Using DVD Fab HD Decrypter

audiobliss
audiobliss Posts: 12,518
edited November 2008 in The Clubhouse
Ok, so I just downloaded and installed DVD Fab HD Decrypter and am trying to rip 300 to my hard drive.

So far, DVD Fab seems to be VERY capable and VERY user friendly. However, I haven't figured it out completely. First off, I just want to rip it to my HD for playback on my PC, not transfer it to a device or DVD. (Though in the not too distant future I would like to be able burn it to a DVD and/or sync it to my iPod.) I've also been selecting to rip just the movie itself. However, the main question here is the audio. There are five audio sections listed, three of them in English. Two of the English options are both AC-3/2, and then one that is AC-3/5.1.

Why are there two AC-3/2 files? I ripped it the first time with all the English ones selected, and got commentary. I don't want the commentary. Which is which?
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited October 2008
    Wow, this is an awesome program. I just realized that you can highlight any audio file you want, as well as any caption file you want, and it'll change the preview window in real time so you can see exactly what changes you're making.

    So, now I've figured out the audio track as well as the subtitles.

    However, now, how good is this program, really? Is it actually good enough for me to pay them $50 or so to unlock it and get the full version?
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
    In Use
    PS3, Yamaha CDR-HD1300, Plex, Amazon Fire TV Gen 2
    Pioneer Elite VSX-52, Parasound HCA-1000A
    Klipsch RF-82ii, RC-62ii, RS-42ii, RW-10d
    Epson 8700UB
    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
    Klipsch RF-35, RB-51ii
    [Car Audio]
    Pioneer Premier DEH-P860MP, Memphis 16-MCA3004, Boston Acoustic RC520
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited October 2008
    Why don't you want to use free software? DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink are both good.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited October 2008
    Well, I started out with DVD Fab because I read through searching the forum that it was good and initially thought it was free and then discovered the free version was really a 30 day trial version.

    If DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink are both good options, I'll certainly look into those. Thanks!
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
    In Use
    PS3, Yamaha CDR-HD1300, Plex, Amazon Fire TV Gen 2
    Pioneer Elite VSX-52, Parasound HCA-1000A
    Klipsch RF-82ii, RC-62ii, RS-42ii, RW-10d
    Epson 8700UB
    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
    Klipsch RF-35, RB-51ii
    [Car Audio]
    Pioneer Premier DEH-P860MP, Memphis 16-MCA3004, Boston Acoustic RC520
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited October 2008
    Unless something changed (I haven't used it in a while), DVD Fab does have a free version. They usually make you hunt it down on their website but I've never had to pay for it and have had it for way more than 30 days.

    Go here for free products.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,715
    edited October 2008
    Sami wrote: »
    Why don't you want to use free software? DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink are both good.

    DVD Fab Decrypter is free. The original free DVD Decrypter hasn't been updated in years and it has problems with many of the newer copy protection schemes. I had to switch to Fab about 2-3 years ago. Its updated regularly and has never had a problem getting clean, playable rips.
    For rig details, see my profile. Nothing here anymore...
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited October 2008
    audiobliss wrote: »
    Is it actually good enough for me to pay them $50 or so to unlock it and get the full version?

    Yes if you're going to get some use out of it.

    I've been using DVD Fab (non-HD version) for a couple years. It's an awesome program.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited October 2008
    I think you guys are right that it's free. It seems as though the program I downlaoded and installed is DVD Fab for free, with the Platinum version available for 30 days. Seems as though I misinterpreted that.

    I definitely like DVD Fab's interface better than anything else I've used so far, and depending on how the features work out comparing to each other, I *might* end up paying for it.

    However, when I rip a DVD, I end up with four or five .vob files. I'd rather end up with just ONE file to play. I'm assuming the resulting .vob files are meant to be burned to a DVD and have something to do with different chapters/sections somehow. But there should be a way to get just one final video file, too, right?

    Thanks so much for all the responses!
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
    In Use
    PS3, Yamaha CDR-HD1300, Plex, Amazon Fire TV Gen 2
    Pioneer Elite VSX-52, Parasound HCA-1000A
    Klipsch RF-82ii, RC-62ii, RS-42ii, RW-10d
    Epson 8700UB
    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
    Klipsch RF-35, RB-51ii
    [Car Audio]
    Pioneer Premier DEH-P860MP, Memphis 16-MCA3004, Boston Acoustic RC520
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,771
    edited October 2008
    DVD Fab is basically just for removing the encryption. Which by the way is illegal, even if you own the disc. That's one reason I would not purchase it, no need for them to have my name when they are forced to hand over their customer list, much like DVDXCopy was years ago.

    After DVD Fab, I burn the disc to a DVD-RW, and then use Alcohol 100% to rip the DVD to my hard drive. It creates a virtual DVD-Rom drive that will then play all the "DVD's" ripped to your drive. I'm sure there are other programs that will do something similar. You could also convert the VOB files into AVI's, which will also make them one continuous file.
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited October 2008
    Both DVD Shrink and DVD Encrypter have ISO option (image file), most likely Fab has something similar. If not, then just create an image by other means.

    DVD has two folders, AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS, the files created by Fab go into VIDEO_TS folder.
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  • John30_30
    John30_30 Posts: 1,024
    edited October 2008
    audiobliss wrote: »
    I think you guys are right that it's free. It seems as though the program I downlaoded and installed is DVD Fab for free, with the Platinum version available for 30 days. Seems as though I misinterpreted that.

    I definitely like DVD Fab's interface better than anything else I've used so far, and depending on how the features work out comparing to each other, I *might* end up paying for it.

    However, when I rip a DVD, I end up with four or five .vob files. I'd rather end up with just ONE file to play. I'm assuming the resulting .vob files are meant to be burned to a DVD and have something to do with different chapters/sections somehow. But there should be a way to get just one final video file, too, right?

    Thanks so much for all the responses!

    The VOB's, IFO's, and BUP's are native dvd format. VOB's are the movie, the others are text menus.
    You mentioned wanting to play it on your iPod, which would use a compressed format that converts the native dvd files into a single compressed file. Naturally, menus are lost in the process.
    The P.C. Windows freeware(audio-video codec) is xvid, which shows up as an .avi file. I think iPods can read that.
    I'm not sure, but I think DVD-fab can convert as well as rip. If not, it's not worth much since DVD Decrypter and DVDShrink are freeware and rule.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,771
    edited October 2008
    If not, it's not worth much since DVD Decrypter and DVDShrink are freeware and rule.

    DVD shrink is still the best at reducing the size, but neither program has been updated in over three years, This makes them pretty much useless for decrypting newer DVD's. That's the benefit of DVD Fab.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited October 2008
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    DVD Fab is basically just for removing the encryption. Which by the way is illegal, even if you own the disc. That's one reason I would not purchase it, no need for them to have my name when they are forced to hand over their customer list, much like DVDXCopy was years ago.

    Yeah, cause that happens all the time :rolleyes:.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited October 2008
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    DVD shrink is still the best at reducing the size, but neither program has been updated in over three years, This makes them pretty much useless for decrypting newer DVD's. That's the benefit of DVD Fab.

    Actually I've used both DVD shrink and DVD Fab and I prefer DVD Fab. But I admit the version of DVD Shrink I have is a couple years old so maybe the newer versions are better.

    YMMV

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,771
    edited October 2008
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Actually I've used both DVD shrink and DVD Fab and I prefer DVD Fab. But I admit the version of DVD Shrink I have is a couple years old so maybe the newer versions are better.

    YMMV

    H9

    To use the shrink feature of DVD Fab you do need to purchase the platinum version though. DVD Shrink does the same for free.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited November 2008
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    DVD shrink is still the best at reducing the size, but neither program has been updated in over three years, This makes them pretty much useless for decrypting newer DVD's. That's the benefit of DVD Fab.

    I find that DVD43, which is a little tray icon program that defeats the protection on DVDs as soon as you insert them, works for those DVDs that Shrink normally wouldn't be able to handle.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited November 2008
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    To use the shrink feature of DVD Fab you do need to purchase the platinum version though. DVD Shrink does the same for free.

    Ah, guess I never paid that much attention. Then for those who want to do it on the cheap DVD Shrink is the way to go.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited November 2008
    DVD Shrink is also good when you want to get only selected chapters of the movie, not the whole movie...

    Why would you? Hmmm, ****... ;)
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited November 2008
    Sami wrote: »
    DVD Shrink is also good when you want to get only selected chapters of the movie, not the whole movie...

    Why would you? Hmmm, ****... ;)

    DVD Fab allows that too and actually, IMO, it's a little easier to use.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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