how much of a differnce will i hear?

1lakerfan

First heres my setup: Polk F:RTi10, C: Csi5 S:Fxi5 Sub:Velodyne DLS 4000R
reciever: Denon 2807. Im thinking of adding this amp.....http://outlawaudio.com/products/7200.html. and wanted to know how much diffence in sound ill here. An example of a big diffence in sound to me is compressed sound to uncompressed sound (Dolby Digital/Dolby True HD). Will the amp add that much clarity?

Cochise

Probably not much different. When I added an amp to my RTI A9, the bass got a little stronger, but beyond that, they sound the same.

Dennis Gardner

The most noticeable difference will be when the receiver never shuts down no matter how loud you listen. If you haven't had that happen yet, the biggest difference that you will notice will be how much flatter a wallet with $2k missing can be.;)

The sound difference between Denon and Outlaw is minimal, but the power capabilities are huge.

McLoki

You will hear a 13.38% difference.

LuSh

The power differences are only present if the pre-out terminals are switched (most models at that price point aren't) meaning if it isn't switched the amplifiers inside the receiver are still being used even if the power isn't being directed to the speaker tap. In short; the amplifier (outlaw) and speakers are at the mercy of the Denon power supply.

dorokusai

Stick with the AVR.

vonnie123

McLoki wrote: »

You will hear a 13.38% difference.

Wizards first rule???

dorokusai

He rolled a 30 sided die on that one....I concur with his findings.

NewHTguy

Really surprised by the replies. Based on other previous threads I was assuming an onslaught of "get an amp" comments.

danger boy

i will say that adding an amp to a receiver.. most always bring some improvement to the sound quality.. how much, only you can tell really. Driving all those speakers with a receiver can be done just fine. but they benefit from more power.

if you're looking for to be able to notice a huge difference.. i would say.. it would be noticeable, but it won't be night and day difference. it would be a positive thing to add an amp. maybe instead just looking for a 2 ch amp and let the Denon power the rest.

leroyjr1

Find a nice USED 5 channel amp for a couple hundred bucks. That way if it's not to your liking you can sell it and not take a big loss. You will notice a difference how much I don't know but it's always good to try and see.

I added a amp to my RTI a9's and noticed a BIG difference. It wasn't louder but added better bass.

curved

I would look at a 3-channel. Your Denon is plenty powerful to power the surround. IMO, a 3-channel amp of that quality would be a considerable difference. Look at something around 200x3....Emotiva??

ohskigod

NewHTguy wrote: »

Really surprised by the replies. Based on other previous threads I was assuming an onslaught of "get an amp" comments.

you'll see alot of "get an amp" comments regarding the LSi's, which are 4 ohms and notoriously a pita to drive. Rti's are much ore configured to run on quality recievers (which your denon falls into)

nothing wrong getiing a amp, I would say you should if you really listen at loud volumes fairly aften, as an amp will do it with less effort than the reciever. but get used amplification to get a better bang for the buck

Rotel, Carver, Hafler, used Outlaw is fine too. too many to list em all.

with the RTi's, you easily have the luxury of waiting all the time you want though, as you do not "need" it as much as if you had LSi's

curved

I can tell you from my personal experience with the RTi8's, that an amp has a significant difference. The brightness seemed to tame down quite a bit especially at higher volumes. The bass response is unbelievably better. I even had two Yamaha's bi-amped to the 8's and there was no comparison compared to the amp.

Just my $.02

bassaholic

When I added amps along with my Denon receiver I almost didn't believe the difference. Clearer dialog, less tinny highs and better bass. To me it sounded like a completely new system. If you go with the Outlaw, I hope you get the same results. BTW...why are you looking at a 7 channel amp with a 5 channel system?

ben62670

I'll say there is no need, but as stated above the control of an external amp helps a lot. Amps can be kept. Its the processors that get outdated quick;) I would go for the amp. You don't have to spend a lot.
Ben

Fongolio

I have my RTiA7's running on a Kenwood amp for 2 channel and on a Pioneer Elite 7.1 channel for HT. With the Pioneer I use two 10" subs to bring the big bass in movies alive. With the Kenwood (circa 1980) no need for subs. I use a switch from radio shack to change from HT to 2 channel. A dedicated amp really brings the A7's to life...not that they sound bad with the Pioneer Elite. They just really start to sing with the Kenwood.

Hilbert

I had Monitor 50s, 30s & CS1 connected to Yamaha rx v663. I added an Emo xpa-5 and was amazed by the improvement---lots more and better controlled bass, much less boominess in the middle range, sweeter high notes.

The Denon produces more watts and maybe watts of better quality than the Yammy (110 vs. 95). But the Monitors are supposed to be very easy to drive.

FWIW.