Interesting letter from MF...amp power

Ron Temple
Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
edited November 2008 in 2 Channel Audio
Well he sells them, but it makes sense to me...

http://www.musicalfidelity.com/news/letter.html

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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited November 2008
    Ron Temple wrote: »
    Well he sells them, but it makes sense to me...

    http://www.musicalfidelity.com/news/letter.html

    I don't know why he had to explain the product line.
    That's a gimme. The amp power thing was interesting.
    There's certainly enough people here that would agree with that!
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited November 2008
    Reads like typical audio marketing jibberish to me.

    500 watts are needed to really crank it up without an amp clipping??? That's a wild blanket statement. There are about 100 other variables to consider.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited November 2008
    I read about 2 sentences before I became uninterested.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • bknauss
    bknauss Posts: 1,441
    edited November 2008
    More clean power is always better, but at some point you're hitting diminishing returns.

    As for the letter, lots of numbers were thrown around without explaining how they came to that conclusion.
    Brian Knauss
    ex-Electrical Engineer for Polk
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited November 2008
    Good read but then I own Musical Fidelity gear and am biased.
  • fossy
    fossy Posts: 1,378
    edited November 2008
    Reading through the 750K power amp manual it says that they are to be placed in between an existing amp & the speakers ???

    Anybody try one of these yet ???
  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited November 2008
    Heard a pair going on around a year ago. They were just hooked up as normal monoblocks & sounded more or less like the kW.

    MF's marketing on these is bizarre- They're just monoblocks with an ugly chassis and speaker level inputs.

    Anyhow, for the article, nothing new here- for truly huge dynamics, you need one or more of the following:
    Short distance to your speakers
    High efficiency
    Tons of power

    I'm a little amused that their slide rule starts at 80db and only goes to 93. I can't remember the last time I heard any speakers under about 85db, but there's tons that can deliver over 95db these days.
    Gallo Ref 3.1 : Bryston 4b SST : Musical fidelity CD Pre : VPI HW-19
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,572
    edited November 2008
    Antony may march to the beat of a different drummer, but damn he makes some super fine gear.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited November 2008
    Well he has been consistent on the power recommendation for at least the last 10 years. No doubt MF is a fine audio company and they put thought into how each circuit is laid out.

    I will still trust in my ears as to what I like despite what any manufacturer may state as some audio absolute. They have not let me down so far.

    RT1

    RT1
  • Polkitup2
    Polkitup2 Posts: 1,622
    edited November 2008
    Audio Advisor is selling the MF 550 Supercharger for half price now. Must not be selling well. I'd love to try a pair with my A1.
  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited November 2008
    $2500 a pair! Damn, that's tempting... and oddly, the same price at the demo they have up.
    Gallo Ref 3.1 : Bryston 4b SST : Musical fidelity CD Pre : VPI HW-19
    Gallo Ref AV, Frankengallo Ref 3, LC60i : Bryston 9b SST : Meridian 565
    Jordan JX92s : MF X-T100 : Xray v8
    Backburner:Krell KAV-300i