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  • Sumflow
    Sumflow Posts: 64
    edited February 2003
    Found this on the web.

    Tombstone (1993)

    Factual Errors: Curly Bill Brocious is shown as the leader of the "cowboys" prior to the arrival of the Earps. In truth, the "cowboy" band was under the control of "Old Man" Clanton until his death, during a rustling expedition into Mexico, about 1-1/2 years after the Earps arrived.

    Factual Errors: The 3 Earp brothers, Wyatt, Virgil, and Morgan are shown arriving in Tombstone. In truth, Wyatt, Virgil, and James Earp arrived together. At the time, Morgan was already en route, and Warren Earp would soon follow.

    Factual Errors: At the time of the Earp's arrival, Tombstone is portrayed as a prototypical (i.e. studio backlot) rowdy cowtown, with lots of new wooden buildings. It was, in fact, a mining boom town in the early stages of development. The few wooden buildings were outnumbered by adobe ones, which were in turn outnumbered by tents.

    Factual Errors: Upon arrival, the Earps are greeted by Johnny Behan, the sheriff of Cochise Country. When the Earps really arrived (1879), there was no Cochise County. Tombstone was still in Pima County and Charles Shidell was sheriff. Cochise County was gerrymandered out of Pima County in 1881, when Democrat Behan was appointed sheriff by the Democrat governor. Much of the history involved the conflicts between Republicans (miners, townspeople, the Earps) and Democrats (Behan, ranchers, the "cowboys").

    Anachronisms: Marshall Fred White is shown being killed after the Earps visit the Bird Cage Theatre. White was actually shot on an empty lot where the Bird Cage Theatre was later built.

    Factual Errors: Virgil and Morgan Earp were not ambushed during the same evening. Virgil was shot in December, 1881, Morgan was killed in March, 1882.

    Revealing mistakes: After Morgan dies from the gunshot wound, Wyatt goes outside into the rain, which is localized to 20 feet around him.

    Factual Errors: The Earps did not shoot at Ike Clanton in Fly's Photography studio.

    Factual Errors: Mattie Earp didn't die shortly after leaving Tombstone, but met up with Big Nose Kate and lived for another 8 years.

    Factual Errors: Numerous other errors regarding the lives of the Earps.

    Crew or equipment visible: As Marshall White steps up to Curly Bill, prior to Curly Bill shooting him, a wire is clearly visible emerging from his pant leg and trailing off camera. Presumably this is for the upcoming "shot in the chest" special effects.

    Incorrectly regarded as goofs: During the OK Corral gunfight, many people believe that Doc Holliday fires three shots from his shotgun without reloading. The third shot is in fact the second one again, filmed from a different angle. This is evidenced by the dead man receiving the same wounds in each frame.

    Incorrectly regarded as goofs: In the gun fight at the O.K. Corral, gun shots are being fired from all participants and yet the horse still rears at a blast from Doc Holliday's shotgun later in the battle. That gun was louder than the others, and possibly closer to the horse.

    Revealing mistakes: When White is shot, he turns and falls to the ground and the tube pumping fake blood from his gunshot wound is visible sticking out of the hole in his shirt.

    Anachronisms: In Tombstone a 50-star US flag is flying from a building (it should have had 38 stars).

    Continuity: When they are making their final ride to finish the cowboys, five riders are visible in one shot, but there should only be four (one had already been killed).
    "At the first bend, I had the clear sensation that Tazio had taken it badly and that we would end up in the ditch; I felt myself stiffen as I waited for the crunch. Instead, we found ourselves on the next straight with the car in a perfect position. I looked at him, his rugged face was calm, just as it always was, and certainly not the face of someone who had just escaped a hair-raising spin. I had the same sensation at the second bend. By the fourth or fifth bend I began to understand; in the meantime, I had noticed that through the entire bend Tazio did not lift his foot from the accelerator, and that, in fact, it was flat on the floor. As bend followed bend, I discovered his secret. Nuvolari entered the bend somewhat earlier than my driver's instinct would have told me to. But he went into the bend in an unusual way: with one movement he aimed the nose of the car at the inside edge, just where the curve itself started. His foot was flat down, and he had obviously changed down to the right gear before going through this fearsome rigmarole. In this way he put the car into a four-wheel drift, making the most of the thrust of the centrifugal force and keeping it on the road with the traction of the driving wheels. Throughout the bend the car shaved the inside edge, and when the bend turned into the straight the car was in the normal position for accelerating down it, with no need for any corrections."

    Enzo Ferrari
  • jdavy
    jdavy Posts: 380
    edited February 2003
    Once Upon a Time in the West
    A Fist full of Dollars
    For a Few Dollars More
    The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
    The Magnificent Seven
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited February 2003
    Magnificient Seven
    The Outlaw Josey Wales
    The Searchers
    Once Upon a Time in the West
    Gunfight at the OK Corral

    Of course, the sound has NOTHING to do with the quality of the movies.

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  • Sumflow
    Sumflow Posts: 64
    edited February 2003
    Turner Classic Movies
    The word "masterpiece" gets tossed around far too often but if any film deserves that appellation, it's
    Once Upon a Time in the West (1969). Director and writer Sergio Leone hit the international film world hard with such spaghetti Westerns as The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966) but for Once Upon a Time in the West he used elements and specific references from decades of Westerns as an elegiac tribute to the genre. But the film is much more than just the ultimate Western; it's an epic tale of loyalty and mystery, a study of landscapes and faces, a beautiful and all too-human film.

    The plot of
    Once Upon a Time in the West is disarmingly simple. A powerful landowner is waiting for his new bride (Claudia Cardinale) to arrive from New Orleans when he's killed by thugs. The newly installed widow discovers that a railroad is coming through the land, which of course the local railroad boss wants for himself. Complicating things is the railroad boss's cold-blooded killer (Henry Fonda of all people) who is being stalked by a shadowy stranger (Charles Bronson). Complicating things even more is the bandit Cheyenne (Jason Robards) who has his own plans. You can tell Once Upon a Time in the West is going to be a different kind of Western from the opening scene. It's a ten-minute-plus scene of three men waiting for a train to arrive. There's almost no dialogue and very little overt action but it's a gripping visual sequence that was praised for its "almost balletic quality."

    Leone had first thought he'd finished with the Western after making
    The Good, the Bad and the Ugl y and started to plan a film that would later become Once Upon a Time in America . But that project proved troublesome so he turned to the idea of Once Upon a Time in the West. A chance meeting at a screening of The Good, the Bad and the Ugly connected Leone with two collaborators on the story who would later become accomplished directors themselves. The trio hammered out a story drawing from decades of American history and films (though much of the plot came from Johnny Guitar (1954) as they later admitted). The detailed story was expanded by Sergio Donati ( The Big Gundown (1966), and uncredited work on Leone's two previous films) to a full script in about a month. Much later, the English-language dialogue would be written by Mickey Knox, a former actor who worked on numerous translations during this period. (Like nearly all Italian films, Once Upon a Time in the West was filmed without sound so all the dialogue and sound effects were dubbed later, even for the Italian version.)

    Most of the cast were chosen for their memorable faces or familiarity among Western fans but Leone had always wanted to work with Henry Fonda. For Leone's earlier films, Fonda was just too expensive but now that he had the money it was a challenge to interest Fonda because of the language barrier. Fonda had passed on the film originally because the hastily translated script seemed clumsy but
    Eli Wallach told him that he really should meet with Leone. Fonda did so, saw Leone's earlier films, and was so impressed he signed aboard almost immediately. (Oddly enough, Leone was trying to get Clint Eastwood into the film, this time for the role that Charles Bronson would play.)

    Filming took place at
    Italy's Cinecitta Studios and on location in Spain (for the town and ranch-house) and John Ford's favorite stomping ground Monument Valley (for the flashback and several establishing shots and short scenes). Leone turned again to his favorite composer Ennio Morricone and had most of the music already recorded before production began so that it could be played during actual filming.

    Once Upon a Time in the West opened in 1969 to somewhat confused critical reaction. Audiences in France loved it but in the U.S. the distributor panicked and chopped out nearly 20 minutes. But sharp viewers (including the directors Stanley Kubrick and Sam Peckinpah ) began to take notice of this masterful achievement and it soon began to acquire the reputation it deserves.
    "At the first bend, I had the clear sensation that Tazio had taken it badly and that we would end up in the ditch; I felt myself stiffen as I waited for the crunch. Instead, we found ourselves on the next straight with the car in a perfect position. I looked at him, his rugged face was calm, just as it always was, and certainly not the face of someone who had just escaped a hair-raising spin. I had the same sensation at the second bend. By the fourth or fifth bend I began to understand; in the meantime, I had noticed that through the entire bend Tazio did not lift his foot from the accelerator, and that, in fact, it was flat on the floor. As bend followed bend, I discovered his secret. Nuvolari entered the bend somewhat earlier than my driver's instinct would have told me to. But he went into the bend in an unusual way: with one movement he aimed the nose of the car at the inside edge, just where the curve itself started. His foot was flat down, and he had obviously changed down to the right gear before going through this fearsome rigmarole. In this way he put the car into a four-wheel drift, making the most of the thrust of the centrifugal force and keeping it on the road with the traction of the driving wheels. Throughout the bend the car shaved the inside edge, and when the bend turned into the straight the car was in the normal position for accelerating down it, with no need for any corrections."

    Enzo Ferrari
  • Sumflow
    Sumflow Posts: 64
    edited March 2003
    McCabe & Mrs. Miller DVD
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    Salon
    DVD Talk
    "At the first bend, I had the clear sensation that Tazio had taken it badly and that we would end up in the ditch; I felt myself stiffen as I waited for the crunch. Instead, we found ourselves on the next straight with the car in a perfect position. I looked at him, his rugged face was calm, just as it always was, and certainly not the face of someone who had just escaped a hair-raising spin. I had the same sensation at the second bend. By the fourth or fifth bend I began to understand; in the meantime, I had noticed that through the entire bend Tazio did not lift his foot from the accelerator, and that, in fact, it was flat on the floor. As bend followed bend, I discovered his secret. Nuvolari entered the bend somewhat earlier than my driver's instinct would have told me to. But he went into the bend in an unusual way: with one movement he aimed the nose of the car at the inside edge, just where the curve itself started. His foot was flat down, and he had obviously changed down to the right gear before going through this fearsome rigmarole. In this way he put the car into a four-wheel drift, making the most of the thrust of the centrifugal force and keeping it on the road with the traction of the driving wheels. Throughout the bend the car shaved the inside edge, and when the bend turned into the straight the car was in the normal position for accelerating down it, with no need for any corrections."

    Enzo Ferrari
  • kberg
    kberg Posts: 974
    edited April 2005
    I just watched Jeremiah Johnson for the first time last night, and I have to add it to my list of best westerns. An "old" movie (1972), but a great one, IMO.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited April 2005
    I love westerns! Some of my favorites include:

    John Ford's Calvery trilogy:
    Ft Apache (I wish they would release this on DVD)
    She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
    Rio Grande
    Also
    Rooster Cogburn
    Rio Bravo
    Big Jake
    Mcklintock
    Blazing Saddles
    Hang Em High
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  • Billm57
    Billm57 Posts: 689
    edited April 2005
    The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
    The Wild Bunch
    Unforgiven
    A Fistful Of Dollars
    For A Few Dollars More
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited April 2005
    - Silverado
    - Unforgiven
    - Pale Rider
    - Tombstone (of course)
    - The Cowboy's
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  • irishaz
    irishaz Posts: 161
    edited May 2005
    1. Unforgiven
    2. Pale Rider
    3. Dances With Wolves
    4. The Magnificent Seven
    5. Outlaw Josey Wales

    Does The Three Amigos count as a western? :D
  • Spoonman
    Spoonman Posts: 135
    edited May 2005
    -Jeremiah Johnson
    -The Long Riders
    -Dances With Wolves
    -Lonesome Dove
    -Unforgiven

    Of course anything with the Duke...
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited May 2005
    1- Wyatt Earp
    2- Unforgiven
    3- Tombstone
    4- The Quick and the Dead (w/Sharon Stone)
    5- Maverick (w/Mel Gibson)
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,535
    edited May 2005
    1. The Wild Bunch
    2. High Noon
    3. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
    4. Unforgiven
    5. The Shootist