Finally: SDA SRS II in the house

HB27

Long road trip today but I finally nailed a very very nice pair of SDA SRS II.
Super condition, well taken care of, and working properly.
Condition is a 9 out of 10. A couple of ultra small scratches on top of one of the cabinets and a bit of dust is all. The dust will clean off and the scratches are so small a good oiling may take them out. These are veneer not vinyl. Grills are dusty but basically perfect. They fit perfect on my small wall. Exactly 6' apart and 6" off the wall so I can get tweeter path clearance between the cabinets.
I've waited a long time.
It's worth the wait.
Harry

HB27

Thank you. It's been a 2 year wait trying to find a nice pair in reasonable driving distance and reasonably priced.
Harry

HB27

Blade/Blade all original. I've got to start studying up on the crossover w/new Sonicaps now.

NJPOLKER

Hey Harry
Congrats!! I have SRSII's also and they are super. I think you should listen to them for awhile with the SL-2000 then drop in the RDO's. When you are ready to do the x-over we'll help you out.
What equipment are you using to supply those bad boys?
Again, Congratulations and good luck.
Drew

HB27

Well, I WAS wanting to use my MC75 monoblocks but I'm not ready to tackle any mods concerning blade/blade and my monoblocks. I've got to check into it pretty thoroughly
Right now I'm using a vintage 125wpc Epicure 1 amp and Juicy Music Merlin pre. Listening to mostly vinyl in the evenings and CD in the daytime while working.
I really have few issues with the SL-2000 with tube gear. It's not great but it's not bad. I'll do the caps first and then decide on the tweeters.
Thanks,
Harry

m00npie

They look great. I look forward to the day that I get mine setup in the new listening room.

I replaced my 2000's right away with the RDO-194. Once I get them setup again, I'll plan to do the crossover upgrade.

HB27

Honestly I haven't heard the RDO-194 tweeters. Are they significantly better than the SL-2000? I know the SL-2000 has a couple of rough spots around on top especially when run on SS.
I'll be switching over to a tube amp tomorrow. I wanted to make sure I had all my ducks in a row before I hooked up the good tube amps. I've been working on acquiring these for a couple of weeks but I really didn't think I'd get them.
Tx,
Harry

ben62670

The SL2000's can be a good tweeter, but they don't age well. The spike is at about 12k, and that's where my ears roll off. If you are not getting fatigue now when listening you should do the XO's first. Most of the SL2000's I had were "scratchy sounding, and fatigue set in quickly.
Ben

HB27

Ben,
Mine are a very tame on the top end. They're definitely due for fresh caps. Clarity and detail are gone. No "Sparkling" highs.
Thank you

ben62670

If they aren't annoying like a mosquito in your ear, or causing fatigue go with the caps first. You will want to get the RDO's before you can't. They should be around for a while, but they are still replacements for a 20+ year old speakers....

HB27

Yea,
I never thought about the supply of the RDO-94 being finite. I guess all good things must come to an end.
I'd better pull the couch cushions looking for a couple hundred extra bucks for the tweeters while I'm at it. Thanks for the insight.
Harry

heiney9

RD0's really are better, by alot, IMO. But have fun with what you have for awhile, Sadly blade/blade cannot be modified to use mono blocks. Your only hope is if the mono's can be strapped.

heiney9

ben62670 wrote: »

The SL2000's can be a good tweeter, but they don't age well. The spike is at about 12k, and that's where my ears roll off. If you are not getting fatigue now when listening you should do the XO's first. Most of the SL2000's I had were "scratchy sounding, and fatigue set in quickly.
Ben

In my case the better x-over parts made the sl2000's completely unlistenable

heiney9

BTW, congrats on a great SDA speaker. You should enjoy them a lot.

HB27

heiney9 wrote: »

RD0's really are better, by alot, IMO. But have fun with what you have for awhile, Sadly blade/blade cannot be modified to use mono blocks. Your only hope is if the mono's can be strapped.

It's not like I can't use a different amp instead of the MC75s. I've just got a "thing" for mono blocks. There's plenty of good amplification available. I actually like the sound of the Epicure. I could live with it with the tube Merlin pre with no regrets.
Who's got a crossover parts list for the SRS 2 available? I'd like to keep them together as long as I can. I'll get the tweeters ordered this week if I can swing a few extra bucks.
Thanks,
Harry

ben62670

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55888
Here you go:) BTW I use mono blocks for my SDA's with no issues. You need to find out if you can tie the amps' speaker grounds together;)

HB27

Thank you again. I'd already found the link for the SRS schematic. Just a lazy guy's hope for a parts list. I'll concentrate on the crossovers first, then the new tweeters, then investigate the monoblock grounding. I like to do things one at a time. I get too confused if I have to think much anymore.
Harry

HB27

I got up at 4:30 and started on these. Well, I found out where the highs went to. My left channel lower tweeter was dead (Blue and white wires). The guy I bought these from threw in a pair of SL-2000 tweeters he had and I changed it out. The top end came back quite a bit. Next I jumped the right polyswitch and there was a big difference. Then the left. GEEZ, I see what you mean about the SL-2000. They get quite nasty. Time for polyswitches and RDO-194s UNLESS the good old Peerless will work. I've got 2 good dimples put back and 2 in my M10s I could cannabilize. Are the Peerless interchangeable with the SL-2000?
You guys are great. Thank you
Harry

ben62670

The peerless has a smaller bezel than the RDO's. I would just bypass the Poly-switches if you are careful with the volume control.
Ben

HB27

Ben, I'm in an apartment and volume levels stay low unless we get into a pi..ing contest on weekends. I would have noticed the Peerless being a different size eventually. Saved me more surprises.
Tx again,
Harry

concealer404

Nice find! They look really good.

Now.... what'd you do with the speakers they replaced?

zingo

If you are recaping the x-overs and need to tame the SL2000s, why not just cap them! :eek::p:eek:

artinaz

Congrats Harry! I got myself a pair of them too last week and I am loving it. I just ordered the replacement tweeters. Yours seem to be in much better shape than mine.

If you decide to do the x-over mod, could you please please let me know how to go about it ?

Thanks,

Azi

bikezappa

You probably have already done this but I like to experiment with the sitting position distance and speaker placement in the room. For kicks and chuckles try sitting closer than normal and closing your eyes while listening to some tunes you like.

Have a blast.

HB27

concealer404 wrote: »

Nice find! They look really good.

Now.... what'd you do with the speakers they replaced?

I put them in the second bedroom with a Crown DC300A and the Adcom GTP-400 pre with the old Denon Alpha CDP.
Thanks

HB27

bikezappa wrote: »

You probably have already done this but I like to experiment with the sitting position distance and speaker placement in the room. For kicks and chuckles try sitting closer than normal and closing your eyes while listening to some tunes you like.

Have a blast.

Yep, I'm diggin' the SDA effect on some of my music I know very well.
Harry

engtaz

Congrats, very good speaker.

engtaz

HB27

zingo wrote: »

If you are recaping the x-overs and need to tame the SL2000s, why not just cap them! :eek::p:eek:

I'll be doing the xovers and tweeters too. No sense half-a..ing them. I'm going to put the SL-2000s in a box when the RDO-94s come in. Never know when a tweeter will come in handy.
Thanks,

Herfnwolf

I can't find any information for or pictures of an SDA SRS 2C.

How does it differ from this SRS 2?

Thanks
Dan

heiney9

No such thing as SDA SRS 2C.

It's SDA SRS 2 OR SDA 1C OR SDA 2B.

artinaz

Also, what is the difference between teh SDA SRS II with the pin-blade interconnects and the blade-blade interconnects ? [Since evryone asks these questions in a SRS II thread.] What does this difference translate to - are there any sonic differences ?