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Fatbrando
Fatbrando Posts: 275
edited November 2008 in The Clubhouse
So tomorrow I have to take the money allocated for my new SDA's and fix my automobile. Watch as all the "pristine, upgraded, mint condition, selling at incredibly low price's" SDA's come out of the woodwork here in Southern California. Get ready the deals are gonna jump out at ya! Best of luck and I hope I'm wrong. Keep on Polkin'....


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  • KrazyMofo24
    KrazyMofo24 Posts: 1,206
    edited November 2008
    I have to replace 3 of my tires, and Tie rods for my front right according to Firestone going to be around $500. :(
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited November 2008
    My truck needs all 4 tires and an alignment... $650

    My house needs 7 new windows... $994

    Every time I make a non-essential purchase, I feel guilty as all hell. But, you have to have a little fun or you'll die of stress.
    Ludicrous gibs!
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited November 2008
    nadams wrote: »
    My truck needs all 4 tires and an alignment... $650
    How the heck can it cost that much?! What size are they? The 31" tires for my Cherokee are about $70-$80 a piece...
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited November 2008
    audiobliss wrote: »
    How the heck can it cost that much?! What size are they? The 31" tires for my Cherokee are about $70-$80 a piece...

    You buy some cheap-**** tires?

    I have decent (but certainly not expensive) tires on my Subaru that were 116 each from TireRack.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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  • KrazyMofo24
    KrazyMofo24 Posts: 1,206
    edited November 2008
    The cheapest tires for mine start at $110. That's just 17' for a Mustang GT. I'm hoping there will be some sales for Day after Thanksgiving.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited November 2008
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    You buy some cheap-**** tires?

    I have decent (but certainly not expensive) tires on my Subaru that were 116 each from TireRack.
    I'm sure they're not the greatest, but I dont' think they're junk, either. Bridgestone 275/55r15. I believe they're Bridgestone Deuler H/T's.
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,454
    edited November 2008
    audiobliss wrote: »
    I'm sure they're not the greatest, but I dont' think they're junk, either. Bridgestone 275/55r15. I believe they're Bridgestone Deuler H/T's.

    You should consider some Michelin's.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited November 2008
    Uhoh, fights about tire brands can get as dirty as auto brands.... :)
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited November 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    You should consider some Michelin's.
    Per Dad's allegiances, I'd have to agree Michelin makes great tires.

    However, they're a little too expensive to just paint the streets with. ;)
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited November 2008
    My tires are 245/75R16's. I was looking at Hercules Tires... I believe All Country A/T's. If I'm not mistaken, they are a USA-made tire.

    My former neighbor owns a tire shop and that's all he sells. If he didn't trust them, he'd never sell them.
    Ludicrous gibs!
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited November 2008
    audiobliss wrote: »
    I'm sure they're not the greatest, but I dont' think they're junk, either. Bridgestone 275/55r15. I believe they're Bridgestone Deuler H/T's.

    Tires for 15" wheels are the cheapest tires you can buy. 16s are a little more expensive, and they go up from there. Thats in part why. Plus you figure in road hazard warranty, mounting and balancing, tax. I believe mine were around $550 for all 4.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,986
    edited November 2008
    Michelin is the cream of the crop. You can tell by the # of air holes [or rubber "fingers" that stick out] that help with the aeration of the original tire design during the mold process. The more that you have, the lower the quality and the more issues you have with the tire design and it is also indicative of the issues the manufacturer had with the build of the tire. All of those "fingers" indicate where the tire design had an initial failure that had to be punctured to release excess air. A well designed tire does not need many air outlets.

    Michelin will have the least amount.

    Hence the price. ;)
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  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited November 2008
    audiobliss wrote: »
    Per Dad's allegiances, I'd have to agree Michelin makes great tires.

    However, they're a little too expensive to just paint the streets with. ;)

    I took Michelins off my SUV that had 1/2 of their tread left and put Bridgestone's on because they were just plain terrible in the snow and ice. I've used Firestone and Bridgestone for years, but performance tires (Potenza REO50) and SUV all season. Not sure what is up with those Michelins (can't remember the model) but they were really scary in the snow. (couldn't steer or stop)
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  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited November 2008
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Michelin is the cream of the crop. You can tell by the # of air holes [or rubber "fingers" that stick out] that help with the aeration of the original tire design during the mold process. The more that you have, the lower the quality and the more issues you have with the tire design and it is also indicative of the issues the manufacturer had with the build of the tire. All of those "fingers" indicate where the tire design had an initial failure that had to be punctured to release excess air. A well designed tire does not need many air outlets.

    Michelin will have the least amount.

    Hence the price. ;)

    What does mold design have to do with tire design performance?

    I know that Michelin makes some great tires (particularly performance tires) but for me there isn't a compelling reason to ditch my Potenzas for the extra $$'s. I might try Dunlop's for next year's track season just to see how much money I can save and still stay on the track.
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  • Pauly
    Pauly Posts: 4,519
    edited November 2008
    id rather buy gear then change my oil or for that fact get it changed.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited November 2008
    Oh boy. Dunlops are what were on my Jeep when we bought it. They were flat out SCARY! They could barely grip when it was dry, but you had NO traction if it was wet out at all. I'm not really exaggerating much either. It was VERY easy with those tires to touch the throttle mid-turn in the rain and accidentally initiate a slide. Stopping in the wet was bad, too.

    Now, in hindsight, I was a new driver then...so it was scary...now, I think I could have had a good bit of fun with those...:D :p

    EDIT - I had NO clue what those Dunlops were, as we got rid of them pretty quickly. However, out of curiosity, I just looked through some OLD pics of the Jeep when it was still wearing the Dunlops. In case you were interested, they were Dunlop A/T Radial Rovers.

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    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited November 2008
    spasticpitbull wrote: »
    id rather buy gear then change my oil or for that fact get it changed.

    Have fun spending that gear money on a new car... or engine...
    Ludicrous gibs!
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  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited November 2008
    audiobliss wrote: »
    Oh boy. Dunlops are what were on my Jeep when we bought it. They were flat out SCARY! They could barely grip when it was dry, but you had NO traction if it was wet out at all. I'm not really exaggerating much either. It was VERY easy with those tires to touch the throttle mid-turn in the rain and accidentally initiate a slide. Stopping in the wet was bad, too.

    Now, in hindsight, I was a new driver then...so it was scary...now, I think I could have had a good bit of fun with those...:D :p

    EDIT - I had NO clue what those Dunlops were, as we got rid of them pretty quickly. However, out of curiosity, I just looked through some OLD pics of the Jeep when it was still wearing the Dunlops. In case you were interested, they were Dunlop A/T Radial Rovers.

    746128_3_full.jpg

    Heh heh... I fellow weekend racer bought some of the Dunlop Direzza's this season and said they are fairly decent at the track but not as good as the Bridgestone Potenzas. We will see what kind of deals there are over the winter.

    Of course, now I have the winter tires on which have much less dry grip, so I need to be careful to save the rubber and not leave too much on the road **** around.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited November 2008
    Tires make no difference. Rubber is rubber. I've done A/B tests and......





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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited November 2008
    I will be spending some of my toy money tomorrow on a new water pump, tire rotation, oil change, and a new brake hose. Oh well.
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  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited November 2008
    Ricardo wrote: »
    Tires make no difference. Rubber is rubber. I've done A/B tests and......





    Ups. wrong thread.....

    :D I was waiting for that....
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited November 2008
    Judging a tire BRAND based on an experience with a single TIRE is kind of silly. At least as far as performance goes - durability and reliability are maybe a different deal. But even minor differences within the same MODEL, let alone brand, can be night and day in a tire. My car came stock with a set of Bridgestone Potenza "performance" tires, which were great in dry weather and turned into slip-n-slides in the snow. I bought some all-weather Potenzas - same brand, even same model line, just a different "flavor" - and it's a completely different experience. I love the tires I have on there now.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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  • Pauly
    Pauly Posts: 4,519
    edited November 2008
    nadams wrote: »
    Have fun spending that gear money on a new car... or engine...
    waiting for it to die so i have an excuse to get a smart car stacked with polk gear bumping down crenshaw. ;):D

    Pauly
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  • goingganzo
    goingganzo Posts: 2,793
    edited November 2008
    dam that makes my $250 each tire expencive.245/40/18
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  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited November 2008
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    Judging a tire BRAND based on an experience with a single TIRE is kind of silly. At least as far as performance goes - durability and reliability are maybe a different deal. But even minor differences within the same MODEL, let alone brand, can be night and day in a tire. My car came stock with a set of Bridgestone Potenza "performance" tires, which were great in dry weather and turned into slip-n-slides in the snow. I bought some all-weather Potenzas - same brand, even same model line, just a different "flavor" - and it's a completely different experience. I love the tires I have on there now.

    Pretty silly to drive summer compound tires in the snow...
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  • goingganzo
    goingganzo Posts: 2,793
    edited November 2008
    i tryed the summer olny tires in the winter. but we olny get 40 in of snow a year here. but with my air ride it made my car realey hook
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited November 2008
    Summer tires usually harden in the cold, making traction worse.

    Snow tires are made to be softer in the winter months.
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  • BrettT1
    BrettT1 Posts: 560
    edited November 2008
    I bought extended warranties for both of my vehicles. Of course that doesn't cover tires, brakes, shocks, struts, hoses, belts or oil changes:rolleyes:. I still have the original tires - Michelins on the van and pretty lame looking BFGoodrich on the stang. One of the BFG had a flat from a "sharp, tooth shaped rock". lol
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited November 2008
    Firestone sucks. Maybe not all their tires, but I've been burned several times.
    I avoid them when I can. I also got burned at discount tire on effin' tire stems.
    Tire stems! What should ever go wrong with tire stems? Seems they
    were using cheap Chinese ones that split open. I had one go out in less than
    a year. Then about two months later I saw the notice that I had to
    go back and have my tires checked out. I was a bit miffed.

    Yes, you buy new audio equipment, something's going to break.
    In fact, for me it normally happens about the same time I get the
    cash together, just before purchase.
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  • Mike Kozak
    Mike Kozak Posts: 931
    edited November 2008
    audiobliss wrote: »
    How the heck can it cost that much?! What size are they? The 31" tires for my Cherokee are about $70-$80 a piece...

    When I had my 95 Corvette, the tires were only supposed to last 12 months or so and cost 300.00 each!! (not including mounting and balancing)
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