Living Room - PICS (PHANTOM)

curved
curved Posts: 664
edited November 2008 in Speakers
This is a pic of the living room....I'll be installing my new TV tonight above the fireplace. Sure does open the room up when set up like this. Before I had a 52" rear projection :D

Couch is about 10 feet away from front of fireplace. I plan on toe the right side in a tad more. I just couldn't because the cabinet isn't pushed all the way back. Should I push the couch back for more space? Do the speaker positions look alright?

I tried my AVR in Phantom mode - my wife LOVED it. I thought it sounded better but had some concerns - voice dialog tended to be real soft....background noise and explosions, etc tended to be real loud.

Thoughts?
Living Room:....................[HTML] [/HTML] Zone 2 (Workout Room):
AVR - Yamaha RX-V757......JBL 4312 Pro Monitors
Pre - Nak CA-5
AMP - Adcom 555 (Main)
Main - Polk RTI8**/RTiA5
AMP - Adcom 545II (Center)
Center - Polk CSiA4**
Sub - Snell Basis 300:p......Zone 3 (Outside)
CD - Yamaha CDC-555.......Def Tech AW5500
TV - Pani TH-42PZ80U
BR - LG BD390
Monster HTS1600 Power Center
Dedicated Circuit - (2) 20amp, (1) 15amp
Ben's IC, Canare 4S11
**Dayton and Sonicap Caps with Mills Resistors**
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,545
    edited September 2008
    That right main speak is gonna have some serious bass, that's for sure. Is there anyway to position the rack next to the fireplace, then spread the mains out?

    Graphics-man, I'm not, but take a look at my idea for placement...
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Source: Rotel CD14MkII CD Player - Speakers: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • curved
    curved Posts: 664
    edited September 2008
    I thought about that - I was thinking about putting room treatments behind it.
    Living Room:....................[HTML] [/HTML] Zone 2 (Workout Room):
    AVR - Yamaha RX-V757......JBL 4312 Pro Monitors
    Pre - Nak CA-5
    AMP - Adcom 555 (Main)
    Main - Polk RTI8**/RTiA5
    AMP - Adcom 545II (Center)
    Center - Polk CSiA4**
    Sub - Snell Basis 300:p......Zone 3 (Outside)
    CD - Yamaha CDC-555.......Def Tech AW5500
    TV - Pani TH-42PZ80U
    BR - LG BD390
    Monster HTS1600 Power Center
    Dedicated Circuit - (2) 20amp, (1) 15amp
    Ben's IC, Canare 4S11
    **Dayton and Sonicap Caps with Mills Resistors**
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,545
    edited September 2008
    Take a look at my first post--I did some cut/paste on your photo. Would this placement work?
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Source: Rotel CD14MkII CD Player - Speakers: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • curved
    curved Posts: 664
    edited September 2008
    Absolutely....I just didn't know if the speakers were spaced too far apart.
    Living Room:....................[HTML] [/HTML] Zone 2 (Workout Room):
    AVR - Yamaha RX-V757......JBL 4312 Pro Monitors
    Pre - Nak CA-5
    AMP - Adcom 555 (Main)
    Main - Polk RTI8**/RTiA5
    AMP - Adcom 545II (Center)
    Center - Polk CSiA4**
    Sub - Snell Basis 300:p......Zone 3 (Outside)
    CD - Yamaha CDC-555.......Def Tech AW5500
    TV - Pani TH-42PZ80U
    BR - LG BD390
    Monster HTS1600 Power Center
    Dedicated Circuit - (2) 20amp, (1) 15amp
    Ben's IC, Canare 4S11
    **Dayton and Sonicap Caps with Mills Resistors**
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,545
    edited September 2008
    They are a little wide, but you can use more toe-in if your centerstage gets a "hole" in it.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Source: Rotel CD14MkII CD Player - Speakers: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited September 2008
    For asthetic reasons alone I would have suggested moving the cabinet from the right side of the fireplace over to the left.
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    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,545
    edited September 2008
    yep, boxing that right speaker in like that would have produced some serious boomy bass, and the vibration wouldn't have been good for the source components.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Source: Rotel CD14MkII CD Player - Speakers: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited September 2008
    CSi5 in the sig, Bose in the picture?
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited September 2008
    RuSsMaN wrote: »
    CSi5 in the sig, Bose in the picture?
    curved wrote: »
    Good News - just got a new plasma

    Bad News - it's going above my fireplace so I'm going to have to use my Bose

    Do I have any other options?
    ....
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  • curved
    curved Posts: 664
    edited September 2008
    brettw22 wrote: »
    ....

    Yup...I have 4 center channels :D

    CSi5
    CS400i
    Bose VCS-10
    Yamaha NS C444

    But I'm actually liking Phantom right now. Might just leave it as a 2-channel
    Living Room:....................[HTML] [/HTML] Zone 2 (Workout Room):
    AVR - Yamaha RX-V757......JBL 4312 Pro Monitors
    Pre - Nak CA-5
    AMP - Adcom 555 (Main)
    Main - Polk RTI8**/RTiA5
    AMP - Adcom 545II (Center)
    Center - Polk CSiA4**
    Sub - Snell Basis 300:p......Zone 3 (Outside)
    CD - Yamaha CDC-555.......Def Tech AW5500
    TV - Pani TH-42PZ80U
    BR - LG BD390
    Monster HTS1600 Power Center
    Dedicated Circuit - (2) 20amp, (1) 15amp
    Ben's IC, Canare 4S11
    **Dayton and Sonicap Caps with Mills Resistors**
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  • curved
    curved Posts: 664
    edited September 2008
    Here is the TV up.....now I have to tackle the audio equipment. I plan on taking everything out and rewiring it all. I'll have to do some studying on cable management.:D
    Living Room:....................[HTML] [/HTML] Zone 2 (Workout Room):
    AVR - Yamaha RX-V757......JBL 4312 Pro Monitors
    Pre - Nak CA-5
    AMP - Adcom 555 (Main)
    Main - Polk RTI8**/RTiA5
    AMP - Adcom 545II (Center)
    Center - Polk CSiA4**
    Sub - Snell Basis 300:p......Zone 3 (Outside)
    CD - Yamaha CDC-555.......Def Tech AW5500
    TV - Pani TH-42PZ80U
    BR - LG BD390
    Monster HTS1600 Power Center
    Dedicated Circuit - (2) 20amp, (1) 15amp
    Ben's IC, Canare 4S11
    **Dayton and Sonicap Caps with Mills Resistors**
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  • curved
    curved Posts: 664
    edited September 2008
    OMG - what a nightmare!! Cables up the wazooo (the back of the cabinet does not come off!!!!!)....but it's finally done. I'll take some more pics and post them tonight or tomorrow.
    Living Room:....................[HTML] [/HTML] Zone 2 (Workout Room):
    AVR - Yamaha RX-V757......JBL 4312 Pro Monitors
    Pre - Nak CA-5
    AMP - Adcom 555 (Main)
    Main - Polk RTI8**/RTiA5
    AMP - Adcom 545II (Center)
    Center - Polk CSiA4**
    Sub - Snell Basis 300:p......Zone 3 (Outside)
    CD - Yamaha CDC-555.......Def Tech AW5500
    TV - Pani TH-42PZ80U
    BR - LG BD390
    Monster HTS1600 Power Center
    Dedicated Circuit - (2) 20amp, (1) 15amp
    Ben's IC, Canare 4S11
    **Dayton and Sonicap Caps with Mills Resistors**
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited September 2008
    Looks nice.
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  • Kchill
    Kchill Posts: 262
    edited September 2008
    Drill a stand into the brick on the fireplace.....like a brace and a shelf for the csi5.

    Also put that base in the corner for more reflection.

    You could always remove the stand and put some mortor back in to patch it up.
    Retired Onkyo 520 (returned broken HK 247)
    Now a Pioneer 1018
    CSi3
    2- RTI10's
    2- R50's
    2- Fxi3's
    Onkyo 250W Sub
    Polk psw-10

    "Inch by inch lifes a cinch, yard by yard life is hard"
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  • Kchill
    Kchill Posts: 262
    edited September 2008
    Or buy another piece of lumber from home depot and remake the mantel to hold the center. A little stain and shelack with steel wool and your back!
    Retired Onkyo 520 (returned broken HK 247)
    Now a Pioneer 1018
    CSi3
    2- RTI10's
    2- R50's
    2- Fxi3's
    Onkyo 250W Sub
    Polk psw-10

    "Inch by inch lifes a cinch, yard by yard life is hard"
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  • curved
    curved Posts: 664
    edited September 2008
    I was actually thinking about lowering the TV down to the mantle, and hanging the CSi5 above the TV slanting down.....

    Will that sound ok? I've never seen or heard a center channel that high up....
    Living Room:....................[HTML] [/HTML] Zone 2 (Workout Room):
    AVR - Yamaha RX-V757......JBL 4312 Pro Monitors
    Pre - Nak CA-5
    AMP - Adcom 555 (Main)
    Main - Polk RTI8**/RTiA5
    AMP - Adcom 545II (Center)
    Center - Polk CSiA4**
    Sub - Snell Basis 300:p......Zone 3 (Outside)
    CD - Yamaha CDC-555.......Def Tech AW5500
    TV - Pani TH-42PZ80U
    BR - LG BD390
    Monster HTS1600 Power Center
    Dedicated Circuit - (2) 20amp, (1) 15amp
    Ben's IC, Canare 4S11
    **Dayton and Sonicap Caps with Mills Resistors**
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited September 2008
    curved wrote: »
    I was actually thinking about lowering the TV down to the mantle, and hanging the CSi5 above the TV slanting down.....

    Will that sound ok? I've never seen or heard a center channel that high up....

    Just as long as it's aimimg at your ears you should be good.
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  • curved
    curved Posts: 664
    edited September 2008
    Any suggestions on mounting this BEAST???
    Living Room:....................[HTML] [/HTML] Zone 2 (Workout Room):
    AVR - Yamaha RX-V757......JBL 4312 Pro Monitors
    Pre - Nak CA-5
    AMP - Adcom 555 (Main)
    Main - Polk RTI8**/RTiA5
    AMP - Adcom 545II (Center)
    Center - Polk CSiA4**
    Sub - Snell Basis 300:p......Zone 3 (Outside)
    CD - Yamaha CDC-555.......Def Tech AW5500
    TV - Pani TH-42PZ80U
    BR - LG BD390
    Monster HTS1600 Power Center
    Dedicated Circuit - (2) 20amp, (1) 15amp
    Ben's IC, Canare 4S11
    **Dayton and Sonicap Caps with Mills Resistors**
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited September 2008
    curved wrote: »
    Any suggestions on mounting this BEAST???

    Do you mind drilling four holes in the top of the mantle. If not go to menards or Home Depot and get two(1" x 12" x 1/8") pieces of metal and screw it to the top of the mantle 1 foot apart with 6 inches hanging over the edge.

    Hope I explained it right. I used this method when I put my LSI 9's on my mantle/fireplace.

    Don't laugh at my paper template. Hope this helps

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  • curved
    curved Posts: 664
    edited September 2008
    Talked to the wife about using the CSi5 and her exact words were, "that speaker is too f#*#%n big!!" She insists that we should use the Bose because it "looks the best." I told her it sounds like crap with my setup and told her I refused to use it. I gave HER an alternative ;) - CSi3

    She said, "FINE!! Just get it then and be done with it." So I think it's a done deal. I know it proably won't sound as good as my CSi5 and CS400, but I listen to a lot of 2-channel anyways.

    I appreciate the help and am going to have to settle.....
    Living Room:....................[HTML] [/HTML] Zone 2 (Workout Room):
    AVR - Yamaha RX-V757......JBL 4312 Pro Monitors
    Pre - Nak CA-5
    AMP - Adcom 555 (Main)
    Main - Polk RTI8**/RTiA5
    AMP - Adcom 545II (Center)
    Center - Polk CSiA4**
    Sub - Snell Basis 300:p......Zone 3 (Outside)
    CD - Yamaha CDC-555.......Def Tech AW5500
    TV - Pani TH-42PZ80U
    BR - LG BD390
    Monster HTS1600 Power Center
    Dedicated Circuit - (2) 20amp, (1) 15amp
    Ben's IC, Canare 4S11
    **Dayton and Sonicap Caps with Mills Resistors**
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited September 2008
    I' m glad I 'm not married
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  • NotaSuv
    NotaSuv Posts: 3,871
    edited September 2008
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    I' m glad I 'm not married

    being married isnt the problem :rolleyes:
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  • curved
    curved Posts: 664
    edited September 2008
    NotaSuv wrote: »
    being married isnt the problem :rolleyes:

    no.....well maybe you should fill me in Don Juan :rolleyes:
    Living Room:....................[HTML] [/HTML] Zone 2 (Workout Room):
    AVR - Yamaha RX-V757......JBL 4312 Pro Monitors
    Pre - Nak CA-5
    AMP - Adcom 555 (Main)
    Main - Polk RTI8**/RTiA5
    AMP - Adcom 545II (Center)
    Center - Polk CSiA4**
    Sub - Snell Basis 300:p......Zone 3 (Outside)
    CD - Yamaha CDC-555.......Def Tech AW5500
    TV - Pani TH-42PZ80U
    BR - LG BD390
    Monster HTS1600 Power Center
    Dedicated Circuit - (2) 20amp, (1) 15amp
    Ben's IC, Canare 4S11
    **Dayton and Sonicap Caps with Mills Resistors**
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,545
    edited September 2008
    After you install the CSi3, tell her to go make you some pie.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Source: Rotel CD14MkII CD Player - Speakers: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • curved
    curved Posts: 664
    edited September 2008
    lol.....or some MEATLOAF!! (wedding crashers - Will Ferrel)
    Living Room:....................[HTML] [/HTML] Zone 2 (Workout Room):
    AVR - Yamaha RX-V757......JBL 4312 Pro Monitors
    Pre - Nak CA-5
    AMP - Adcom 555 (Main)
    Main - Polk RTI8**/RTiA5
    AMP - Adcom 545II (Center)
    Center - Polk CSiA4**
    Sub - Snell Basis 300:p......Zone 3 (Outside)
    CD - Yamaha CDC-555.......Def Tech AW5500
    TV - Pani TH-42PZ80U
    BR - LG BD390
    Monster HTS1600 Power Center
    Dedicated Circuit - (2) 20amp, (1) 15amp
    Ben's IC, Canare 4S11
    **Dayton and Sonicap Caps with Mills Resistors**
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  • curved
    curved Posts: 664
    edited November 2008
    It's been a while since I got everything into place.....I had to rearrange a few times with sub placement, speaker placement and electronics.

    Let me know what you think......

    FYI - that center is not even hooked up - going to be buying a CSi3 or CSiA4 this week. It's there to hide the wires....
    Living Room:....................[HTML] [/HTML] Zone 2 (Workout Room):
    AVR - Yamaha RX-V757......JBL 4312 Pro Monitors
    Pre - Nak CA-5
    AMP - Adcom 555 (Main)
    Main - Polk RTI8**/RTiA5
    AMP - Adcom 545II (Center)
    Center - Polk CSiA4**
    Sub - Snell Basis 300:p......Zone 3 (Outside)
    CD - Yamaha CDC-555.......Def Tech AW5500
    TV - Pani TH-42PZ80U
    BR - LG BD390
    Monster HTS1600 Power Center
    Dedicated Circuit - (2) 20amp, (1) 15amp
    Ben's IC, Canare 4S11
    **Dayton and Sonicap Caps with Mills Resistors**
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited November 2008
    I have to say I'm not a big fan of above fireplace mounts, especially when that puts the TV inches away from ceiling height. Have you found that to be an issue at all when you're on the couch watching tv? Typically brief or long watching periods? I'd think that you'd have neck discomfort issues with it that high...........no?
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  • curved
    curved Posts: 664
    edited November 2008
    I was actually not a fan at first....but I'm getting used to it.

    I will be able to lower it when I get the CSi3 about 3 inches. I was also thinking about mounting it above the TV and bringing the TV down to the mantle.
    Living Room:....................[HTML] [/HTML] Zone 2 (Workout Room):
    AVR - Yamaha RX-V757......JBL 4312 Pro Monitors
    Pre - Nak CA-5
    AMP - Adcom 555 (Main)
    Main - Polk RTI8**/RTiA5
    AMP - Adcom 545II (Center)
    Center - Polk CSiA4**
    Sub - Snell Basis 300:p......Zone 3 (Outside)
    CD - Yamaha CDC-555.......Def Tech AW5500
    TV - Pani TH-42PZ80U
    BR - LG BD390
    Monster HTS1600 Power Center
    Dedicated Circuit - (2) 20amp, (1) 15amp
    Ben's IC, Canare 4S11
    **Dayton and Sonicap Caps with Mills Resistors**
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  • Chitown_Badger
    Chitown_Badger Posts: 66
    edited November 2008
    Is it normal to have the sub pointed towards the listening area like that? Or is it a better idea to have the sub symmetrical with the side and back walls?

    Also, your sig doesn't say it, but those look like RTi 10s...I just hooked up a pair last night :)
    Fronts: Polk RTi10
    Center: Polk CSi A4
    Surround: Polk FXi3
    Sub: Dayton 100
    AVR: Pioneer VSX-1018AH
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  • curved
    curved Posts: 664
    edited November 2008
    Chitown_Badger wrote: »
    Is it normal to have the sub pointed towards the listening area like that? Or is it a better idea to have the sub symmetrical with the side and back walls?

    Also, your sig doesn't say it, but those look like RTi 10s...I just hooked up a pair last night :)

    It depends on the room. I played around with it for a while and found that this works best for me. When I had it perfectly square in the corner, I was getting a lot of boominess in the king's seat. I like the balance now.

    Nope....just RTi8's.
    Living Room:....................[HTML] [/HTML] Zone 2 (Workout Room):
    AVR - Yamaha RX-V757......JBL 4312 Pro Monitors
    Pre - Nak CA-5
    AMP - Adcom 555 (Main)
    Main - Polk RTI8**/RTiA5
    AMP - Adcom 545II (Center)
    Center - Polk CSiA4**
    Sub - Snell Basis 300:p......Zone 3 (Outside)
    CD - Yamaha CDC-555.......Def Tech AW5500
    TV - Pani TH-42PZ80U
    BR - LG BD390
    Monster HTS1600 Power Center
    Dedicated Circuit - (2) 20amp, (1) 15amp
    Ben's IC, Canare 4S11
    **Dayton and Sonicap Caps with Mills Resistors**
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