my social security # is assigned to dead person?

exalted512
exalted512 Posts: 10,735
edited June 2008 in The Clubhouse
that's what my mortgage lender just told me anyway. I emailed him back confirming my number and he hasn't got back to me yet...hopefully its a mistake...but what do I do if it isn't ?
-Cody

ps. anyone want to loan me 30k?
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  • mule
    mule Posts: 282
    edited June 2008
    I think by now a lot of ss# are recycled, I wonder how many combinations there actually are?

    Hopefully he died before you were born
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  • petrym
    petrym Posts: 1,912
    edited June 2008
    exalted512 wrote: »
    ps. anyone want to loan me 30k?
    I can't... you're dead. ;)
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited June 2008
    mule wrote: »
    I think by now a lot of ss# are recycled, I wonder how many combinations there actually are?

    A 9-digit number with 10 possibilities per digit would have 10^9 possibilities.

    1,000,000,000, or 1 billion possibilities (minus a few reserved numbers; I don't think any SS numbers begin with 999 for example). (US Population is ~300 million right now).
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited June 2008
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  • devani
    devani Posts: 1,497
    edited June 2008
    SS number is unique...it's doesn't get recycled and there's some mistake with the lender or something serious...what are the odds of entering wrong numbers?
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited June 2008
    Get hold of the Social Security Administration in your town, and get the ball rolling to get it fixed/rectified.
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited June 2008
    My brother and I lived the first eighteen years of my life (seventeen in his case) using each other socials mistakenly. I suppose that could have gotten really messy.
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,846
    edited June 2008
    exalted512 wrote: »
    that's what my mortgage lender just told me anyway. I emailed him back confirming my number and he hasn't got back to me yet...hopefully its a mistake...but what do I do if it isn't ?
    -Cody



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  • mule
    mule Posts: 282
    edited June 2008
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    A 9-digit number with 10 possibilities per digit would have 10^9 possibilities.

    1,000,000,000, or 1 billion possibilities (minus a few reserved numbers; I don't think any SS numbers begin with 999 for example). (US Population is ~300 million right now).

    But I wonder how many generations factor in, I really don't know when they started using them but with you math after 3 generations thay are all used up.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited June 2008
    mule wrote: »
    But I wonder how many generations factor in, I really don't know when they started using them but with you math after 3 generations thay are all used up.

    3,000,000 are not born each generation.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited June 2008
    Info on SSN's.

    http://www.socialsecurity.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html
    http://www.socialsecurity.gov/employer/ssnvhighgroup.htm
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  • hockeyboy
    hockeyboy Posts: 1,428
    edited June 2008
    Make sure you are getting that retirement check every month.
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  • simm
    simm Posts: 570
    edited June 2008
    I actually have 2 SSN's assigned to me. I guess both my parents applied for a number for me when I was born in 1965 and somehow the applications must have crossed each other on a desk without the duplication being caught. I was not even aware of this until a couple of years ago when my Mom told me she had my card. In fact the statement that comes out every year or two that shows your projected benefits at retirement references both numbers although there is only one with earnings history.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited June 2008
    hockeyboy wrote: »
    Make sure you are getting that retirement check every month.

    Or at least collect the death benefit.
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  • doctor r
    doctor r Posts: 837
    edited June 2008
    Does this mean you don't leagally have to pay taxes anymore?
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited June 2008
    SS # as I know are not that unique as the first set of 3 are region where the next set of 2 are city. But I could imagine that some areas have a series of region and or city numbers.

    How do I know.... Once in an employee school / class the instructor ask if I lived in X one time as he seen my SS number and we where the same for the first 2 sets.

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  • mule
    mule Posts: 282
    edited June 2008
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    3,000,000 are not born each generation.

    Whoops! must be my heat stroke kickin in:eek:

    I guess I shouldn't do sprint work when its 98 degrees out.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited June 2008
    mule wrote: »
    But I wonder how many generations factor in, I really don't know when they started using them but with you math after 3 generations thay are all used up.

    Well they've only been around since 1936. I have no idea how many people have been born / assigned SSNs since then. I can't seem to find anything about people being given numbers that were once allocated to anyone else.... but I suppose eventually it will have to happen. I'm betting we'll come up with a new system by then, especially with the speed technology is working.
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  • petrym
    petrym Posts: 1,912
    edited June 2008
    Yeah, it'll be SSNv6: 2001:0db8:85a3:08d3:1319:8a2e:0370:7348 ;)
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited June 2008
    What??? Are you an illegal??;):eek::D
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  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited June 2008
    Unless you have no credit, this wouldn't be the first time it would have come up. The name and SS# need to at least match, along with the last address. Now if the dead guy and you have the same name, you may very well actually be dead. Take the week off.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited June 2008
    Now that I'm outta work, I can say that I deal with people's SS#s on a daily basis. Trust me, they don't recycle them. I've used the SS#s of several deceased people to complete an investigation. The dead are as important as the living . . . sometimes they are the best records we have.

    I'm sure it's a mistake. The guy looking up your information or the person who input the information into the database the mortgage lender is using must have done so incorrectly. Errors in the database are 90% of the inaccuracies I deal with on a daily basis. The databases are not perfect. That's why we use over fifty and check them against each other.
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited June 2008
    The SSA makes lots of mistakes. Call them and get it fixed. In my line of work I have resurrected many dead people from the Social Security Administration deceased file.
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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited June 2008
    Check with your local SS office.

    Don't quote me and this is not legal advice but I believe if you already have a mortage and there's a problem later with the paper work, the problem resolution resides with the mortgage company or the title company. They both have insurance to cover themselves in the event that they didn't do their due diligence. Of course, they'll place all the blame on you.

    I could be wrong though and it may depend on your local and state laws.
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  • mule
    mule Posts: 282
    edited June 2008
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    Well they've only been around since 1936. I have no idea how many people have been born / assigned SSNs since then. I can't seem to find anything about people being given numbers that were once allocated to anyone else.... but I suppose eventually it will have to happen. I'm betting we'll come up with a new system by then, especially with the speed technology is working.

    To keep the math simple,

    If 1/3 are grand parents, 1/3 are parents and 1/3 are children and the pop stayed at 300,000,000, then 100,000,000 grand parents would die and 100,000,000 children would be born each generation.

    If each generation lasted 70 years (just thinking average) and it took 90 to 100 generations to run out of numbers (depending on how many of the #s they use) they have 630 to 700 years of numbers

    Wow! that kind of puts into perspective your chances of actually winning the lottery, most of those have more # combinations than the ssn.

    Is there any system as to how the numbers are assigned?
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  • obieone
    obieone Posts: 5,077
    edited June 2008
    I see dead people.....posting!
    I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE!
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited June 2008
    mule wrote: »
    Is there any system as to how the numbers are assigned?

    Yup, from the link Cathy posted earlier :
    The nine-digit SSN is composed of three parts:

    * The first set of three digits is called the Area Number
    * The second set of two digits is called the Group Number
    * The final set of four digits is the Serial Number
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  • NotaSuv
    NotaSuv Posts: 3,861
    edited June 2008
    exalted512 wrote: »
    that's what my mortgage lender just told me anyway. I emailed him back confirming my number and he hasn't got back to me yet...hopefully its a mistake...but what do I do if it isn't ?
    -Cody

    ps. anyone want to loan me 30k?

    HHHHHMMMM the only ones that I know with numbers like that either crossed the river or jumped the fence :)
    and they dont pay taxes anyways.................:D
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