Urine Test - I like this idea

hoosier21
hoosier21 Posts: 4,411
edited September 2008 in The Clubhouse
from email:

I HAVE TO PASS A URINE TEST FOR MY JOB... SO I AGREE 100%. Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test with which I have no problem.

What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don' t have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them?

Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their A**, doing drugs, while I work. . .. . Can you imagine how much money the state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check?

Pass this along if you agree or simply delete if you don't. Hope you all will pass it along, though . ... Something has to change in this country!
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited September 2008
    Yep,, you nailed it,, if you receive benefits derived from our tax dollars,,you should have to pass randomized urine/blood drug screening---:)
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited September 2008
    Not a bad idea (although I am against urine tests by companies).
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited September 2008
    I think that is awesome! SSI could do the same thing. Except crack babies would be starving all over the place.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited September 2008
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    Not a bad idea (although I am against urine tests by companies).

    I agree with you there,, I ain't pissing in a cup for no corp cop. In the facility in which I work,, it's only performed if there is probable cause,, which in our case,,for nursing staff,,,narcotics come up unaccounted for,,, they all piss,,,.
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • Jeff Beaird
    Jeff Beaird Posts: 217
    edited September 2008
    Sounds like a great idea to me too..!
    But... How much $$$'s is the State going to spend analyzing those tens of thousands of pee tests? I think it would be a wash. 6 of one, half dozen of the other.
    Don't get me started about the Indian(Native American) Reservations. 75% of the people smoke and drink but yet can't afford food for their kids.. mmmmm:confused:
    Thanks, Jeff...
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited September 2008
    I thought state aid for the poor had something to do with children?

    RT1
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited September 2008
    Jeff Beaird wrote: »
    Don't get me started about the Indian(Native American) Reservations. 75% of the people smoke and drink but yet can't afford food for their kids.. mmmmm:confused:
    Who introduced them to the alcohol? And took away there subsistence style of living, put most on reservations that you couldnt grow **** on or hunt in a traditional manner and you wonder why they dont have enough food and abuse alcohol?


    Dont even get me started :D



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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited September 2008
    I have nothing to say. I just like posting in threads that will be shut down.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited September 2008
    snow wrote: »
    Who introduced them to the alcohol? And took away there subsistence style of living, put most on reservations that you couldnt grow **** on or hunt in a traditional manner and you wonder why they dont have enough food and abuse alcohol?

    No one can argue that we didn't mistreat the Indians, but.... it's been hundreds of years now. It's 2008. Maybe bow-hunting Bison isn't the best plan. I understand their need for community and tradition but no one's FORCING them to live on reservations; they're not **** camps. I've seen those reservations, there's nothing special about them (aside from their shittiness), why can't those same people move into a more prosperous area and set up their trailer parks there, exactly? I just don't understand why all of those Indian tribes, when handed the worst land in the country, said "sure, let's live there, with no water, food, or income."

    I'd love to see them all move off of those crappy things and prosper rather than living in poverty and squalor just because it's the way it's always been.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited September 2008
    I totally support legislation like this. My Dad owns his own construction company and when a worker gets injured on the job, the insurance company requires they submit to a drug test before they can receive benefits. If they test positive or refuse the test then they get nothing. This policy has helped my Dad find better workers and limit his liability to those who deserve it.
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited September 2008
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    No one can argue that we didn't mistreat the Indians, but.... it's been hundreds of years now. It's 2008. Maybe bow-hunting Bison isn't the best plan. I understand their need for community and tradition but no one's FORCING them to live on reservations; they're not **** camps. I've seen those reservations, there's nothing special about them (aside from their shittiness), why can't those same people move into a more prosperous area and set up their trailer parks there, exactly? I just don't understand why all of those Indian tribes, when handed the worst land in the country, said "sure, let's live there, with no water, food, or income."

    I'd love to see them all move off of those crappy things and prosper rather than living in poverty and squalor just because it's the way it's always been.
    Wow thats so wrong on so many levels I dont even know where to begin.

    Ricardo is correct this thread needs to be shut down.


    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited September 2008
    Feel free to correct, like I said I DON'T UNDERSTAND why.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,411
    edited September 2008
    cool, I started "one of those threads"

    going back to my corner
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    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited September 2008
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    Feel free to correct, like I said I DON'T UNDERSTAND why.
    I dont have the time to explain why right now, I am one of those Indians that doesnt live on a reservation and has a job that I need to go to in just a few minutes. If you truly want to understand some of the reasons simply do a little research online.




    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited September 2008
    I have had to piss in the cup for all 4 of my jobs in the last 24 years, I think it would be a great idea to have anybody receiving a check for assistance to prove they are not on drugs ( Except birth control drugs....having babies while relying on the gov to support you is asinine , and they are REWARDED more money for more kids....thats even worse then the drug problem moneywise for the gov ) .
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited September 2008
    snow wrote: »
    Wow thats so wrong on so many levels I dont even know where to begin.

    Ricardo is correct this thread needs to be shut down.


    REGARDS SNOW

    Don't know how to respond, so you cut and run . . . haha! Must be above your pay grade!
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited September 2008
    I can't even begin to elaborate, but I disagree entirely with the concept.
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  • ttomp
    ttomp Posts: 181
    edited September 2008
    I agree 100%
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