Need a REALLY quick advice.

kolyan2k
kolyan2k Posts: 259
I am running LSi9s, LSiC, and FXs with 3 monoblocks from Outlaw and I have FXs sitting on Yamaha HTR-6090. I also have one Martin Logan Dynamo hooked up via "sub-out" from AVR. I am moving and my room will be expending: 13x30 with listening area about 13x16. The question is: Should I buy second Dynamo ? And maybe hook it up straight from my first Dynamo's "multi sub-out" port ?
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited November 2008
    Listen to it first with both music and movies. That will give you the best indicator if you need another one.
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  • kolyan2k
    kolyan2k Posts: 259
    edited November 2008
    cfrizz wrote: »
    Listen to it first with both music and movies. That will give you the best indicator if you need another one.

    i would do that. but i have not moved in yet and this sub that i want to purchase will not last long for $350-400
  • curved
    curved Posts: 664
    edited November 2008
    Obviously 2 is better than 1.....

    Each sub will have to work half as hard for the same output in that size room

    I say go for it - you will have a lot more options for placement (stacked, stereo, etc)
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  • Music Joe
    Music Joe Posts: 459
    edited November 2008
    I second the above ... do it.

    The price is certainly right...the added benefit of multiple placement to even out bass or coupled to get the extra 6db.

    The chance to match up an already owned sub for about 1/2 price...yes it could end up collecting dust, though I doubt it will.

    350 for spare parts, a back-up unit , or just the ticket however you choose...in this hobby we likely all have spare gear clocking time in a corner or closet.
  • kolyan2k
    kolyan2k Posts: 259
    edited November 2008
    well I ended up buying second dynamo at tweeter for $360

    So now I have 3 options on hooking this up: LFE out, stereo, or a guy at tweeter sugested using LFE for one and center channel for another
  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited November 2008
    I would recommend running them both from the LFE out. (use a Y cable to split the signal to each sub)
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    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
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  • Eric W
    Eric W Posts: 556
    edited November 2008
    kolyan2k wrote: »
    well I ended up buying second dynamo at tweeter for $360

    So now I have 3 options on hooking this up: LFE out, stereo, or a guy at tweeter sugested using LFE for one and center channel for another
    I would not recommend doing the "one on center, one on sub" configuration. Try it out stereo and split LFE. Like McLoki I'd recommend the latter...
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  • kolyan2k
    kolyan2k Posts: 259
    edited November 2008
    I was passing by another tweeter and another audiofile in store Also recommended LFE or Center channel. Will try both tonight
  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited November 2008
    Never hear of trying to run a sub off your center. (REALLY deep voices??) fronts maybe but not center. I stick with my original suggestion - just run stereo LFE's....
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited November 2008
    kolyan2k wrote: »
    I was passing by another tweeter and another audiofile in store Also recommended LFE or Center channel. Will try both tonight

    I wouldn't call him an audiofile. It's more like audiofool. You have two choices. No wonder tweeter is going down:(
    A: run them both LFE
    B: you can hook them up stereo, and set the source to no sub. The LFE tracks will then go to both L/R speakers. This will tax you mains heavily though, and depending on the level it could damage them.

    I would stick with A;)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited November 2008
    Full range center kicks ****...

    Same thing for surrounds --

    But definitely agree with the above - run it LFE *stereo* - which isnt a correct statement. No such thing as stereo LFE --- the proper way to do it is stack it since it isnt stereo if you seperate them -- you risk cancelations and yada yada
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited November 2008
    Put one sub in the front, the other in the back. I currently have two subs set up this way for HT. Bass all over the place.
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  • kolyan2k
    kolyan2k Posts: 259
    edited November 2008
    Full range center kicks ****...

    Same thing for surrounds --

    But definitely agree with the above - run it LFE *stereo* - which isnt a correct statement. No such thing as stereo LFE --- the proper way to do it is stack it since it isnt stereo if you seperate them -- you risk cancelations and yada yada

    So are you saying it IS a common thing to do........to run sub from center pre-out ?

    I have 0 movies and my cable box is not working, and its a big pain to for me to hook the sub up to center. This is why I cannot try it for myself at the current moment.
  • kolyan2k
    kolyan2k Posts: 259
    edited November 2008
  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited November 2008
    Of course I ment dual subs from the same input - not stereo (just got lazy in my description).

    As for stacking vs separating them, that is completely room dependent. (good room for bass, stack - bad room, separate.)

    If you run your center as small - you are crossing over to your subs electronically before it goes to the amps (only subs are producing bass, center is only producing above 80hz. - and yes, I know that the crossover is a slope, not a cliff and that statement is not exactly right either, but you know what I mean).

    If you run your center as large with a sub in line - you are low pass filtering for the sub (blocking the highs) but your center is still trying to run full range. It will work, but the cases where it would sound better would be limited. I would think you would have more of an issue with cancellations this way as well since it would be similar to trying to run 2 different subs at the same time, something most seem to recommend avoiding if at all possible.

    Anyway - best of luck in your test and definately report back what you find out.

    Michael
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    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
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    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited November 2008
    Nice setup, add a motorized screen and a front Projector for viewing during the night hours and youre golden. Nice setup .
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