Would the RD0198-1 tweeter be an upgrade over the SL2500 in my Monitor 12s ?

thsmith
thsmith Posts: 6,082
edited February 2009 in Vintage Speakers
Would the RD0198-1 tweeter be an upgrade over the SL2500 in my Monitor 12s ?

Not that there is anything wrong with the tweeters just curious ?

Thanks,
Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited November 2008
    I don't think there is a replacement. The RDO-194 replaces the SL2000 and the 198 the SL3000. You might want to ping Polk/CS and ask. Heck they may still carry the 2500.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited November 2008
    Ron Temple wrote: »
    I don't think there is a replacement. The RDO-194 replaces the SL2000 and the 198 the SL3000. You might want to ping Polk/CS and ask. Heck they may still carry the 2500.

    Thanks Ron, I talked with Ken and he said the RD0198-1 was the replacement.

    Just curious what others had experienced.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,214
    edited November 2008
    It's my understanding the RD0194-1 replaces the sl2000 and sl2500. The RD0198-1 replaces the sl3000.

    Call Polk CS ask for Ken to know for sure or maybe someone who is 100% sure will chime in.

    I'm 95% sure but I'm too lazy to search for the thread.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited November 2008
    heiney9 wrote: »
    It's my understanding the RD0194-1 replaces the sl2000 and sl2500. The RD0198-1 replaces the sl3000.

    That was always my understanding. I enjoyed the upgrade to both the 194 and the 198 in my different speakers and think it is very much worth it.
    Jake
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited November 2008
    Ok, originally spoke with Ken but called back to reconfirm and got Helen who is a very nice lady, Ken was on the phone and could not speak to him.

    According to Polk, the RD0198-1 is the same Tweeter as the SL2500 but has the Voice Coil from the SL3000.

    Anyway, I ordered them and will listen for the difference.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,746
    edited November 2008
    sl1000/sl2000 - rd0194-1
    sl2500/sl3000 - rd0198-1


    Justin, why can't a get the caps to work properly???
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited November 2008
    f1nut wrote: »
    justin, why can't a get the caps to work properly???
    I believe it's for when people type with caps lock on, it will automatically reduce the text to lower case. More trouble than what it's worth IMO and it obviously doesn't work correctly all the time.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • agfrost
    agfrost Posts: 2,430
    edited November 2008
    My member join date reflects when I came here, seeking replacement tweets for the sl2500's in my Monitor 5jr+.

    I did call Ken to order the RD0198, and I found that the sonic improvement was not subtle in my 5jr+'s . They now are pulling duty in my RTA 11TL in place of the original SL3000. F1Nut's replacement list above is correct.

    Sidenote: Jesse (F1Nut) was first to reply to my thread back in 2005 and he invited me to stick around. Still here!

    Cheers,
    Jay
    Jay
    SDA 2BTL * Musical Fidelity A5cr amp * Oppo BDP-93 * Modded Adcom GDA-600 DAC * Rythmik F8 (x2)
    Micro Seiki DQ-50 * Hagerman Cornet 2 Phono * A hodgepodge of cabling * Belkin PF60
    Preamp rotation: Krell KSL (SCompRacer recapped) * Manley Shrimp * PS Audio 5.0
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  • Braddles
    Braddles Posts: 228
    edited November 2008
    thsmith wrote: »
    Ok, originally spoke with Ken but called back to reconfirm and got Helen who is a very nice lady, Ken was on the phone and could not speak to him.

    According to Polk, the RD0198-1 is the same Tweeter as the SL2500 but has the Voice Coil from the SL3000.

    Anyway, I ordered them and will listen for the difference.

    Looking forward to your report on the difference.
    2 Channel
    Amp - Jas Audio Bravo 3.2 set
    Power Cord - Tunami GPX
    CDP - Marantz cd6002 - Audio gd Ref 5 Dac
    Speakers - Tekton Lore,Polk Audio RTA11tl completely refreshed.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,746
    edited November 2008
    agfrost wrote: »
    Sidenote: Jesse (F1Nut) was first to reply to my thread back in 2005 and he invited me to stick around. Still here!

    Certain detractors of mine are going to have stroke after reading that.....LOL


    I'm glad you stayed and thanks for your contributions to the family.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • agfrost
    agfrost Posts: 2,430
    edited November 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    Certain detractors of mine are going to have stroke after reading that.....LOL


    I'm glad you stayed and thanks for your contributions to the family.

    By my count, I've made roughly 16,000 fewer contributions to the family than you. A belated thanks for the 2005 welcome, though. This board is certainly better than most.

    I'll stop with the thread hijack now. thsmith, do report back in with your impressions once you've burned in the new silks.
    Jay
    SDA 2BTL * Musical Fidelity A5cr amp * Oppo BDP-93 * Modded Adcom GDA-600 DAC * Rythmik F8 (x2)
    Micro Seiki DQ-50 * Hagerman Cornet 2 Phono * A hodgepodge of cabling * Belkin PF60
    Preamp rotation: Krell KSL (SCompRacer recapped) * Manley Shrimp * PS Audio 5.0
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  • ozzy21236
    ozzy21236 Posts: 100
    edited November 2008
    I'm also curious as to how you like the new tweets as I have just recently procured a pair of M12s
    Technics SL1210mkll / AT125LC / Cambridge Audio 640P / Yamaha TX-950 / Onkyo TA-2600 / Yamaha C-80 pre/Adcom GFA 545 / Polk Audio Monitor 12 Series 2
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited November 2008
    Never have had an issue with the 2500s.
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    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited November 2008
    Received the RD0s yesterday and installed them, no issues.

    Have about 6 hours time running them. Have not reran Audessy yet but initial listening thoughts were they are much warmer or less bright than the SL2500s but by the time I went to bed either they got brighter or I was getting use to them.

    I thought the SL2500s were a little scratchy on stuff like the new AC DC CD. I tested the RDOs listening to the new AC DC and found the sound to be crisper and cleaner. Actually enjoyed the CD last night where previously I had not.

    I will rerun Audessy this weekend and do some more listening but early indications are they are indeed an improvement.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited November 2008
    Congrats with the new tweeters and I'm glad you are liking them. Suggested burn in time is 100 hours, so keep on trucking and they will continue to open up.
    Jake
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  • plastic_avatar
    plastic_avatar Posts: 708
    edited February 2009
    zingo wrote: »
    Suggested burn in time is 100 hours, so keep on trucking and they will continue to open up.

    No kidding? I honestly never thought about drivers having a burn in time :o

    So much more to learn :eek:
    The Thrifty Setups in Mah House Big thrifty stereo in the basement w/ my custom SDA-1C (built with help from kind forum members) * Beautiful 1966 MCM GE console upgraded w/ Bluetooth, Dual turntable, and Paradigm speakers in family room * Swanky 1980 Realistic system and great TEAC eq with dancing colored lights in the living room * custom 5B on a system for my Dad * Ye Olde college stereo in the garage
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2009
    It took mine well over 100 hrs to "break-in."
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited February 2009
    but the improvement was noticed immediately;)
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2009
    thsmith wrote: »
    but the improvement was noticed immediately;)

    That is true but they sounded a little hollow until around 35 hrs.
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  • plastic_avatar
    plastic_avatar Posts: 708
    edited February 2009
    thsmith wrote: »
    but the improvement was noticed immediately;)

    [LOL]

    So, is there a preferred method of burn in?

    Like moving stuff to the garage and letting iTunes play through them for 6 days at X volume while on shuffle?
    The Thrifty Setups in Mah House Big thrifty stereo in the basement w/ my custom SDA-1C (built with help from kind forum members) * Beautiful 1966 MCM GE console upgraded w/ Bluetooth, Dual turntable, and Paradigm speakers in family room * Swanky 1980 Realistic system and great TEAC eq with dancing colored lights in the living room * custom 5B on a system for my Dad * Ye Olde college stereo in the garage
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited February 2009
    I just used my system, for me I did not notice any changes overtime, the RDO198s just sounded great since installing.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2009
    plastic_avatar wrote: »
    [LOL]

    So, is there a preferred method of burn in?

    Like moving stuff to the garage and letting iTunes play through them for 6 days at X volume while on shuffle?

    When I wasn't listening to them I ran a full range music CD in a loop at a moderate volume.
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