SDA SRS-2 questions.

spaceman
spaceman Posts: 138
edited July 2008 in Vintage Speakers
I am thinking of trading my Rocket 550 MkIIs for a pair of these beasts. The SRS-2 I am interested in appears to be in very good sonic condition. I do not know, nor does the owner(he is the 3rd) if anything has been altered. The speakers seem to work ok but I have not yet put them through the ringer. Since they blew up a plate glass window the last time they got cranked, I am being careful to avoid the 1812 cannon bit lol.

Question is are these sustainable speakers? How do they compare in terms of detail and midrange compared to excellent modern entry level speakers like my 550s?

I have had very limited time with the SRS and that is why I am asking those whom have lived with theirs for years and have heard several other pairs of newer speakers. Obviously, nothing is going to touch these in terms of bass extension!

Thanks and please do ask me anything important which I have left out.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited July 2008
    Are they SDA SRS 2's?. If so, I think that if you have the right components in place,you have the opportunity to have a very respectable 2 ch system.
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  • spaceman
    spaceman Posts: 138
    edited July 2008
    Yes. Polk Audio SDA SRS-2 on the back. Big ole 4 mids two tweets and one flat 12" on the bottom.

    My only concern is midrange and high freq performance compared to my 550s. Not that I expect many to have heard both but what are the mids and highs comparable to in a modern speaker? That is the issue. Largely due to the speakers being heavy as hell and I can't just take them home for an audition lol. I am bringing my portable rig over to test drive them. He has them hooked up to a sad little receiver with only scratchy fm playback.
  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited July 2008
    Some people like SDA's over anything else, some people don't; you have heard them, so it's your call if you like them better than your Rockets. No one can decide for you. ;)
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited July 2008
    One more thing; they probably have the original tweeters; there's a replacement that sounds a lot better. Most SDA owners have replaced them getting smoother highs. (There is one member here that will offer a magical solution adding some caps to the stock SL2000 tweeters....don't pay attention).
    Crossover upgrades (same component values, better components) also provide significant sonic improvements.

    So if you think you like them as they are, they can get better.
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited July 2008
    Properly powered and setup SDAs (I've got the power, but a poor setup due to room constraints) might lack a shade of detail to some modern speakers...and that's only from my limited experience. However, I've heard nothing close in the size and depth of soundstage coupled with weight and slam they provide. Someone recently said, that studio recordings sound live and live recordings sound "more live". That's as good a description as any. Last weekend I went over to ivansfo's house and listened to his VA Grand Mozart setup. I was impressed, laid back, accurate, wide and transparent. When I brought the same demo material back to my place, it confirmed my thoughts above. My 1Cs are arguably a slight step down from the SRS2, so take it from there ;).

    edit: The RDO-194 tweeter is very controlled and smooth. It's not my favorite tweeter, but I preferred it to the stock SL2000. The midrange is where the rubber meets the road. Comparing it to a conventional speakers mids is somewhat difficult due to sheer scale and what the SDA effect does to instrument placement within the soundstage. As Ricardo said, you either dig it immediately...or not.

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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited July 2008
    If you throw in a quality high current ss amp,a good tubed pre such as an ELP,and a good source,,those speakers will disappear and the rest is magic,, but seriously,, if you are going to audition them,,then do so with something more than a receiver,,just my .02 worth. Good luck,,I owned a pair and wish that I had NEVER sold them.:)
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  • spaceman
    spaceman Posts: 138
    edited July 2008
    ah room size. is there a minimum requirement? mine is small but we are moving to a house with 12' ceilings and at least 15' x 15' rooms. Right now? Don't ask, it is too small. My 550s barely work right.

    I only have a sherwood 6500 receiver, vista laptop with winamp ogg vorbis plug in lossless, Trends Audio UD-10 usb to coax converter. All very entry level but solid.

    Certainly do intend to upgrade but am disabled for a few months and can't work.
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2008
    spaceman wrote: »
    ah room size. is there a minimum requirement? mine is small but we are moving to a house with 12' ceilings and at least 15' x 15' rooms. Right now? Don't ask, it is too small. My 550s barely work right.

    I only have a sherwood 6500 receiver, vista laptop with winamp ogg vorbis plug in lossless, Trends Audio UD-10 usb to coax converter. All very entry level but solid.

    Certainly do intend to upgrade but am disabled for a few months and can't work.
    A width of 15' may work, I currently have a pair of SRS-2's in a room that size. With a room that size, you'll definitely need a high current amp pushing them. A receiver will either overheat or take out the drivers in your speakers.

    Coming from someone who is also temporarily disabled, have fun moving them around. :D Hand truck and a blanket is the way to go.
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  • m00npie
    m00npie Posts: 697
    edited July 2008
    Face wrote: »
    I currently have a pair of SRS-2's

    Don't go getting too comfortable with those... when my work is done on the new house, they are coming home. I just thought I would remind you.

    :D
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2008
    m00npie wrote: »
    Don't go getting too comfortable with those... when my work is done on the new house, they are coming home. I just thought I would remind you.

    :D
    :D:D:D
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited July 2008
    Moon if Face gives you any problems just twist him a little:p
    Sorry Face. Hope all is well.
    Ben
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
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  • candyliquor35m
    candyliquor35m Posts: 2,267
    edited July 2008
    I'm running my sda 1b's in a 9.5 x 12 room and they sound fantastic. I don't crank them and there's no reason to in a room that size.

    You'll be amazed at how good the stock sl2000 tweeters sound. They are what make the sda's everything they are known for and then some.
  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited July 2008
    I told you......
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited July 2008
    You'll be amazed at how good the stock sl2000 tweeters sound. They are what make the sda's everything they are known for and then some.
    Kinda makes you wonder why Polk upgraded to the SL3000's:rolleyes: Then the RDO's:rolleyes:
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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  • spaceman
    spaceman Posts: 138
    edited July 2008
    Can I tell what tweet it is by looking at it or do I need to take it out?
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2008
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • spaceman
    spaceman Posts: 138
    edited July 2008
    The ones that I saw were different. Silver, not black.
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited July 2008
    Silver could be the SL3000, but I was not aware that tweeter was offered in the SRS 2. Maybe somebody swapped them?
  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited July 2008
    The SL2000's have a silver dome; those pictures make them look funny, or maybe there was a darker "batch".
    If the leads look like those, they are SL2000's, which they probably are because it was the only tweeter that came with the SRS 2's.
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  • spaceman
    spaceman Posts: 138
    edited July 2008
    The leads do look like those. damn. they look new except one has a vertical indentation. Are they kind of gel-like tweets? I had a pair of ads with those. Too bright for my tastes.
  • spaceman
    spaceman Posts: 138
    edited July 2008
    ads L420. I found them on the curb lol. Just needed a new fuse in one of them. Good, efficient speakers for monitors but too up tilted for me.
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited July 2008
    Well, SL2000s they are then. The tweeter looks the same as the on in the ADS line, but it is a different tweeter. Enjoy the speakers.
  • spaceman
    spaceman Posts: 138
    edited July 2008
    Ok. How much is it to update them? Approx is fine. I would feel no hurry of course. Unless they are going out of stock lol.
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2008
    Call Polk, tell them you're a member of Club Polk, and order up 4 RD0-194's.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited July 2008
    Since they blew up a plate glass window the last time they got cranked, I am being careful to avoid the 1812 cannon bit

    It's not that I don't believe you, but I don't. What amp were you driving the SDA's with and what was the SPL?
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  • spaceman
    spaceman Posts: 138
    edited July 2008
    Not me lol. The previous owner. I never met the man. Supposedly, he had several setups so...

    I have no reason to doubt anyone though it does seem unbelievable. I never even though much of it. Figured it might be possible given the specs and some crappy glass lol. Who knows? Maybe he was drunk and threw something through it.
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2008
    spaceman wrote: »
    I have no reason to doubt anyone though it does seem unbelievable. I never even though much of it. Figured it might be possible given the specs and some crappy glass lol. Who knows? Maybe he was drunk and threw something through it.
    Or leaned the speaker against it.
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  • hangon
    hangon Posts: 228
    edited July 2008
    I just picked up another pair of vintage speakers, I am looking for the fabric for the grill and sides for the SDA-2's. Someone's Cat was enjoying them.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2008
    Using Sonic Caps and Mills resistors, about $250.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,196
    edited July 2008
    Since they blew up a plate glass window the last time they got cranked, I am being careful to avoid the 1812 cannon bit.
    F1nut wrote:
    It's not that I don't believe you, but I don't. What amp were you driving the SDA's with and what was the SPL?
    This happened to me as a teenager in '86 with Klipsch Heresey's. Don't remember the tune but I do know that my dad didn't believe me either. Can you say "restriction"? :mad: Conditions; older house, heated basement, 19 degree weather outside with snow 1/2 way up the window cranking the hell out of vinyl on the rig.

    It can happen given the right conditions. The window only cracked about 4" though. Blowing up? Eh, lose the drugs.
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