruits Maverick to Team X. Maverick later becomes Agent Zero. Agent Zero kills Kestrel and Sabertooth guts him in the comic book.

Another glaring issue is that The Blob was never part of Team X or involved in the Weapon X program in the comicbooks. Mastodon would have been the hulking character but that character was never really developed in the comic books and likely why they didn't use him. But The Blob in the comic books was a circus freak that use his "powers" for petty crime and later joined the Brotherhood of Mutants and Freedom Force.


These character deviations are where the plot holes come from.

As far as Wolverine goes, from Wikipedia:

As shown in the 2001-2002 miniseries Origin, Wolverine was born in 19th century Canada, around 1835, to rich plantation owners as James Howlett.

In the comics series the character grows into manhood on a mining colony in Northern British Columbia, adopting the name "Logan".[17] Logan leaves the colony and lives for a time in the wilderness among wolves, until returning to civilization, residing with the Blackfoot Indians.

More plot holes are a MASSIVE gap in the history and Wolverine did not fight in the wars with Sabretooth. He fought in them with Captain America. He also did not meet the Hudsons (whom he got the jacket and motorcycle from) until long after he had been all kinds of places including Japan, where he got married and had a son.

Lots of holes and missing parts. Kind of disappointing in that respect. The Wolverine story was a good movie all by itself without being chopped up for a screenplay.

Overall though, it was an entertaining movie.

ohskigod

all valid points from a comic fanpoint John, of course we both know how that rolls with movies. I can see why though, the movie moved just a skosh to fast for me (though i still enjoyed the hell out of it)

The Deadpool/wade wilson thing at the end was the most odd to me.....like WTF?!?!?!

there is supossed to be a deadpool movie though (yes, he lives in spite of the beheading, though i swear that hapenned in the comic too....John?), gonna be curious as to how that turns out. Deadpool has such rich material to make a great story in a movie, and I have faith Ryan Reynolds can pull off the wise **** aspect of the charachter?

zombie boy 2000

Jstas wrote: »

As a comic book fan, C- at best. Mainly because those plot holes stem from the screen writers taking artistic license on the back stories and abilities of the various mutants in the film.

Nail... head... all that jazz.
In the comics, Logan's love interest was a Japanese woman, no?

****SPOILER ALERT****















Why take such a dig at all the fanboys by sewing Deadpool's mouth shut? He's pretty much the reason everyone was so amped up to see the flick - being his entire allure are the words always coming from said mouth. They captured that PERFECTLY at the beginning with Reynolds (great casting btw). Effin' weak. If the next movie is going to be about him, then some changes have to me made.

Jstas

I really don't remember how Deadpool became Deadpool. There were several different story lines mixed and matched.

I do remember that Stryker's efforts to make him the next best weapon made him disfigured and that resulted in his masked costume.

From Wikipedia:

Dying and desperate for a cure, Wade volunteered for the second Weapon X program, where his body and mind were altered on a genetic level. The genetic manipulation was initially supposed to grant him a superhuman regenerative healing factor (based on the DNA of former Weapon X experiment Wolverine), stopping the progression of his cancer and greatly enhancing his physique. However, the cancer interacted with the genetic process in unanticipated ways; the process (initially) failed, disfiguring him horribly and making him significantly mentally unstable.

That's from the comic book. The movie is vastly different.

Jstas

zombie boy 2000 wrote: »

Nail... head... all that jazz.
In the comics, Logan's love interest was a Japanese woman, no?

****SPOILER ALERT****















Why take such a dig at all the fanboys by sewing Deadpool's mouth shut? He's pretty much the reason everyone was so amped up to see the flick - being his entire allure are the words always coming from said mouth. They captured that PERFECTLY at the beginning with Reynolds (great casting btw). Effin' weak. If the next movie is going to be about him, then some changes have to me made.

The thing I don't get is that they complained about Deadpool being mouthy, belligerent and stuff in the movie so they sewed his mouth shut. But Gambit is just as much of a jerk, albeit not in the movie, but in the comic books he is and they didn't make any kind of a stink about that.


And I gotta agree. I thought it wouldn't be so good but Ryan Reynolds was pretty much how I pictured Wade Wilson/Deadpool. A slightly different voice but yeah, perfect casting there. I think Hugh Jackman is awesome as Wolverine and they couldn't have cast Sabretooth better than Liev Schreiber.

I think Brian Cox was a much better Stryker though. And Taylor Kitsch, while he has the super hero look, Gambit didn't have long hair until the Endangered Species series. At least from what I can remember. Before that, he was always pictured with shorter hair. The hippie look wasn't what he had in the Wolverine Origins books, again, as far as I can remember. I might be wrong. Also, Taylor Kitsch does not have anything remotely close to the thick Creole accent that Gambit was always portrayed with. Also, as much of a thief and cad as Gambit was, he had a Southern Gentlemanly nature about him. None of that came through in the movie. I was very disappointed. Gambit is probably my most favorite Marvel mutant and his story is just as storied and epic as Wolverine's. An X-Men: Origins about Gambit would make a great movie, especially the Apocalypse and Mister Sinister years. I hope if he gets his own "Origins" flick, they either recast or Kitsch gets better at playing Gambit.

Speaking of which, Apocalypse. Now THAT would be an awesome book to make in to a movie!

zombie boy 2000

Deadpool died of cancer. At which point Lady Death fell in love with him and subsequently brought him back to life. Only instead of being mouthy, he was mouthy and incredibly insane. I guess dying will do that to you.

He's also credited with being one of the first mainstream comic book characters to break the Fourth Wall - in the way he constantly made modern pop culture references and would sometimes address the reader.

With that in mind, one of the three mystery eggs at the end of the credits make much sense.

Jstas

zombie boy 2000 wrote: »

Deadpool died of cancer. At which point Lady Death fell in love with him and subsequently brought him back to life. Only instead of being mouthy, he was mouthy and incredibly insane. I guess dying will do that to you.

He's also credited with being one of the first mainstream comic book characters to break the Fourth Wall - in the way he constantly made modern pop culture references and would sometimes address the reader.

With that in mind, one of the three mystery eggs at the end of the credits make much sense.

See, I didn't get to see the end of the credits because my phone kept ringing and I was cursing at it. My girl decided that she was going to be pissed off about that and started walking out. I asked her where she was going and she said "Out the theater". I was like "But there's more!" She says "They are credits, no, there isn't."

Stupid girls, don't know nuthin'!

zombie boy 2000

Yeah... depending on where you saw it, there were three different easter eggs. The one I'm referring to is where Deadpool picks up his severed head, raises his finger to his mouth and sshhhhhhh's the audience.

Jstas

Yeah well, I just read that there are only two really.

***WARNING: SPOILER CONTENT***

End 1: Stryker is found "walking until his feet bleed" by MP's wanting him for questioning of killing the General. (More of a mid-credits thing but critical to the Stryker storyline in the beginning of the X-Men movies)

End 2: Deadpool reaches out of the rubble and grabs his head with a now open mouth and goes "SHHHHH!!!" This is supposed to be a nod to not only a future "sequel" for Deadpool but also a nod to the comic book. Although I don't know how that second one could be true since they butchered it beyond recognition already.

End 3: Wolverine is seen in or heading to Japan. This is supposed to be a nod to Frank Miller's Wolverine apparently. But IMO, it's half hearted because they are swapping the story completely around. Wolverine's son is a muddy story to begin with but Wolverine's first encounter with Professor X comes shortly after the whole Deadpool thing at the end of the movie. This is in reference to Wolverine's son Daken (although it is speculated that Apocalypse tricked Wolverine in Japan in to going to the Savage Lands and Wolverine supposedly sired a son unknowingly with some royalty chick and the kid is called Elista but I don't know much about that).

But Wolverine has a problem with people controlling his mind and his first meeting with Xavier was meant for Wolverine to kill Xavier by order of Romulus who, again, wiped Wolverine's mind and tasked him with assassinating Xavier. But X sees the plan and wipes Wolverine's mind, yet again. We find that out in a later meeting with X where Wolverine's intentions were to find X so that X would help him heal his son.

That second meeting was after Wolverine tried to kill Captain America in Vietnam after defeating a villian name Nuke. But see, the thing is that Nuke was a kid that Wolverine took from his mother during the Vietnam War. He sired Daken before the Vietnam War. If all this stuff in the movie took place after the Vietnam War and essentially after 1985 judging by the model years of the vehicles in the movie, then the timeline for not only Wolverine in Japan be way off but so will the timelines for Nuke, his son Daken and even the start of the X-men as well as Xavier and Wolverine's ages being way off. That also makes a BIG implication for Magneto who is Xavier's friend and he was born just prior to WWII as well as Xavier who is WALKING in the movie. Xavier fights in the Korean War in the 50's and doesn't meet magneto for several years AFTER he spent time in India and Egypt (where he meets Storm). It's only AfTER he meets Magneto that he gets paralyzed by this space dude, Lucifer who literally drops a big rock on him. So Xavier walking in the mid 80's at the earlier from the movie is totally bogus.

Add to that the fact that Xavier in the X-Men's first movie has barely established Scott Summers (Cyclops) as the leader of the X-Men. He's also supposed in his mid to late 20's in that movie. He was an upperclassman in High School, probably around 16-18 in X-Men Origins: Wolverine. So how that is going to pan out with all the crap that happens to Wolverine in the comics in less than 10 years is beyond me. I guess they get half of it out of the way by **** up the time line here.

And when are they going to fit Captain America in to the whole mix? He was a fixture in many Wolverine stories for a very long time and they haven't even acknowledged his existence yet and totally wrote him out of WWI and WWII and putting Sabretooth in his role instead.

Again, it's really convoluted but if the movie story line is to be believed, Xavier and Wolverine are both going to be almost 200 years old by the time the "Wolverine's Son" and the Frank Miller derived Japan story pan out and that is way, way off of the original story. It's all messed up now and there is no way they are going to be able to recover the story line to the first two X-Men movies let alone anything like what was in the books.

millerman 3732

Jstas wrote: »

Wolverine's real name is James Logan.

Victor Creed aka Sabertooth is the only one whoever called him Jimmy.

His father and mother called him James.

Everyone else called him Logan.

What's so hard to understand? It was pretty clear in the movie too.

Actually, I should have added that this was for the movie. Not the same in the comic book.

Spoiler: in the movie it says that Victor Creed aka Sabertooth is Wolverine's brother so why wouldn't they go by the same last name?

EDIT: Okay according to IMBD Sbaretooth and Wolverines dad was named Thomas Logan, so why does Sabertooth go by Creed?

Jstas

Ugh.

Sabretooth and Wolverine...same mom, different dads...at first.

Apparently their mom was a **** and was sleepin' with Sabretooth's dad while married to the dude who is supposed to be Wolverine's father. Hence the reason they are related and posses a similar mutant ability in accelerated regeneration. But that was the movie.

In the comic books, they are not related but rather friends with a hate-hate relationship.

ND13

Sux!!! Worth a rent.

Sherardp

I enjoyed this one, I'll buy it on BD for sure.

CaligulaPolk

i saw it last week. i liked it but story s lil different