Suggestions on placing these speakers
metal83
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I was wondering if anyone had any input on good placement for these speakers (RTiA1's). I dont have much to work with considering my couch has to be up against the wall.
I have polk RTi10 towers up front and really want to put the same exact towers in the back as well. But i'm not sure if that would be smart given the small space.
Here are some pics. Thanks in advance.
I have polk RTi10 towers up front and really want to put the same exact towers in the back as well. But i'm not sure if that would be smart given the small space.
Here are some pics. Thanks in advance.
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If you can raise them up to above ear level. I have use dvd cases before just remember that if you do that it can fall over.If life had more tubes it would be a lot smoother.
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I would place one above the doorway and the other one directly across from it.CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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I would do one of two things....
1) Mount them on the side walls between the doorway and corner using B-Tech wall mounts. (about 3' above your seated position)
2) leave them where they are but turn them twords the corner (so they are not shooting right at the people sitting on the couch.) If you choose to do this, take the distance from the speaker to corner back to the couch in your distance measurement in your AVR also adjust the volume (of course) to match the other channels. If you choose to use towers, you can do the same thing. (sit them next to the couch facing the corners)
Good luck,
MichaelMains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms) -
I would place one above the doorway and the other one directly across from it.
I was thinking about that. I should of thought it about it before i ran wires though. I ran enough wires to have the speakers where they are now, or up on the wall behind the couch. So it would be one hell of a pain in the **** to run new wires. I ran the wires both together going around one side of the room, tacked up perfect and barely noticeable. I mean if that would be my best option i could just go buy more wire and rerun everything, but wow would that suck bad lol. -
Get some flat wire and slice them at the current location. You can paint over the wire as it goes up the wall. Sure, it's not ideal but it will do everything its supposed to do.CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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I would do one of two things....
1) Mount them on the side walls between the doorway and corner using B-Tech wall mounts. (about 3' above your seated position)
2) leave them where they are but turn them twords the corner (so they are not shooting right at the people sitting on the couch.) If you choose to do this, take the distance from the speaker to corner back to the couch in your distance measurement in your AVR also adjust the volume (of course) to match the other channels. If you choose to use towers, you can do the same thing. (sit them next to the couch facing the corners)
Good luck,
Michael
So if it did it your first way, the speakers would practically be up against the wall since there is not much space between the wall and doorway. Would that be ok though. have one side of the speaker (not the back of course) up againt the wall?
And for your number too, i'm not quite sure what you mean by face them towards the corners. Do you mean completely flip them around from the way they are now (i'm assuming this isnt the case), or face them corners across the room? -
Get some flat wire and slice them at the current location. You can paint over the wire as it goes up the wall. Sure, it's not ideal but it will do everything its supposed to do.
Well i'm not to worried about having a little wire showing, so could i just splice into the wire i have, and attach the same wire to it. Could this potentially creat problems, having the wire spliced and connected to another? And also, i was always under the impression that you want the same length wire running from left to right, so would i have to do this for both speakers because of that?
And if i did it above the doorway, obviously i'd want the other speaker directly across form it, but i only have a bout 14inches of wall because of the room split (or archway). So the speakers would end up being practically against the ceiling. -
By the way, thank you guys. I appreciate you going back and fourth on this with me:).
They do sound sort of ok how they are, all tho i did turn em a bit. The sucky thing though is that i really cant hear the right speaker, when i sit on the left side of the couch, and vise versa.
Also my surrounds Drivers are 5.25" vs my fronts and center's 6.5" Drivers. I was actually thinking of upgrading to the A3's because they have the matching Driver. And also if i just go with the towers, obviously everything will be matched. But would it make much difference? -
Timbre matching is more important than matching driver sizes.
Hold onto the A1's for the rear, and if you're not happy with your setup, consider eventually upgrading the RTiA's for the front too."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche -
Well i'm not to worried about having a little wire showing, so could i just splice into the wire i have, and attach the same wire to it. Could this potentially creat problems, having the wire spliced and connected to another? And also, i was always under the impression that you want the same length wire running from left to right, so would i have to do this for both speakers because of that?
And if i did it above the doorway, obviously i'd want the other speaker directly across form it, but i only have a bout 14inches of wall because of the room split (or archway). So the speakers would end up being practically against the ceiling.
My surrounds are about 4 inches off the ceiling. As long as you wire it correctly, I don't foresee a problem. How much longer/shorter is the other length?CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint. -
Well i just picked up all of my equipment last week. I got the RTi10's buy get one free at Tweeter for $480. So upgrading the fronts to the A's is not going to be an option (probably not for a long time). I cant see spending another $520 for almost the same speaker. Not that i wouldnt love to have the A'7 up front though. But as far as i have heard the RTi and RTiA lines are still a Timbre match.Timbre matching is more important than matching driver sizes.
Hold onto the A1's for the rear, and if you're not happy with your setup, consider eventually upgrading the RTiA's for the front too.
The only reason i am even considering the towers for the rear is because i'd only have to pay an extra $180 for them if i returned my A1's.My surrounds are about 4 inches off the ceiling. As long as you wire it correctly, I don't foresee a problem. How much longer/shorter is the other length?
Well both my surrounds are using 50ft of wire each. I'd need an additional 8ft of wire to get my right speaker up above that doorway. The left speaker wouldnt need any additional wire. -
Don't worry about an 8' difference.CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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Ok, well thats good to know. In that case i could try it out easily.Don't worry about an 8' difference.
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So if it did it your first way, the speakers would practically be up against the wall since there is not much space between the wall and doorway. Would that be ok though. have one side of the speaker (not the back of course) up againt the wall?
And for your number too, i'm not quite sure what you mean by face them towards the corners. Do you mean completely flip them around from the way they are now (i'm assuming this isnt the case), or face them corners across the room?
#1 - should be fine. If you want to find out first, stick one up there on a stepladder or something see how it sounds before you start drilling holes in your walls.
#2 - you assume wrong... If you were standing in the back left corner, point your back left speaker straight at you. (back right speaker points at the back right corner.) The backs of the speakers point at the room that way, but that is the downside of this method. What this will give you is when you are on the couch, you can sit anywhere and still hear both speakers. (because you are increasing the distance from your speakers to your seating position.) It really does work pretty well with surrounds, it won't cost you anything but some setup time to give it a shot - let us know what you think of the sound that way....
MichaelMains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms) -
#1- Yeah that sounds like a good idea, using a ladder to place the speaker up before i drill any holes. I'll definetly have to give that a shot and see how it goes.#1 - should be fine. If you want to find out first, stick one up there on a stepladder or something see how it sounds before you start drilling holes in your walls.
#2 - you assume wrong... If you were standing in the back left corner, point your back left speaker straight at you. (back right speaker points at the back right corner.) The backs of the speakers point at the room that way, but that is the downside of this method. What this will give you is when you are on the couch, you can sit anywhere and still hear both speakers. (because you are increasing the distance from your speakers to your seating position.) It really does work pretty well with surrounds, it won't cost you anything but some setup time to give it a shot - let us know what you think of the sound that way....
Michael
#2- My assumption was definetly wrong, i appologize. I guess the thought of pointing the speakers at the wall just threw me off, so i figured you meant something else. I will have to give that a try though and see how it sounds, as that would be an incredibly easy solution if i dont want to hang them.
Now, i have another question for you, or anyone who wants to chime in. Lets say i place the speakers in your #1 method. Right next to the wall in between the door, and the other one directly across from it. Then i add two more speakers, one above the end of the door and above the over hang directly across from it. The speakers could probably be about 3' or 4' away from each other. Do you think this could work if i wanted to go 7.1, or would this not be ideal? I'm just trying to think of all possible setups.
