Speaker cable boxes?

NJPOLKER
NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
edited October 2008 in Vintage Speakers
I am thinking I may get a better response here than where I first posted it in Hook Ups Connections thread.
What are in the boxes used by the high end speaker cables? Gotta be gold based on the costs!
Thanks Drew

Example
http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?cablspkr&1228539477&/MIT-Shotgun-S2-BiWire-10'-Pair
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  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited October 2008
    There is magic inside those boxes:D
    I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited October 2008
    I am expecting someone to tell me to buy a pair and open them up if I am so curious.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited October 2008
    What Scott said and I'll add, it doesn't matter what's in them. It's what comes out at the speaker end, which is glorious.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited October 2008
    Yeah Yeah Yeah but whats in them? Ya gotta know. There is no way the folks around here don't know whats in them!
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited October 2008
    NJPOLKER wrote: »
    Yeah Yeah Yeah but whats in them? Ya gotta know. There is no way the folks around here don't know whats in them!

    If you buy me a set I'll tell you what's inside:)
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited October 2008
    I feel like a f ing dentist here.
    Oh well
    I think it was the Rolling Stones You Can't Always Get What You Want
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited October 2008
    You actually got an answer in your original post as to what's in Transparent's speaker wire box.

    There were a couple of sites with pictures of what was inside. A Vishay 26.7 ohm resistor and a 0.001uF capacitor. Total parts cost of less than $1.50.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited October 2008
    Bah humbug to you too.

    He was talking about MIT cables and I can assure you, they are nothing like Transparent cables, not to mention that the ones you refer to are very old examples.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited October 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    Bah humbug to you too.

    He was talking about MIT cables and I can assure you, they are nothing like Transparent cables, not to mention that the ones you refer to are very old examples.

    Why the attitude? I just told him what was in them.

    He may have used MIT as an example, but here was his question:
    What are in the boxes used by the high end speaker cables?

    Also, how can you assure me that the MIT's are nothing like the Transparents? Have you opened your's up? If so, please answer his question.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited October 2008
    William, it's a well known fact that you don't believe in cables. All I did was acknowledge that fact.

    Yes, I have seen more current photos of the insides. No, I have not opened mine. If I could tell you all that is inside an MIT network box I would, but I can't. What I can tell you is that MIT has a lot more stuff than Transparent has inside theirs. MIT also holds considerably more patents than Transparent.

    The bottom line here is that for the many of us who have tried MIT cables, that they do work magic. If it makes a difference to anyone, Matt Polk also thinks MIT cables are excellent.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited October 2008
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    You actually got an answer in your original post as to what's in Transparent's speaker wire box.

    There were a couple of sites with pictures of what was inside. A Vishay 26.7 ohm resistor and a 0.001uF capacitor. Total parts cost of less than $1.50.

    You wouldn't happen to have any links would you?
    Ben
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited October 2008
    I have a link, but it's 4 years old, and the pics are no longer up. It's also in Swedish:

    http://www.faktiskt.se/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2953&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

    I'm sure if you Gogle it, you can find more info.
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited October 2008
    Thanks Bill.
    Google isn't too much help. Most who can afford MIT's aren't too into DIY I guess. Basically what I can see is they are impedance matching with the R, and C going across from Pos to Neg. I'll do some calculations to see what .001uf, and 26.7r equates to. What I am speculating is the values are designed to offset the C, I, and R of the wires themselves to remove the possibility of the speaker wires coloration.
    Ben
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,204
    edited October 2008
    I just upgraded to MIT's with the "box" and the results were extremely favorable. After participating in Ricardo's MIT cable swap and having a chance to demo them in mys system I went out and bought a used pair.

    Mine are along the entry level of MIT cables but I am very very pleased I made the jump. The great thing about MIT is if you get them and don't like them you probably won't loose anything more than the shipping cost if you flip them.

    Seems like a no brainer to me ;)

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited October 2008
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Thanks Bill.
    Google isn't too much help. Most who can afford MIT's aren't too into DIY I guess. Basically what I can see is they are impedance matching with the R, and C going across from Pos to Neg. I'll do some calculations to see what .001uf, and 26.7r equates to. What I am speculating is the values are designed to offset the C, I, and R of the wires themselves to remove the possibility of the speaker wires coloration.
    Ben

    They are wired as a Zoebel network. Shouldn't affect frequency response at all.

    Would work well for impedance matching as well, if the manufacturer had any idea what amps and speakers you were using, and designed them specifically for that setup, which of course they don't.
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited October 2008
    That's why the impedance boxes are adjustable.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche