Computer down :(

disneyjoe7

A fan on my motherboard started to make noise awhile back..... :rolleyes: Then it would make noise on startup then get to speed and be ok after that.

The fan is a "Northbridge Fan" on a MSI SLI MB, now the report is it starts windows then black screen reboots over and over again. I haven't seen it myself but think the fan has stopped and the chip overheats and then reboots. Anyone know if this is a Motherboard swap out thing or if I can replace fan and it will ok again?


After google'n Northbridge fan I see MSI has had an issue with this fan, so if a MB replacement any suggestion AMD processor based?

AsSiMiLaTeD

Does it have a heatsink?

disneyjoe7

Sal,

How about this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118014&Tpk=zm-nbf47

disneyjoe7

AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »

Does it have a heatsink?

Yes it's a very small fan with a heatsink.

disneyjoe7

Lasareath wrote: »

I like the ones with a heatsink and fan. plus all mine don't use glue or adhesive. they use thermal paste

I agree with the thermal paste, but since this is a fan that died, why not fanless?

mewisemagic

sometimes you can remove the fan and clean it and then look for a little rubber plug, dust cap,etc.sometimes it will be under a label and take a toothpick and drop a little lite machine oil or synthetic motor oil in the bearing and spin the blade to work the oil in and replace the cap and that will give it a little more life till you can replace it or upgrade it

disneyjoe7

I have 7 case fans.

1. 120mm front
2. 80mm rear
1. 80mm side
2. PC power supply

Also

1. for the video card
1. Zalman CPU cooler


It should be cool, but this is Florida.

disneyjoe7

mewisemagic wrote: »

sometimes you can remove the fan and clean it and then look for a little rubber plug, dust cap,etc.sometimes it will be under a label and take a toothpick and drop a little lite machine oil or synthetic motor oil in the bearing and spin the blade to work the oil in and replace the cap and that will give it a little more life till you can replace it or upgrade it

Opened it up found fan working ok, but I did cleaned it with some "Blue Shower II" so it not a fan issue.

It will reboot itself while it trying to boot windows XP, the computer working ok I'm on it right now. I boot it up with Slax CD disk, is there any disk repair software on this CD program?

If not I'm going to try to get into safe window boot up, so I can run hard drive repair software.

Steve

disneyjoe7

Ok I need to confess....


This computer was the one which died before and all my old pictures where history. I reused this drive over again, but now its not booting, I defrag'd the drive in safe mode. I can see this hard drive with Slax CD boot, but it still won't boot normal with XP. Hard drive issue, or what should I do next?

It's a 250g SADA drive.

mewisemagic

well, i guess you can get a new drive and reinstall windows and hook the old drive up as a slave and see if you can get your files off of it (they say putting a bad drive in the freezer for a little while well help it ,don't know never tried that) probably could boot with slax and move files to thumb drive if it is able to read/see the drive or use knoppix the same way.

disneyjoe7

Well when I can get the pictures off it and replaced with another drive its trash.

I have 2 hard drives in this computer a smaller IDE 80g for backups is there a way like win explorer I can move directories from C: to drive with Slax?

SKsolutions

If the mobo is OK, and if it's going to black screen, it may be that ntldr. or ntdetect. is not being read, or started. You can copy them to a disk and copy them to the directory if you can get to a c: prompt with a startup disk of some sort.

http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixtheproblem/ht/ntldrntdetect.htm

disneyjoe7

Thanks for the tip, I try that when I get home later today at work now.


BTW that would cause it not to boot normal but in safe mode?

disneyjoe7

SKsolutions wrote: »

If the mobo is OK, and if it's going to black screen, it may be that ntldr. or ntdetect. is not being read, or started. You can copy them to a disk and copy them to the directory if you can get to a c: prompt with a startup disk of some sort.

http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixtheproblem/ht/ntldrntdetect.htm

Well that didn't work.... but it got me into the right direction. I search for a boot error and found "What to do when XP or 2000 Won't Boot" the first step reboot then F8, then select "Last Known Good Configuration". Did that reboot again it working ok now, I'm on it right now.



Thank YOU


Now should I replace that fan or was the "Blue Shower II" ok? Its working ok now I don't get any noise from it.

SKsolutions

Cool! :cool: I would grab any data that you want now. If it was software hiccup you should be OK, but if it was the drive getting lazy, it will happen again. You may be able to see something in the log/event files . . . also That may not have been fan noise you heard, it may have been the drive. A new drive and fan will be less than 100$. and a fresh install is always nice.

disneyjoe7

I do think it was a software hiccup, I wonder about large drives in general. I think this is why I reformatted it 6 months ago start fresh again, over buying another large drive. But it too may of been a software issue, it never made noise. The noise is the fan for sure, the fan started giving my trouble 2 months ago with a whine. I opened it up to see which fan was dieing thinking it was one of my cheap case fans only to find its the smallest fan on the motherboard.



More later...

Sherardp

External Hard drive and back up any data to include pics, docs, favorites etc. I would still buy the fan and replace it as well. Cant hurt anything, in the future if you do desire to change out mobo, check out Gigabyte. Glad youre up and running.

I ran into XP issues during a memory swap, total blue screen of death. Damn near had a fit, flashed my mobo bios for new mem and was good to go. I know the feeling, sux.

disneyjoe7

I have 4 computers now connected and running at home, part & others in closets so this computer is my main computer but I don't use it very much. If the fan makes noise yes I replace it, if the motherboard dies yes I look at Gigabyte. MSI motherboard I won't buy it again, but all in all it's been good just the fan issue. I asked about when I really need to get into a hard drive to back up when I have a blue screen of death. That's when Slax software came about, so if I can see drive 1 and drive 2 with that. How can I move files from drive 1 to drive 2 my pictures where at the time 10gig in size so back up was hard to do. CD disks are too small, USB drives are usually to small (but I have a 2gig one), my back up drive was too small at that time 6gig (now it's 80gig)

disneyjoe7

Ok I figured out how to transfer files on Slax.... Drag and drop I would add it takes me sometime to figure it out but I really didn't wish to open that door....

That is a live saver very nice, Thanks again to unc2701 for the link to it. He came me the link before on another thread.

Sherardp

Glad you got everything under control and files saved.