Polk 11T speakers

concealer404
concealer404 Posts: 7,440
edited April 2013 in Vintage Speakers
First post, i'll formally introduce myself later today if work slows down a little more. :)

Anyways, there's a guy local to me selling a pair of 11T, with this picture attached:

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Now, every picture of 11T that i can manage to pull up online doesn't have that weird silver cone on the bottom driver (i believe it's passive, please correct me if i'm wrong.)

Does anyone know anything about this? Or should that be indication for me to step away? I'm not paying much for these if i get them ($70), so i'm just looking to find out if it's worth the risk (and gas) to drive 30 miles to pick them up.

Just looking for something to compliment my VS-25s (yep, i've got a pair) in the bedroom. :)

Thanks in advance!
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  • geoff727
    geoff727 Posts: 546
    edited June 2008
    Is that a silver cone, or is it the light reflecting off the larger dust cover of the lower passive? On my monitor, it almost looks like a camera flash reflection. Can you go look at them?
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  • candyliquor35m
    candyliquor35m Posts: 2,267
    edited June 2008
    Looks like a camera flash. It would be well worth the money and the short drive to get them.
  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited June 2008
    Looks like a reflection to me. That passive has a very flat and shiny surface. Well worth the $70 and gas.
    I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited June 2008
    Thanks for the advice!

    Going to go properly introduce myself now. :)
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited June 2008
    Most likely refection as the dust cap on the lower PR is larger and it is shiny.

    GL
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  • dcmeigs
    dcmeigs Posts: 708
    edited June 2008
    $70? Go check them out.
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  • lakesailor
    lakesailor Posts: 319
    edited June 2008
    That will be the best $ 70 you ever spent. The 11T is a really nice speaker and suprinsingly deep as well with nice tight bass. They are also more effecient than you might think. They used the same SL series tweeters in the SDA's or that era. You will enjoy them.
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited June 2008
    they look ok.. just need some good deep cleaning.. and with some luck.. all the drivers will be working. yeah go check em out for that price. :)
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited June 2008
    Got 'em. :)

    Mainly dusty, they cleaned up pretty nice.

    I'm still working on placement with them, but they're very crisp. Just seem to have a little less bass than the set of Infinitys that i temporarily replaced with them. Maybe once i get the placement right we'll be ok. For music, i do like them better, though. Just don't quite get the same "rumble" the Infinitys did. (I know, i need to suck it up and get a sub.)
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  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited June 2008
    Take screwdriver, not a screw gun, and tighten all the screws on all the drivers making sure they are good and snug. You will feel when they are tight enough. If there are any air leaking around any drivers or terminal cup the bass will be less than optimal. Every pair of vintage Polks I have bought had loose screws, not unusual for being 20+ years old. Did you use windex and a lint free rag to clean the drivers?

    Scott
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited June 2008
    Take screwdriver, not a screw gun, and tighten all the screws on all the drivers making sure they are good and snug. You will feel when they are tight enough. If there are any air leaking around any drivers or terminal cup the bass will be less than optimal. Every pair of vintage Polks I have bought had loose screws, not unusual for being 20+ years old. Did you use windex and a lint free rag to clean the drivers?

    Scott

    Haven't actually cleaned the drivers yet, to be honest. I just cleaned the cabinets and covers as best i could for the moment, and started experimenting. I had a bit of a crisis with my car this weekend that needed the main attention. :mad:

    I'll do the screwdriver thing tonite, i should probably do it on my VS-25s, too. :)
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited June 2008
    Most of the reason you aren't getting the same bass as the Infinities is because the Polk bass is cleaner and more natural; less bloated than the Infinity. Meaning it's closer to what the recording sounds like. I had RTA 11's and they put out more than ample bass if it's in the recording.

    Clean 'em and enjoy :)

    H9
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited July 2008
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Most of the reason you aren't getting the same bass as the Infinities is because the Polk bass is cleaner and more natural; less bloated than the Infinity. Meaning it's closer to what the recording sounds like. I had RTA 11's and they put out more than ample bass if it's in the recording.

    Clean 'em and enjoy :)

    H9


    Thanks! Yeah, i do like them better for music, they just don't have the theater-style punch that the Infinitys seem to.

    I'll let them adjust for awhile longer while i decide what to do. I may actually just run them in my bedroom for some 2-channel goodness. :)
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

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    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

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  • honda cber
    honda cber Posts: 267
    edited July 2008
    I'll do the screwdriver thing tonite, i should probably do it on my VS-25s, too. :)
    although "tonite" was yesterday, i thought i would caution you to be careful not to over tighten. easy to strip if you arent careful. that is why the speakers have gaskets---- they should seal with minimal tension.
    also (and this doesnt apply to MW woofers, i think), with some close-tolerance speakers, the basket can be slightly distorted by over tightening, which can cause the VC to rub (i.e. "blown", the blanket term that seems to describe damaged speakers).
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited July 2008
    honda cber wrote: »
    although "tonite" was yesterday, i thought i would caution you to be careful not to over tighten. easy to strip if you arent careful. that is why the speakers have gaskets---- they should seal with minimal tension.
    also (and this doesnt apply to MW woofers, i think), with some close-tolerance speakers, the basket can be slightly distorted by over tightening, which can cause the VC to rub (i.e. "blown", the blanket term that seems to describe damaged speakers).


    We're good. :) Only one driver seemed loose. :D
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
  • dcmeigs
    dcmeigs Posts: 708
    edited July 2008
    This is all good advise, but I would check first to see if you have a problem before tightening the driver screws too much. Otherwise you wont know if your efforts were sucessful.

    Push in gently on the PR. The MW drivers will be forced out by the air pressure and should stay out while you hold the PR. If they slowly return to rest, then you have a pressure leak. You can buy replacement gasket material at partsexpress.com.

    It may pass that you find a small hole or tear in one of the surrounds. Of course, that will create the same problem. Cats love to attack the moving cones and they often damage the surrounds in this manner.

    Good Luck
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited July 2008
    You leave those nasty SM-115's out of your system long enough and you'll appreciate the difference between the two. Infinity SM series has very little redeeming value in the world of accurate sound. A kid's (headbanger) speaker.
  • satguy08
    satguy08 Posts: 26
    edited April 2013
    I know its an old post, but you also don't have foam surrounds to deal with eithe with the polks.