CD Recorders

hoosier21
hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
edited February 27 in Clubhouse Archives
Well I am going to give my wife an idea for Christmas and it will be a CD recorder, looking for any thoughts you may have.

Question, I have heard "bit for bit" copies are the best (you get an exact copy of the CD) but how do you know a CD-R deck does or does not give you this?

Can I get the cheaper models and get the "bit for bit" and just suffer in build quility?

I an planning on a dual deck.

Somebody help, please.
Dodd - Battery Preamp
Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
Outlaw ICBM - crossover
Beringher BFD - sub eq

Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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  • CHRIS
    CHRIS Posts: 454
    edited October 2001
    I have read theyare making anti-copy CDs. Not like macrvision anticopy but in the CD itself which would bring up an error message. I feel it was taegeted more towards PCs then CD copiers. They are doing this because of sites like Napster. The artis don't want copies and are starting to win the war against it. I was oing a search on www.dogpile.com and found this you may be able to find it and get more answers. I don't remember the whole thing but that the jist of it, also hundreds of thousands of copies of these CDs have been released in Europe.
    Chris
    Chris :)
  • PETERNG
    PETERNG Posts: 918
    edited October 2001
    If you plan to copy digital to digital, you will get exactly the same copy as the original on the CD-R. The more expensive CD-R will give you better quality analog-digital recording because it has a better DAC (digital/analog converter) and better playback quality(same on PC, better sound card, you will get better A/D recording). So if you plan to do a lot of analog to digital recording, get the more expensive one. Its more convenience to use dual deck or multi-changer deck for recording (they have faster speed recording options: 2x or 4x, one touch recording…), but these types of machines are usually less-quality built than the single deck. I prefer the later one and I use digital connection to make recording (optical/coaxial). I burned CD via one single deck player to a single deck recorder, last week I recorded 17 songs into one single blank CD, then I make copy of this CD to use in my car via PC (you can get around SCMS using PC, the TDK drive can recorded up to 24x speed, total 4 min for a CD, it also has the error-free recording software making CD-recording much more easier than before). Remember, the CD-R deck will accept the blank CD-R with the label “Digital audio” only, these discs are more expensive than the one that use for computer. Anyway, you will have a lot of fun with the CD-R, buying one of this it’s win/win deal…
    I bought the Pioneer PDR-609 last week for $161 (made in Japan), and 30 blank discs (80min) for 12.95. I paid about half of that amount for 30 PC blank discs. There are so many CD-R machines available in the market now with lower prices, check out the Oct issue of the Sound and Vision magazine; it has the list and some recommendations also.
    Have fun…
  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited October 2001
    Thanks, were did you get that good deal on the Pioneer?
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
  • PETERNG
    PETERNG Posts: 918
    edited October 2001
    I bought the Pioneer PDR-609 @ the local BB store, at the time of the purchase, they still have several of them in stock.
  • PETERNG
    PETERNG Posts: 918
    edited October 2001
    CD-R will not record DD 5.1 or DTS sound from DVD; it will record DTS sound from DTS CD. I try to record the DTS tracks from the Santana and Bee Gees DVDs; it did not recognize or convert the digital input. It works and record with all DTS CDs (Eagles, Police, Don Henley…). Since I don’t have a DVD drive on my PC, I do not know if this procedure is possible on PC, but I expect it may work on PC…
  • -justin-
    -justin- Posts: 891
    edited October 2001
    Don't get a cd recorder that does not go into your computer. They suck. SUCK! Make sure you get a plextor or yamaha CD-RW drive, with AT LEAST 16x recording capabilities.

    I just purchased a spindle of 100 disks (yes, that means no cases) for $29.95, no tax, and free shipping. That's freakin' 30 cents a disk. Just make sure you return your friend's borrowed CDs or they may get a little mad at you. And of course you can buy one of those cases that holds 200 cds, and you are home free.

    If you need any advice on how to record exact digital copies, I would LOVE to tell you all about it.

    ~JB
  • PETERNG
    PETERNG Posts: 918
    edited October 2001
    The CD-R that don’t go into your computer works fine, you will have less options and flexibilities to record CD, and you can not get around the SCMS. If you already have PC, get the CD-R drive, if you don’t have PC and don’t want to spend $1000 bucks to buy the PC, then your best option is to buy the CD-R deck, there are some good machines in the market, depend on how much money you want to spend, digital to digital recording will give you the copied CD exactly the same as the original, more expensive CD-R player will offer you better quality analog-digital recording.