Any Jimmy Page fans?

dragon1952

check this out.....sorry if it's been posted already
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0tAOIQiz-8&feature=related

Norm Apter

Cool flashback.

Just one year later (1958) Paul McCartney joined John Lennon's skiffle group, The Quarrymen, and then brought George Harrison on board. They were playing at some church fete in Liverpool. And the rest, as they say, is history...

janmike

Cool bit of history.

heiney9

That's where it all started for the greatest guitarist in rock. At first Jimmy who was really into "University" was going to be a scientist and then before seriously pursuing music he was going to be an artist. I'm glad he decided to pursue the guitar.

It's nice to finally see a decent copy of this video. I've had it for years on VHS but the quality was barely watchable.

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AsSiMiLaTeD

"greatest guitarist in rock" - funny stuff

ND13

AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »

"greatest guitarist in rock" - funny stuff

Ummmmm.....why?

Shicks18

Jimmy Page is the freakin pioneer, how can he not be considered one of the best if not the best!

heiney9

AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »

"greatest guitarist in rock" - funny stuff

You obviously aren't taking part in my LED ZEP blog and DL'ing the live shows. If you were you'd most likely retract your statement .

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heiney9

AsSimilAteD wrote:

"greatest guitarist in rock" - funny stuff

Yes, please discuss. I don't expect everyone to consider my POV as the truth, but at least have some intelligent discussion rather than a flippant comment You remind me of that guy Polkmaniac :p

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AsSiMiLaTeD

First, before you get all pissed off, make sure you read my entire post. JP is a great guitarist no doubt, I just think that a casual 'greatest of all time' statement warrants some discussion.

Sure he's one of the best, but didn't realize there was truly a 'greatest guitarist'. If there were such a thing, you could conceivably have him in that conversation, but IMO he's not even in the top two or three.

I guess it depends on how you're defining 'greatest' though.

If you're talking about pioneering a genre of music, then I think there are more people before and after him that have had a greater impact on music history. I'd call Hendrix more of a pioneer than Page, and would also call hendrix a more creative player.

If you're talking about soloing, technique or technical ability, we can just skip over that altogether. There are quite a few rock guitarists that have him in spades in that category - guys like Joe Satriani, John Petrucci, Steve Vai (I don't much care for Steve Vai) are all examples of guys who are better technical players than Page ever was.

If you're talking about improvisation ability, then any of the guys mentioned above would have him in that category as well.

If you're talking about songwriting, and specifically part and solo writing, that's an area where I'd say he competes the best. Some of my favorite guitar parts are stuff that he wrote and played. I'd say he's at the 'genius' level when it comes to writing guitar parts and solos, there are very few that are on that same level, especially today. Having said that, I believe Eric Clapton also belongs in that discussion, as does David Gilmour (ya I know DG isn't that great, but the guitar solo for Comfortably Numb is very well written and is my favorite solo of all time.

If you're talking about just general 'feel' of their music (how it flows, how melodic it is, etc) then again he's right there in the discussion. That's alot more subjective though, and again I'd put Clapton in that discussion personally. It's kind of hard to define greatest of all time though based on one's own personal tastes.

I'm not one of those Proggy guys who blindly claims Vai or Satch to be the best ever simply because they can play through scales and modes at 4 billion notes per second, I'm just offering a different viewpoint that perhaps Jimmy Paige isn't the greatest of all time just because that's what everyone says.

FWIW, I also think Eddie and SRV are great players, but wouldn't rate them in the top few of all time - again apparently against popular opinion.

heiney9

Believe it or not Page was a pioneer, more so than Hendrix. Granted for Hendrix's short span he was quite influential. To really appreciate Pages contributions a broad amount of live material is essential. On stage as part of the band he soared and his technique and abilities are much better showcased than on studio stuff (although there he was no slouch either).

Page and Hendrix are my all time favorites and on any given day are interchangeable as far as #1 and #2. Both had vision and pioneered a whole new way of approaching the guitar and composing music. Part of Pages genius was his producing and arranging abilities as well as the ability to think outside the box.

Perhaps my comment was a bit unrealistic as there is no ONE greatest in anything.

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heiney9

Eddie has his own technique and while he's in my top 15 I don't really consider him in the same company as others.

I'm a big SRV fan, but he more or less copied (in his own way) Hendrix and Johnny Winter, Buddy Guy, Albert Collins, etc. I don't want to take anything away from him because he was a very skilled blues player, but he didn't really create anything new. Just sort of played the crap out the blues (which is a good thing).

After seeing Rush and watching/listening to some live stuff Alex Lifeson is right up there as well.

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heiney9

AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »

If you're talking about soloing, technique or technical ability, we can just skip over that altogether. There are quite a few rock guitarists that have him in spades in that category - guys like Joe Satriani, John Petrucci, Steve Vai (I don't much care for Steve Vai) are all examples of guys who are better technical players than Page ever was.

In the world of guitar playing (IMO) technical ability only takes you so far. I've never gotten into the above players because they don't seem to be able to convey emotion when they play. Listening to Zep and especially Page I have an emotional connection to the music. Hard to explain; I just get that smile across my face. Same with Hendrix

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dragon1952

AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »

Having said that, I believe Eric Clapton also belongs in that discussion, as does David Gilmour (ya I know DG isn't that great, but the guitar solo for Comfortably Numb is very well written and is my favorite solo of all time.

Not that great? Well Gilmour may not be real fast and flashy but he is still freakin' awesome. Very few could create the emotion he does. He uses bends so expertly and tastefully. And his tone is to die for. Watch him on "Remember That Night, Live at the Royal Albert Hall". David Crosby and Graham Nash are just watching him in awe (or so it seemed to me).

edossin4

Jimmy Page definately belongs in any discussions of the greatest players ever. He makes my top three. I would
put Hendrix and Clapton ahead of him.

Hendrix was just from another world when he came out. He totally reinvented blues guitar. He took blues where
nobody even thought about taking it. Clapton too. The way he brought jazz improvisation to rock with Cream
was so innovative.

I don't think any discussions of all time greats would be complete without a mention of Frank Zappa. He may not have
reached the popularity of the top three but he is a freakin' genius.

george daniel

Hendrix,Clapton,Page,,, eh,,,I can live with that.;)

heiney9

For me my top 3 which are interchangeable and no others really come close

Page, Hendrix, Beck.

Jeff Beck continues to be one of the most innovative players out there. He doesn't get near the respect he deserves from the casual music fan. I have some live Beck stuff that is astounding.

One thing about Page when Zep was together, he was consistently a genius. He has played some stuff over that span that almost seems super human at times; literally jaw dropping stuff, arrangements, tunings and improvisations. Beck has moments, but hasn't had the consistent vehicle or musical equals around him to always excel.

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bobman1235

edossin4 wrote: »

Clapton too. The way he brought jazz improvisation to rock with Cream was so innovative.

I love how, when you listen to Cream's famous version of "Crossroads", where Clapton just tears into the guitar, you hear someone (Jack Bruce, I assume?) at the end announce "Eric Clapton.... vocals." Um, yeah, we weren't exactly listening to the vocals.

edossin4

I agree Jeff Beck is a fantastic player but I couldn't put him ahead of Clapton or Zappa.