I am confused. Dayton, Solen and Jantzen????

engtaz
engtaz Posts: 7,664
edited June 2008 in Vintage Speakers
Dayton, Solen and Jantzen, what is the benefit to each?:confused: What make one application better for what speaker?:confused: Why why why?:confused: Or is it just trying something different?

Thanks,
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    edited May 2008
    It's like cooking, different spices give you different flavors and what works with one dish, might not work with another.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited May 2008
    The Dayton's are a little less edgy than the Solen's without giving up detail. I have not used the Jantzen's myself, but I have heard they are similar to the Dayton's.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited May 2008
    What speaker are you interested in re-capping?
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited May 2008
    Hi engtaz, I've been wondering about the same thing cuz I want to do XOs on 2 pairs of SDAs and would like them to end up with not too crispy HFs.
    Do you know anything about Polk S6 models,I need something cheap and loud to use outdoors and theres a pair available closeby I think I can pick up for a low price. Thanks! see ya over on Carver forum all the time!:)
  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited May 2008
    Hi Ben, hopefully with this , my 10th post, I'll be able to PM you now about the XO re-work ! gdb
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited May 2008
    You would probably be happy with any of those three brands. It's odd that when I did mine three years ago, I also asked about Dayton (they are re-labeled Benic's BTW), and Jantzen caps, because they were less expensive, and every one told me to stay away from them. Now they get great reviews, go figure.
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited May 2008
    I hear where you are coming from, but no big surprise here Bill. The Dayton's are a house brand, and the Solen's are a name brand. A Polkie used the Solen's due to recommendations he had heard here, and didn't like them. He switched to Dayton's. Well he offered up the Solen's here for free, and I snagged them up. After a while I it just bugged me that he said the Dayton's were much better. So I had to try them. Well just like my disbelief I used to have about cables I opened my mind, and tried them out. Much to my surprise the Dayton's were better than the Solen's. Everyones taste are different. Another Polkie tried them, and he stated they were lifeless in his speakers. I like good detailed treble, and I like the Dayton's. I won't shove either cap down anyone's throat. All tastes are different, and then there is synergy...
    Ben
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,204
    edited May 2008
    The best way to tell is to install one brand in one x-over and another brand in the other x-over and use the balance control on your pre-amp/receiver. It's called the "mono" test and I know a single solitary person that uses this method. You can even cup your hands around the tweeter to get a better idea of which is better. :D;):p:) Sorry, I just couldn't resist a little CL35M humor.

    Any of the 3 mentioned would be a good choice. I don't have a preference to whats better, but as soon as I can find a good used set of 5B xo's I'm going to rebuild them with a different brand of cap and swap them in to my current 5B's which have the Solens and see if i can tell a difference.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited May 2008
    Had to throw a little plug to SonicCaps here....
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,204
    edited May 2008
    nspindel wrote: »
    Had to throw a little plug to SonicCaps here....

    Sonicaps are the best, IMO but the cost can be prohibitive for the lesser speakers (Non-SDA). No way I was going to use Sonicaps in my 5B's.......too expensive. But they are in my 1C's :)
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited May 2008
    Ah, I didn't realize there was a price bracket difference there. My bad. But Sonicaps rock...
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • dcmeigs
    dcmeigs Posts: 708
    edited May 2008
    Cost wise it goes: Sonicap, Dayton 1%, Solen, Dayton std and Jantzen. Jantzen wins the beauty prize :D
    The world is full of answers, some are right and some are wrong. - Neil Young
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    edited May 2008
    I think Duelund has the best look.

    caps_duelund_cast.jpg
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited June 2008
    These remind me of candy wrappers.
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    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited June 2008
    The above cap is $ 107.00 ;)
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • BSUfbfan
    BSUfbfan Posts: 201
    edited June 2008
    Of the Caps ive bought and listened to extensively, I would rate as such:

    1. Mundorf (duh)
    2. Sonicaps
    3. Clarity Cap SA (very close to Sonicap quality @ half the price)
    4. Bennic (Dayton)
    SDA SRS 2.3