Check the prices CARVER M-1.0T R fetching

dee1949
dee1949 Posts: 1,425
edited August 2008 in 2 Channel Audio
....on Ebay. What's up with this!!!!!

http://completed.shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_nkwZCARVERQ20MQ2d1Q2e0TQQLHQ5fCompleteZ1QQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZR7QQ_mdoZQQ_sopZ12

Love mine , but $450........
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  • candyliquor35m
    candyliquor35m Posts: 2,267
    edited August 2008
    You can get them cheaper but that's a very fair price for one that doesn't have any issues. I've had to do nothing to mine. I had to send both my tfm-45 & 42 in for service for minor issues that cost about $200 each to have done.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited August 2008
    You link doesn't go anywhere Dee, but that price isn't completely unreasonable like previously stated. Caver gear has always held its value pretty well.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited August 2008
    The m1.0t is the one Carver amp that I think sucks.

    BDT
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  • dee1949
    dee1949 Posts: 1,425
    edited August 2008
    $375 - $450 Think it might be because of Carverfest with Bob Carver showing up?

    ...or log onto ebay and search completed items

    http://cgi.ebay.com/CARVER-M-1-0T-POWER-AMPLIFIER-OUTSTANDING_W0QQitemZ190243487492QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item190243487492&_trkparms=39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A13|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14


    http://cgi.ebay.com/CARVER-AMPLIFIER-M-1-0T-HIGH-HEADROOM-LOW-FEEDBACK-AMP_W0QQitemZ160271327737QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item160271327737&_trkparms=39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A13|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14


    http://cgi.ebay.com/CARVER-M-1-0t-POWER-AMPLIFIER-AMP-200-WATTS-PER-CHANNEL_W0QQitemZ120292553293QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item120292553293&_trkparms=39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A13|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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  • candyliquor35m
    candyliquor35m Posts: 2,267
    edited August 2008
    They don't make them anymore and they sound like a tube amp ;)
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  • fossy
    fossy Posts: 1,378
    edited August 2008
    $450 is to much ---- cause i didn't buy it:D:D If i had won that, I'd justify it a hundred different ways ...

    But for $400 -- I'd think this is a better buy IMO

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=190242418389
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  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited August 2008
    fossy wrote: »
    $450 is to much ---- cause i didn't buy it:D:D If i had won that, I'd justify it a hundred different ways ...

    But for $400 -- I'd think this is a better buy IMO

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=190242418389

    Hell yeah it is. That one must have slipped under the radar, only 1 bid!
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited August 2008
    Just get a couple of Silver Sevens and call it a day. :D
    Jake
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  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited August 2008
    Just remember; unless it's been serviced by a QUALIFIED Carver technician, the caps & other internals on these amps are now 20+ years old & may not last much longer. $450 for one that has been serviced is really pretty darned good. Lots of folks have paid a ton for ones that are about to take a dump....you never know unless you know the seller or you have the service done yourself....

    And a technician who doesn't know about the triac on a Carver amp can blow the entire thing sky high...

    The M1.0t was very conservatively rated; they can run up to 600 wpc for "musically significant" periods of time..in the manual, I believe it says @ 30 minutes....
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited August 2008
    candyliquor35m wrote: »
    They don't make them anymore and they sound like a tube amp ;)

    They don't make a LOT of things anymore, what does that have to do with anything? They are the opposite of rare.

    I know the story behind the amp, it's supposed to sound like the CJ Premier 5. While I've not owned the Premier 5, it doesn't sound like ANY of the CJ amps that I HAVE owned.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited August 2008
    I'm thinking a musically significant amount of time is on the order of milliseconds.

    The only Carver amp I ever had that I was happy to sell was the M1.0t.
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  • lakesailor
    lakesailor Posts: 319
    edited August 2008
    I didn't at all care for mine and would have loved to have sold it for that kind of money.
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  • candyliquor35m
    candyliquor35m Posts: 2,267
    edited August 2008
    looks like the average is about $400 plus shipping give or take $25-$50.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited August 2008
    The M1.0t owners manual specs were:

    200wpc continuous into 8 ohms 20-20K
    500wpc continuous into 4 ohms 20-20K
    1000wpc continuous bridged mono into 8 ohms 20-20K
    350wpc continuous into 8 ohms @ 1kHz

    The brochure that prominently featured the M1.0t had verbage along the lines of "peak power for momentary musical transients is up to 800 watts per channel." That brochure also made a big deal about the amp being able to deliver 350wpc continuous into 8 ohms, but never hinted that kind of power wasn't available anywhere but 1kHz. There was also verbage about one channel being able to "borrow" power from the other channel if needed, and I never really knew what to make of that. I like Carver amps. Just not that one. And the turn on/off thumps were wicked with that amp. Worst I've had with any amp ever. I didn't trust that amp at all, and that is really not flattering coming from a Carver amp fan. The accomplishment in Santa Fe being a whole different facet, I felt this amp was poorly put together and maybe even an inferior product. And I squinted every freakin' time I turned it off or on. You shouldn't have to do that.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited August 2008
    To be honest, me as well George. I'd like to add that IMO it had a rather shrill top end.
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  • candyliquor35m
    candyliquor35m Posts: 2,267
    edited August 2008
    I have 3 carvers and the m1.0t is the only one I haven't had to send in for a thump or any kind of repair. It has a minor hiccup which doesn't bother me a bit and isn't getting any worse.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited August 2008
    I can't honestly say that I had it around long enough to make any observations other than those thumps are killing me. They were kind of thump/cracks. There was definitely some high-frequency activity in there along with a thump.

    Another thing I thought about a few times in my life, but it doesn't keep me awake nights anymore is:

    That is one of the few Carver amps with a THD rating other than "not greater than .5%" or "Less than .5%"
    The owners manual rates it at .15%, same as the M-500t rating. If the M1.0t was voiced to sound like C-J tube monoblocks, why doesn't it have a THD that is more like a tube amp? I don't need a technical answer cause they make me fall asleep now.
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited August 2008
    George Grand wrote: »
    The M1.0t owners manual specs were:

    200wpc continuous into 8 ohms 20-20K
    500wpc continuous into 4 ohms 20-20K
    1000wpc continuous bridged mono into 8 ohms 20-20K
    350wpc continuous into 8 ohms @ 1kHz

    The brochure that prominently featured the M1.0t had verbage along the lines of "peak power for momentary musical transients is up to 800 watts per channel." That brochure also made a big deal about the amp being able to deliver 350wpc continuous into 8 ohms, but never hinted that kind of power wasn't available anywhere but 1kHz. There was also verbage about one channel being able to "borrow" power from the other channel if needed, and I never really knew what to make of that. I like Carver amps. Just not that one. And the turn on/off thumps were wicked with that amp. Worst I've had with any amp ever. I didn't trust that amp at all, and that is really not flattering coming from a Carver amp fan. The accomplishment in Santa Fe being a whole different facet, I felt this amp was poorly put together and maybe even an inferior product. And I squinted every freakin' time I turned it off or on. You shouldn't have to do that.

    Mine has been gloriously dependable ever since I got it new - no thumps - ever.

    Still going strong in my HT setup now.

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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited August 2008
    The thumps are well documented. If I'm not mistaken (and I'm not), two heavy-hitters from here, The Bros. McGowan, both had M1.0t amps that thumped. They got "fix kits" from Carver. No thanks. Maybe in later production models they eradicated the thump and that's why yours perfrorms okay.

    I've had more Carver amps than you can imagine, and that was the only one that didn't cause me any afterthought when I sold it.
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited August 2008
    George Grand wrote: »
    The thumps are well documented. If I'm not mistaken (and I'm not), two heavy-hitters from here, The Bros. McGowan, both had M1.0t amps that thumped. They got "fix kits" from Carver. No thanks. Maybe in later production models they eradicated the thump and that's why yours perfrorms okay.

    I've had more Carver amps than you can imagine, and that was the only one that didn't cause me any afterthought when I sold it.

    I must be special... :D

    Whatever....if folks want to poke each other in the eye...I'm outta here.

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  • avguytx
    avguytx Posts: 1,628
    edited August 2008
    It's funny that so many disliked the M-1.0t out of all the amps but everyone is going to have an opinion of gear...which is good. Bob said the M-1.0t was one of his favorites, too. Ironic, huh? I wonder if that means my signed M-1.0t is worth a lot more now? :D

    Actually, it just sits on a shelf now in the living room as the TFM-55 I got from Tom does the major 2-channel duty these days.

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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited August 2008
    Never in my wildest dreams did I think you would pass up the opportunity to mention that Mr. Carver signed an amp that you have ....... for about the four thousandth time.
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  • avguytx
    avguytx Posts: 1,628
    edited August 2008
    Well, there you have it. 4,001.
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited August 2008
    LOL

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  • dc55110
    dc55110 Posts: 128
    edited August 2008
    Here is one for $200. No association.
    AudiogoN - Caver M 1.0t - $200
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