AI-1 Interconnect

Ricardo
Ricardo Posts: 10,636
edited July 2008 in Vintage Speakers
They don't show up very often, but it won't be cheap.

No affiliation.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Polk-Audio-SDA-SRS-AI-1-Amplifier-Interface-Cable_W0QQitemZ110270967900QQihZ001QQcategoryZ14966QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited July 2008
    Wow, that is the real deal! What amp are you going to use with it or is it just a piece to buy because it's available?
    Jake
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited July 2008
    Well naturally! :p
    Jake
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  • John in MA
    John in MA Posts: 1,010
    edited July 2008
    I'd settle for a pair of MC501s.
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  • hangon
    hangon Posts: 228
    edited July 2008
    AI-1 is over $200 on ebay. I was bidding on it also.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2008
    Class act.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • MKZ
    MKZ Posts: 1,068
    edited July 2008
    make it 7sec. do not use 1 click bid.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited July 2008
    Lasareath wrote: »
    I retracted my bids, I'm not going to bid on an auction where two of the seller's best friends are bidding the auction in 10 dollar increments so that he can get the maximum sale.



    :confused:

    Well, someone could say that you are the seller's best friend....without your bid the price could be lower.
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  • tugboat
    tugboat Posts: 393
    edited July 2008
    Lasareath wrote: »
    I retracted my bids, I'm not going to bid on an auction where two of the seller's best friends are bidding the auction in 10 dollar increments so that he can get the maximum sale.

    I looked over the auction and bidder list you posted.... Where do you see shilling? I see nibbling, which is very common and normal. Besides, why would a shiller use an ID with such high FB and run the chance of ruining that ID?

    Didn't HANGON (a member here) just state they were also bidding on it? If that's true, then are you saying they are friends with the seller and a shiller?

    Just about every auction I've won had a nibbler bidder to some degree. I would never have won them if I pulled my bid because of them.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited July 2008
    I've nibbled on a few items before because I wasn't sure how much I wanted to spend, and wanted to pay the minimum I could. I don't see anything wrong with the style; am I a terrible person?
    Jake
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2008
    I nibble all the time on auctions. Often I really don't know how much something is "worth" until I know how much someone else is willing to spend on it....
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • tugboat
    tugboat Posts: 393
    edited July 2008
    I used to nibble all the time for the same reasons (not sure how much I wanted to spend, etc.). Now I just wait until the end of the auction. If it's more than I want to spend, I don't bid. If it's still under what I am willing to spend, I'll bid.

    The attached bidders list from an earlier post is named in such a way that it's obvious they don't like nibblers (something about stupid assess bidding 21 times). I'd rather go up against a nibbler than an out of control bidder in a frenzy. They don't like to lose an auction and bid much more than an item is worth puting it outside of my spending amount. I stay clear of those.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited July 2008
    I'm with Sal, something stinks.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2008
    Now here's some crazy bidding:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270254893838

    I just bought the same disc still shrink-wrapped on Amazon for $97....
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,196
    edited July 2008
    It's at 152.50 right now.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • hangon
    hangon Posts: 228
    edited July 2008
    Lasareath wrote: »
    Are you the guy with 22 bids just to get his name to the top of the list?
    Yea it's me I nibbled a few (4 times), not 22 times. I need one, so I am going to make one or wait.
    HT Theater

    SRS-SDA 2.3tl RDO's
    Custom Center made out of a RTA15tl
    Pioneer Elite SC-25 Receiver
    CineNova Grande 5 channel Amp
    Klipsch KA-1000-THX Sub Amp
    (2)Klipsch KW-120-THX Subs

    Basement System

    SRS-SDA 1.2 upgraded Xover
    Pioneer Elite SC-25 Receiver
    ADCOM GFA 5500
    ADCOM GFA 5503
    Yahama P7000S Pro Audio Amp
    dbx 120x-ds Sub-harmonic Synthesizer
    2-JBL 4645C Subs
    1-Paradigm SW2200 Sub
    Klipsch Reference in wall's
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited July 2008
    Yeah, I don't get the nibbling thing either.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2008
    I do it extremely rarely, generally on items where I'm not really sure what it's worth, and I'm just trying to figure out what someone else has bid. 99% of the time, I agree with Sal, and I'll wait till the very end to throw in a bid. Sal is absolutely right. The buyer has zero interest in bidding before the end, because all you're doing is giving someone else time to come along and outbid you. Very rarely, if i'm unsure about an item, I may do the nibbling thing just to find out how high someone else might have bid. Like I said, it's very rare.

    This, I think, is actually a big flaw in the ebay system. Ebay is not a true auction. A real auction doesn't end at a fixed time, an auction ends when nobody is willing to bid any higher (going once, going twice.....) If ebay really wanted to host true auctions, what they should do is extend every auction by a minute or two if a bid comes in within the final minute of the auction. So if someone puts in a high bid in the last 4 seconds of the auction, the listing extends so other interested buyers have time to re-evaluate whether or not they want to increase their bid. That would effectively destroy the sniping strategy.

    But as long as they are using a fixed end-time format, then absolutely, there is no motivation for a buyer to enter a bid prior to the last seconds before the auction end.

    I sell on ebay quite frequently too, and I'm always quite thrilled when two snipers bump into each other at the end of one of my listings!!!
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,204
    edited July 2008
    Lasareath wrote: »
    What people don't understand is that you don't need to bid at all until the end. it doesn't matter if you're the top bidder 5 days before the end of the auction. If nobody bid during the auction and waited till the last seconds then the cable would sell for 50 bucks.

    I guess they don't realize that the only thing that they are doing is making the seller richer.

    I try to stay away from auctions with stupid **** bidders like this!

    I set a price I'm willing to pay, use eSnipe to make my bid in the last 5 seconds and most times I will unless my max price isn't high enough. I just won a pair of LSi 7's like this. Bidding before the end of the auction is stupid except one case and that's to keep the seller from pulling the auction because of no interest. But, the seller should be able to see how many people are "watching" his auction.

    I was interested in this cable but with all the crap going on with the biding I'm completely out. But I'm cheap :D

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • PolkClyde
    PolkClyde Posts: 662
    edited July 2008
    Lasareath wrote: »
    Yes, I' the top bidder ;)

    I'm going to bid $500 now
    PolkAudioClyde
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  • PolkClyde
    PolkClyde Posts: 662
    edited July 2008
    Just joking I hope another one show up on e-bay
    PolkAudioClyde
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2008
    Anyone here "leonore" winning at $355??? For less than that you can DIY one of much better quality....
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2008
    Use real speaker cable! Change the connector on the speakers to a normal binding post and use some real wire, I definitely noticed a step up in quality when I replaced my pin-blade connector. I used a cardas post on the speakers, then had Frank at Signal make me an Ultra cable with a banana and a spade at each end. That way you can connect both wires to a single post.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2008
    No, the pin/blade is a single conductor. You only need one binding post per speaker, so one pair in total. Then use a piece of run of speaker cable, in my case the Signal, but you connect both wires to the same binding post. That's why I terminated the Signal Ultra with a spade and a banana on each end, that way you can connect both wires to one post.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,196
    edited July 2008
    You gotta be shitting me. $355.00 for an original IC? People buy speakers with the IC included for less than that. Geeeeez.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2008
    Well, this isn't the normal interconnect. This is the AI-1 with the isolation transformer so you can use mono-blocks with SDA's. Very different than the normal interconnect....
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,196
    edited July 2008
    Fill me in here. What speakers do they pair up with?

    $355.00? Come on now....
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2008
    Any pin/blade SDA. Hey, I ain't saying it's worth $355. I'm just saying it's not the normal pin/blade interconnect....
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited July 2008
    nspindel wrote: »
    For less than that you can DIY one of much better quality....

    That's not true as my testing proved. The stock AI-1 works the best.
    Any pin/blade SDA.

    That's not true either.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2008
    Ah, shows you how much I know! I stand corrected. So how do you know if a pin/blade pair of SDA's in AI-1 compatible?
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,204
    edited July 2008
    nspindel wrote: »
    Any pin/blade SDA. Hey, I ain't saying it's worth $355. I'm just saying it's not the normal pin/blade interconnect....

    Some early pin/blade models can't use the AI-1 cable. Just as an FYI. The socket obviously fits but the x-over connections are different therefore some early pin/blade models can not use non-common ground amps at all even with the AI-1 cable in place. I hope the winning bidder knows that. ;)

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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