Whats better between these 2 options...

Shicks18

Now that I got my LSi9s I need to upgrade my Sub from my smaller polk sub.

My current budget can't really be over $350 including shipping so my question is.... what would be better down the road....

2 x Bic Acoustech H-100 ($250 x 2)
or
1 x HSU VTF-2 MK3 ($500)
or
2 x HSU STF-1 ($300 x 2 or $250 x 2 if i chose silver haha)

I could do 1 Bic now and save up enough money to get another later, or I could save up more money and buy the HSU in a few months. (Just a college kid counting his pennies..)

Or option 3: Yall (Yes I am Texan) recommend good options not exceeding $350 shipped.

Thanks, you guys are the best... I am sure I have annoyed the crap outta you guys with my growing list of meaningless posts.

rcody

I am new at this and don't know how to go about this without pissing people off. I have a Earthquake MKIV/12 that I am going to put on ebay in a week or two. It's the price you mentioned plus shipping. It's six months old and I never regestered it. You can go to the web sight and check out the specks at www.earthquakesound.com Thanks Robert

tonyb

You need to put this is the for sale section,but you need 25 posts befor being able to do so.Also,it is pretty much taboo to offer your stuff on e-bay and here at the same time.The rules are clearly stated in the For sale area.

Shicks18

Do what?? Im not selling anything... Thats what I am considering buying and I wanted yalls opinions!

McLoki

He did not mean you... Also - check out the outlaw subs. They are pretty nice and when on sale, can fit into your price range.

AndyGwis

I have a Mirage Omni S-12. Not sure where you can find them anymore, but I run one with my LSi HT setup and have loved it for years.

Originally $800, but Tweeter had them marked down to $400 when they started to go under. If you can find one, grab it

I have an SVS in my bedroom, and it's very solid as well. It's the lower end basic 10" version.

Ern Dog

Between the three option you listed, I'd choose option #2 because it is important not to skimp on a sub, even if it means waiting a little longer until you have the coin.

Shicks18

Theres no doubt that is the best sub of all.. but getting that I wouldn't get a 2nd sub. I just don't know what would be better, 2 lesser subs (both good) or 1 monster sub. I know stacking 2 subs together in 1 area has a 3db increase, or spreading them out creates a smoother more balanced sound. From yalls experiences which have yall liked more... 1 monster sub or 2 above average subs.

McLoki

Shicks18 wrote: »

Theres no doubt that is the best sub of all.. but getting that I wouldn't get a 2nd sub. I just don't know what would be better, 2 lesser subs (both good) or 1 monster sub. I know stacking 2 subs together in 1 area has a 3db increase, or spreading them out creates a smoother more balanced sound. From yalls experiences which have yall liked more... 1 monster sub or 2 above average subs.

Actaully spreading them out does create a more balanced sound, but also provides a 3db increase.

Colocating (stacking) provides a 6db increase.

The big difference as I see it between 2 lesser or one greater sub is where is there lower -3db point at? If the greater sub plays down to 18hz and the lesser one down to 30hz, that +6db is not going to equalize things. (this is a random example, not stating for the subs you are directly looking at)

I really like having dual subs, but either way, I would make sure their -3db point is at least 25hz or I would pass.

Michael

Shicks18

BIC Acoustech H-100 Subwoofer
Woofer - Long-throw 12".
Power - 500 watts dynamic peak output (150 watts RMS continuous).
Max Acoustic Output --- 115 dB SPL
Frequency Response --- 24 Hz - 200 Hz (+/- 3 dB)
Enclosure - vented
Dimensions - 17" H x 15 W x 18 1/4" D
Crossover Frequency Range --- 40 Hz - 150 Hz


HSU VTF2 MK3
Amp Power (RMS) 250
Frequency Response (maxiumum extension mode) --- 18 Hz
Frequency Response (maxiumum output mode) --- 25 Hz
Woofer Size --- 12 Inches
Crossover -- Bypassable 24 dB/Oct, continuously variable 30 - 90 Hz low pass filter

HSU STF 1
Amplifier power -- 150 Watts
Bass extension +/- 2 dB --- 32 Hz
Woofer size --- 8 Inches
Crossover -- Continuously variable 30-90 Hz, defeatable, 24 dB/Oct


Not sure what all of that means, but I am sure you can tell me McLoki... you have been a big help on all my threads sir!

Edit:: Will be using more for HT than Music (75/25)

Per Craigsub's Rankings : Price/Points (HT-Music) --

Hsu VTF-2 Mark III w/o Turbo ($499 ID): 86 points (40-46)
Elemental Designs A2-300 ($350 ID/SI): 83 points (44-39)
SVS PB10-NSD ($429 ID): 83 points (43-40)
Rocket X-Sub ($199 ID): 78 points (34-44)
BIC H-100 ($229 eBay): 78 points (40-38)

McLoki

Based on what you have listed above I would go with option one or two based on below....

If you room is not that great for bass (With a sub in a single location, some bass sounds boomy and other bass notes just seem to dissapear) I would go with the dual h-100. (Also if you are not sure, dual subs would be the safer bet).

If you room is ok for bass (you can get decent bass without alot of nulls/peaks with the sub in one location) I would get the vtf-2. It does dig a little deeper and If one was just not enough, you could pick up another used if it came along. I think this would be the better sub with the best sound, but your room could change that to favoring the dual subs listed above.

I would not consider the STF-1. (IMO - 32hz is to high of a tuning point for good home theater, it may be great for music, but that is not what most of its use will be)

Michael

rcody

thank you, I would look at the reviews on the Earthquake subs. They are an outstanding subwoofer. Thanks again for correcting my errors.

Shicks18

Thanks Michael you have helped me such much these past few days.

What do you think of eD A2-300
http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_info.php?t=2&products_id=407

McLoki

Shicks18 wrote: »

Thanks Michael you have helped me such much these past few days.

What do you think of eD A2-300
http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_info.php?t=2&products_id=407

I have not personally heard one, but they are supposed to sound very nice. They are also (as reported) moderately ugly - if that is important to you.

Added to the choices you have listed above - 2 of these would be my top choice.

1 now and 1 later, would replace my choice of the HSU above.

If you only plan to purchase one sub, I would put it as a toss up between the HSU and this one. Performance I would expect to be pretty equal, price goes to eD, looks goes to the HSU.

Shicks18

I like the idea of 2 subs truthfully, and having the luxory to purchase 1 immediately makes it more appealing.

Face

What size is your room?

Slab, basement, etc...?

I have the larger A5-300(replaced by the A-350). It's a great home theater sub.

PSOVLSK

Check out the "Famous Maker" sub designed by Dr. Hsu. If I were a college kid counting my pennies (or if I needed a sub now), I'd seriously consider this as an option. The downside for you is that you'd like to add a 2nd one later and this obviously won't be available then.

http://www.partsexpress.com/webpage.cfm?FILTER=hsu&FTR=hsu&search_type=main&WebPage_ID=3&x=17&y=8

Shicks18

which sub? the link directs me to all of the subs

PSOVLSK

The last one. $288.87

rcody

polk psw1000 ebay#150262859140 offer $150 buy daton amp

erm93ct

psw303 is your best optioon

Shicks18

I went with 1 HSU STF-2 now and will get a 2nd later. I am currently in a 12x15 room.

McLoki

And we are still waiting on the review...

Shicks18

hah, don't worry Michael it is definitely coming in about 4 weeks when I move back up to Columbia and it is all set up. Everything minus my tv/xbox360 is new, so I will review my HSU, LSi9s, Parasound, and HK.

Mike Reeter

Shicks18 wrote: »

hah, don't worry Michael it is definitely coming in about 4 weeks when I move back up to Columbia and it is all set up. Everything minus my tv/xbox360 is new, so I will review my HSU, LSi9s, Parasound, and HK.

You are building a very nice rig...I can only wish I had such a set-up at your age.

N'joy your new toys:D

Shicks18

Thanks, its from working countless hours of overtime at my summer job.