Speaker down!! I repeat -- speaker down!!

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Early B.
Early B. Posts: 7,900
edited November 2008 in DIY, Mods & Tweaks
I accidentally broke the binding posts on one of my speakers. I figured it would be a simple fix -- WRONG! The damn thing is glued, screwed, and subdued. Plus, a few crossover components are affixed to the post. Even the manufacturer said I'd have a hard time replacing it. I need to call an expert 'cause a broken speaker is like a songbird with laryngitis.


{vent mode on} -- Why the hell put cheap **** binding posts on supposedly high quality gear?? I stepped on the speaker cable and it broke off at the metal part of the post, not the plastic part (see pic). WTF??? {vent mode off}
HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

"God grooves with tubes."
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 4,943
    edited November 2008
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    WTF! Vent mode highly appropriate, in this case, IMO! I hope you find a fix.
    Alea jacta est!
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited November 2008
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    That sucks.

    I have some of those binding posts laying around, let me know if you want one and I ll drop it in the mail.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited November 2008
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    I've got some spares(vampire) and odds/ends, let me know if you need one or two--george
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
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    Code Blue






    BTW the auto correction on this board sucks, can't make it caps. But I still around the members here make up for any BS here. ;)

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  • Ern Dog
    Ern Dog Posts: 2,237
    edited November 2008
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    I could Fedex you a 6 pack of beer, let me know.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,855
    edited November 2008
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    Looks like a real Mickey Mouse job. What speakers are those? I want to make sure I never buy any.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited November 2008
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    what speakers are those?
    vmps
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,855
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    Thanks.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
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    F1nut wrote: »
    Looks like a real Mickey Mouse job. What speakers are those? I want to make sure I never buy any.

    Smart ****.;)

    If you got the balls, open up your speakers, take a few pics of the guts, and post it here so we can assess the build quality.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited November 2008
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    Well any progress?
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,855
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    LOL...I think I have posted pics before, but if not I'm sure we all know what the insides of SDA's look like.

    That looks like a **** of a job, good luck.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • HB27
    HB27 Posts: 1,518
    edited November 2008
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    Most of this type issue stems from the larger wire requirements. The hole in the binding post is so large that there is little wall on the threaded post and it's very weak. I use banana connectors whenever possible because of this.
    Good luck on the fix.
    Harry
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
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    F1nut wrote: »
    LOL...I think I have posted pics before, but if not I'm sure we all know what the insides of SDA's look like.

    You got SDA's? My goodness, what a POS. Low quality parts throughout. Remind me never to buy them. :eek::p:eek:
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
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    ben62670 wrote: »
    Well any progress?

    No. I need your help on this one. Plus, I need your assistance in running another dedicated line. I bought the supplies today.

    I'll call you tomorrow afternoon.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
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    george daniel wrote: »
    I've got some spares(vampire) and odds/ends, let me know if you need one or two--george

    I'll take you up on your offer, George. Thanks! I'll call you tomorrow, as well.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,855
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    Early B. wrote: »
    You got SDA's? My goodness, what a POS. Low quality parts throughout. Remind me never to buy them. :eek::p:eek:

    Eh, I can change the binding posts with no problem. ;)
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
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    Hey man if you are going to Georges let me know. I want in on this trip. It's a week earlier than we planned, but we can fix it at my place?
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
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    ben62670 wrote: »
    Hey man if you are going to Georges let me know. I want in on this trip. It's a week earlier than we planned, but we can fix it at my place?

    Nope. I want you to come here on Monday or Tuesaday evening, if possible.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
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    I have the kids a lot this week. Monday, and Tuesday are out for sure. I'll scratch my head a bit. I did call your new phone, and left a message.
    Ben
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
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    ben62670 wrote: »
    I have the kids a lot this week. Monday, and Tuesday are out for sure. I'll scratch my head a bit. I did call your new phone, and left a message.
    Ben

    OK, I gotta figure out how to retrieve a message on this phone. Give me a moment...

    (scratches head a bit...)
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,092
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    :confused: Third pic, lower right....................why does the wood look like it's been smoldering? Your doing..............trying to do the repair or the x-over doing........going up in smoke?

    GL...........looks like a challenge
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,560
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    Looks like wood reworking is in order. The way they framed around the connections
    means you'll have to separate the pieces to get to it. The
    blackened part looks like someone had to squeeze a soldering iron in close.
    I'd pry it apart before even starting. IT looks like a little black spray paint
    on the back side before buttoning up should hide your handywork.
    PITA for sure. Good luck. I think Ben can handle it. Just keep him away
    from any accelerants.:D
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
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    Hey EarlyB,

    Here's some information that might your help your speaker problems.

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    Ask for Emerald Physics and tell him Mike sent you. . .
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
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    Well I just got back from the simple binding posts change:rolleyes: He said it would be tough. I laughed to myself:D Then I was there for a while:o Then a while longer:( Toward the end:mad: but we finished:cool: I will not tell you how long it took, but what a friggen nightmare. After spending a bit of time visiting we did finally get to listen to some tunes. I tell you what those tube amps he has did change any reservations about the ability of a tube amp to reproduce snappy, fast, hard hitting bass. I never expected what I heard. Those tube amps teamed with a Placete Passive Pre, and a modded tubed CD player absolutely blew my mind!
    We did not get to adding the separate circuits. We ran out of gas.That will be a project for another day;)

    Ben
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
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    ben62670 wrote: »
    Well I just got back from the simple binding posts change:rolleyes: He said it would be tough. I laughed to myself:D Then I was there for a while:o Then a while longer:( Toward the end:mad: but we finished:cool: I will not tell you how long it took, but what a friggen nightmare.

    Here's the final pic of the binding posts from hell... Everything that could go wrong, went wrong. Anyway, the job is done and I gotta thank Ben for his patience and persistence.


    P.S. -- when my speakers were built it was a good marketing ploy for manufacturers to say their speakers are wired internally with Monster, but we ran into some problems with it.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
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    Hey, that's pretty damn good looking. You gonna replace the posts on the other speaker as well?
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
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    SolidSqual wrote: »
    Hey, that's pretty damn good looking. You gonna replace the posts on the other speaker as well?

    Hell, no!!!
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
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    Early B. wrote: »
    Hell, no!!!

    Wow you really have changed . . . the non-uniformity would bug the hell out of me. I would have broken everyone of the binding posts off to put new ones on.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
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    I brought over an extra set of post to do the other speaker, and I really wanted to do it, but after what we went through it is not going to be done anytime soon. That job put a hurtin on me!
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
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    SolidSqual wrote: »
    Wow you really have changed . . . the non-uniformity would bug the hell out of me. I would have broken everyone of the binding posts off to put new ones on.

    SS -- you must be suffering from a temporary case of ADD. This thread is about the binding posts that seemed attached to the devil's ****. It took an act of God to replace them. Now do you want me to go through that experience three more times?
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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