Ideal center speaker for STA-11t?

absolutbryan
absolutbryan Posts: 10
edited October 2008 in Vintage Speakers
I know that Polk recommends the CSi5 center speaker for the RTA-11t's but they are not in my budget. I can not find any really good deals on them right now. I have found a reasonable price for a CSi3. I have read that it is very important to voice match the L-R speakers with the center and I can understand why but I just wanted to know if anyone out there had any experience with the combination I am thinking about. I have owned the RTA's since they come out 1989 and have been so happy with the speaker that I am going to setup my first surrond sound system with them.


Thanks in advance!
Bryan
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited October 2008
    To ideally match your RTA-11t's, you would want to use the same tweeter, the SL2000. The best way would be to find an older pair of classic Polks with the SL2000 and us one of them or both as your center.

    If you can't ideally match the speakers, the CSi3 will probably do you fine. I had a mis-matched Polk HT for a while and it still sounded good.
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited October 2008
    I have the RTA 8T's & use a Boston Accustics CC. It sounds fine to me. I'm sure the CSI 3 will do just fine.
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  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited October 2008
    I have a pair of RTA 11T's and have owned both the CSi3 and CSi5. The CSi5 is a much better center channel IMO. I still own a CSi5 and it gets the job done with out breaking a sweat.

    Scott
    I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
  • absolutbryan
    absolutbryan Posts: 10
    edited October 2008
    MillerLite....using the CSi5 made a noticeable difference (or should I say less noticeable)? I am not pushing the speakers with anything grossly overpowering. 125 RMS 5.1 Pioneer AV reciever 918. I bought the RTA's though AAFES when I was stationed in Germany and people are still amazed at how good they sound almost 20 years later. Browsing though the posts a see a bunch of people updating the tweeters and "recapping the crossover". How do I know when this needs to be done? I would guess that the tweeters would be obvious.

    Thanks,
    Bryan

    Bryan
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited October 2008
    MillerLite....using the CSi5 made a noticeable difference (or should I say less noticeable)? I am not pushing the speakers with anything grossly overpowering. 125 RMS 5.1 Pioneer AV reciever 918. I bought the RTA's though AAFES when I was stationed in Germany and people are still amazed at how good they sound almost 20 years later. Browsing though the posts a see a bunch of people updating the tweeters and "recapping the crossover". How do I know when this needs to be done? I would guess that the tweeters would be obvious.

    Thanks,
    Bryan

    Bryan

    The caps were standard caps even when new. Upgrade caps are better than new. Change the resistors too. The tweeters don't age to well.
    BTW welcome to Club Polk.
    Ben
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    Thanks
    Ben
  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited October 2008
    I have the RTA 11t's with the RDO 194's in my bedroom and I use the CSi5 with a pair of modded SDA 2B's and what I really should have said is the CSi5 has a much fuller sound than the CSi3. The CSi3 left me wanting more and the CSi5 still surprises me a year later how full and powerful it is.

    I would recommend getting the new tweeters and enjoy your RTA 11t's for a while and then if you feel the need get the new caps and resisters. I am going to order some Sonicaps for mine and Mills resisters while Sonicraft is running their 15% discount till the end of the month.

    Scott
    I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
  • absolutbryan
    absolutbryan Posts: 10
    edited October 2008
    Do you know the parts numbers for the resisters and the capacitors from Sonicraft? They could not be to exspensive. To order the tweeters do I just call Polk?

    Thanks,
    Bryan
  • absolutbryan
    absolutbryan Posts: 10
    edited October 2008
    Where can I get a systematic for the RTA-11t speaker? I have not had much success searching the forum. I have enough experience with a soldering iron to figure this one out.

    Thanks,
    Bryan
  • absolutbryan
    absolutbryan Posts: 10
    edited October 2008
    OK called Polk and of course they have the tweeters. I found the systemics in another post (Club Polk rocks!) and I looked up the caps distributor online. Wow caps are normally cheap but those Sonicaps are pricey!!! Resistors are cheap. Now I just have to wait until I see a CSi5 on Polk eBay store!

    Thanks All!!!
    Bryan
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited October 2008
    A great place to get quality, budget caps and resistors is Parts Express. Sonicaps are some of the best, but also cost a pretty penny as you are aware.
  • absolutbryan
    absolutbryan Posts: 10
    edited October 2008
    per the systemic here is the parts list per speaker

    2 - 12uF caps
    1- 34uF cap
    1 - 0.4 ohm resistor
    1 - 2.0 ohm resistor w/polyswitch

    Now my ignorance is going to really show! How do you get the 34uf value in the higher end caps? Also the systemic show two types of caps, film(mylar?) and electrolytic. I am assuming that film are fine for all of them?

    Thanks for the education!,
    Bryan
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited October 2008
    per the systemic here is the parts list per speaker

    2 - 12uF caps
    1- 34uF cap
    1 - 0.4 ohm resistor
    1 - 2.0 ohm resistor w/polyswitch

    Now my ignorance is going to really show! How do you get the 34uf value in the higher end caps? Also the systemic show two types of caps, film(mylar?) and electrolytic. I am assuming that film are fine for all of them?

    Thanks for the education!,
    Bryan

    You can use two caps stacked to get your 34 uf. Say a 16uf+18uf will give you 34uf. I just use Dayton's for the big caps. Also use a quality resistor like the Mill's 12 watt.
    Ben
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    Thanks
    Ben
  • absolutbryan
    absolutbryan Posts: 10
    edited October 2008
    Thanks Ben! Stacked meaning in parallel?

    Thanks
    Bryan
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited October 2008
    Thanks Ben! Stacked meaning in parallel?

    Thanks
    Bryan

    yes:)
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited October 2008
    per the systemic here is the parts list per speaker

    2 - 12uF caps
    1- 34uF cap
    1 - 0.4 ohm resistor
    1 - 2.0 ohm resistor w/polyswitch

    Now my ignorance is going to really show! How do you get the 34uf value in the higher end caps? Also the systemic show two types of caps, film(mylar?) and electrolytic. I am assuming that film are fine for all of them?

    Thanks for the education!,
    Bryan


    Absolutbryan,

    It looks like you have listed a 0.4 ohm resistor which is actually the value for the inductor. The proper value for that resister is 2.7 ohm I believe.

    Scott
    I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
  • absolutbryan
    absolutbryan Posts: 10
    edited October 2008
    Oh.....Yes thank you Scott! LOL I think I was looking at the inductor!

    Bryan