Preamp down! This is not a drill! I repeat, this is not a drill!

SolidSqual
SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
edited November 2008 in Electronics
My preamp is toast. I was putting new batteries in it and somehow made contact where I shouldn't have. I don't know what the eff I did wrong.

Visible Damage Assessment:

1. Completely blew off point-solder from battery 3 to circuit board.
2. Battery is now melted to positive connector.
3. Visible flecks and material flaking out of circuit board.
4. Fuses are blown.
5. Tubes are black.
6. Black soot on battery.

How do you think the rest of this thing survived? The prognosis looks grim.

The good news is that I made a call to Gary Dodd and he seems to think its now big deal and will fix it in 20 minutes.



Mike
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited November 2008
    That sounds familiar for some reason.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,116
    edited November 2008
    I feel your pain. Now the real aggravating part is waithig for the repair. Probably about a month for turn around. :eek: Unless of course you can tackle it yourself.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited November 2008
    Roger that Mark.

    Mike, Dodd will take care of you, don't sweat it.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited November 2008
    dorokusai wrote: »
    That sounds familiar for some reason.

    Has this happened before? I wasn't able to find anything using the forum search.
    Ludicrous gibs!
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited November 2008
    dorokusai wrote: »
    That sounds familiar for some reason.

    He's referring to a preamp I purchased from him back in the day that was also battery powered. And also blew something . . .

    This is Not the same. Yours never worked out of the box. I hope you're not insinuating that I busted the preamp you sent me and then claimed it was your fault. I have no problem taking responsibility for my own screw-ups.

    The real issue was that the new batteries mailed to me by Mr. Dodd were 2 millimeters out of spec because they came from a new manufacturer and were on the high side of tolerance. He gave me some directions on how to adjust the Dodd to allow the batteries to fit in the chassis. He warned me this might happen . . .
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited November 2008
    I wasn't insinuating that at all but it's an awfully funny coincidence.

    The Welborne Labs worked when it left here but unfortunately not after it arrived at your residence. I do recall that I took care of everything from start to finish, regardless of what I believed....didn't I?
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited November 2008
    dorokusai wrote: »
    I wasn't insinuating that at all but it's an awfully funny coincidence.

    The Welborne Labs worked when it left here but unfortunately not after it arrived at your residence. I do recall that I took care of everything from start to finish, regardless of what I believed....didn't I?

    Yes sir you did. Without question. (also not insuating anything on my end.)

    Sorry if I snapped. I'm just tired and irritated.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited November 2008
    I wish that didn't happen to you Mike, seriously.

    Let us know what the fix ends up being...Gary is solid.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited November 2008
    Ouch... didn't mean to open a whole can of worms here.

    I'm wondering if the new batteries had the terminals improperly labeled or something. Sounds like something shorted out hard.
    Ludicrous gibs!
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited November 2008
    No worms Noah.... everything was worked out and everyone was happy in the end. He moved onto bigger and better gear as well.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited November 2008
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    My preamp is toast. I was putting new batteries in it and somehow made contact where I shouldn't have. I don't know what the eff I did wrong.

    Visible Damage Assessment:

    1. Completely blew off point-solder from battery 3 to circuit board.
    2. Battery is now melted to positive connector.
    3. Visible flecks and material flaking out of circuit board.
    4. Fuses are blown.
    5. Tubes are black.
    6. Black soot on battery.

    How do you think the rest of this thing survived? The prognosis looks grim.

    The good news is that I made a call to Gary Dodd and he seems to think its now big deal and will fix it in 20 minutes.



    Mike

    Ouch-sorry to hear that---:( Pics??
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited November 2008
    Pics of what?
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited November 2008
    RuSsMaN wrote: »
    Pics of what?

    er umm I don't know...
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    Visible Damage Assessment:

    1. Completely blew off point-solder from battery 3 to circuit board.
    2. Battery is now melted to positive connector.
    3. Visible flecks and material flaking out of circuit board.
    4. Fuses are blown.
    5. Tubes are black.
    6. Black soot on battery.

    ;)
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    2-chnl : Pio DV-46AV (SACD), Dodd ELP, Emotiva XPA-1s, XPA-2, Odyssey Khartago, LSi9, SDA-SRS 2 :cool:, SB Duet, MSB & Monarchy DACs, Yamaha PX3 TT, SAE Tuner...
    Pool: Atrium 60's/45's
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited November 2008
    Sorry no pics. I can't bare to look at it anymore. I feel like I lost my right nut. I got it all boxed and ready to be shipped tomorrow morning. Gary has been amazing. His attitude really put me at ease. For a minute I thought I just torched $2,500. Whew . . .
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited November 2008
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    ... I feel like I lost my right nut. ...
    I know that feeling-turned out to be a Hernia though :eek::rolleyes: Ouch

    Its cool this is getting taken care of.

    Now stick with just playing with live AC. DC is just too dangerous for you ;)
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    2-chnl : Pio DV-46AV (SACD), Dodd ELP, Emotiva XPA-1s, XPA-2, Odyssey Khartago, LSi9, SDA-SRS 2 :cool:, SB Duet, MSB & Monarchy DACs, Yamaha PX3 TT, SAE Tuner...
    Pool: Atrium 60's/45's
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited November 2008
    mmadden28 wrote: »
    I know that feeling-turned out to be a Hernia though :eek::rolleyes: Ouch

    Its cool this is getting taken care of.

    Now stick with just playing with live AC. DC is just too dangerous for you ;)

    Yeah, that's just not going to happen. Dodd's customer service coupled with the fact that I'd be hard pressed to find a preamp in this range that sounds as good is a no-brainer.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited November 2008
    Got my Preamp back today!!!!!!!!! Awww yeah, this thing sounds good.
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited November 2008
    WONDERFUL! Now, don't fry it again. :p
    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited November 2008
    megasat16 wrote: »
    WONDERFUL! Now, don't fry it again. :p

    +1:p:D
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • curved
    curved Posts: 664
    edited November 2008
    What did they do to it (or should I say what did you do to it)?
    Living Room:....................[HTML] [/HTML] Zone 2 (Workout Room):
    AVR - Yamaha RX-V757......JBL 4312 Pro Monitors
    Pre - Nak CA-5
    AMP - Adcom 555 (Main)
    Main - Polk RTI8**/RTiA5
    AMP - Adcom 545II (Center)
    Center - Polk CSiA4**
    Sub - Snell Basis 300:p......Zone 3 (Outside)
    CD - Yamaha CDC-555.......Def Tech AW5500
    TV - Pani TH-42PZ80U
    BR - LG BD390
    Monster HTS1600 Power Center
    Dedicated Circuit - (2) 20amp, (1) 15amp
    Ben's IC, Canare 4S11
    **Dayton and Sonicap Caps with Mills Resistors**
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