EAC and Flac users

tryrrthg
tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
edited June 2008 in The Clubhouse
I am thinking of adding some flac files to my music library. I've just started compiling my music server with music and they will primarily be wav files for the music I listen to the most. Some of the other music that I'd like to have available but I might not listen to as much I'd like to put in flac.

Since I've never used flac before with Exact audio copy I was wondering what everyone's command line reads?

mine is currently this, but I don't know how or why it looks like that...

-6 -V -T "ARTIST=%a" -T "TITLE=%t" -T "ALBUM=%g" -T "DATE=%y" -T "TRACKNUMBER=%n" -T "GENRE=%m" -T "COMMENT=%e" %s -o %d


also, what bit rate are you using with flac files? currently mine is set at 768.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,213
    edited June 2008
    tryrrthg wrote: »
    I am thinking of adding some flac files to my music library. I've just started compiling my music server with music and they will primarily be wav files for the music I listen to the most. Some of the other music that I'd like to have available but I might not listen to as much I'd like to put in flac.

    Since I've never used flac before with Exact audio copy I was wondering what everyone's command line reads?

    mine is currently this, but I don't know how or why it looks like that...

    -6 -V -T "ARTIST=%a" -T "TITLE=%t" -T "ALBUM=%g" -T "DATE=%y" -T "TRACKNUMBER=%n" -T "GENRE=%m" -T "COMMENT=%e" %s -o %d


    also, what bit rate are you using with flac files? currently mine is set at 768.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

    Too lazy too look up my command line. All it does is display the info in the tag to be displayed in whatever media program you are using to play the file. I make tags in Media Monkey so the setting for the tag in FLAC for me aren't important.

    As far as the bit rate there is no difference in playback quality it's just a matter of how much space you want them to take up I use level 8 which is the highest compact rate meaning it makes the smallest files but it also takes the longest to encode. If you are using primarily .WAV files for your server (why you wouldn't use FLAC I don't know :confused:) then space must not be an issue so using a lower FLAC compression setting will mean faster encoding but the files are bigger.

    I would use FLAC for everything there by saving space.

    I also highly, highly recommend Media Monkey for your playback and file management. The free version is 99% as good as the pay version.

    Check it out is a great, powerful easy to use music manager/player

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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited June 2008
    The ONLY reason I have all my music on my computer in .WAV is because it's so easy to just burn a CD for me or someone else when it's in .WAV. How hard would it be to burn a CD (that could play in all CD players) if you had it on your computer in FLAC?

    I'm just thinking, with me fixing to go off to college and leaving all my CD's here, I want my music to be in the most versatile file format.
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  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited June 2008
    Thanks for the info H9. I will likely use flac for CD's I don't use that often and that I have a hard copy of already...
    audiobliss wrote: »
    The ONLY reason I have all my music on my computer in .WAV is because it's so easy to just burn a CD for me or someone else when it's in .WAV. How hard would it be to burn a CD (that could play in all CD players) if you had it on your computer in FLAC?

    I'm just thinking, with me fixing to go off to college and leaving all my CD's here, I want my music to be in the most versatile file format.

    That's kinda my thoughts too. wav is just too versatile for making CD's, still uncompressed, etc. I don't have THAT many CD's so if I run out of space I'll just go buy a TB drive for my music server. Or I'll just delete wav files I never listen to...
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,213
    edited June 2008
    With a program like Media Monkey you can burn FLAC to WAV on the fly no conversion nec. You guys do what you want. With storage being so cheap now days perhaps .WAV files will be the norm. FLAC is great for uploading like I do for my blog and it saves space on a hard drive, but if you have lots of space there is nothing wrong with .WAV files. Although typical .WAV files can't have tags although Media Monkey allows you to tag standard .WAV files.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited June 2008
    If you burn with Nero, they have a flac plug-in. So you can add flac files straight to an audio-cd burn project, and it will do the decompression to wav for you on the fly. Works perfectly. No need to store the files as wav just to make audio cd-burning more convenient...
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited June 2008
    audiobliss wrote: »
    The ONLY reason I have all my music on my computer in .WAV is because it's so easy to just burn a CD for me or someone else when it's in .WAV. How hard would it be to burn a CD (that could play in all CD players) if you had it on your computer in FLAC?

    Very easy, Nero has a plugin as said, and many of the Linux burn software has it built-in. I am however considering going from FLAC to WAV since PS3 does not support FLAC.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited June 2008
    Ok, wow. Great to know all that. I'm definitely going to play with FLAC and Media Monkey, now. I'm out of space on my 250GB HD for WAV files, and was going to get a 500GB to do the job. But I'll check out FLAC first and see how that works.

    Thanks for the info!!
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited June 2008
    check out dbpoweramp as well, especially for doing your transcoding.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited June 2008
    Ok, so I just d/l'd and installed MediaMonkey and am playing around with it a bit...what about a FLAC codec for EAC? A certain preference/recommendation? I'm not sure I know how to set it up even if I d/l the right one.

    Any helpful write-ups or tips on it? Think I'll check out google real quick...
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  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited June 2008
    This is what I used for EAC/flac setup.

    http://www.carltonbale.com/project/cd-audio-extraction/
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited June 2008
    Awesome! Thanks for that link! I've installed it and set it up almost completely so far.

    So now I'm trying to setup my command line and I think I have most of it figured out. I'm just basing mine off what you posted in your first post, tryrrthg. However, a few questions. What's the %e, %s, %d, and -o do?
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
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    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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    Pioneer Elite VSX-52, Parasound HCA-1000A
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    Epson 8700UB
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    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
    Klipsch RF-35, RB-51ii
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  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited June 2008
    I'm not really sure what is up with my command line... it was just there...

    as for the %e, %s, %d, and -o do, etc. I think those are what you want the file named when it is ripped. each of those stand for something. I would check your naming scheme in the EAC setup options it should show you what those stand for.
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