Advice needed on Lsi Setup

Devlon
Devlon Posts: 355
edited May 2008 in Basic Hookup/Wiring Questions
Hello! My name is Devlon, and I am new here. I really need advice on completing my Lsi 5.1 HT system. I have a Velodyne SPL1000R sub, 2 Lsi9's, and and Lsic. I am now looking for some Lsi's for rears to complete my 5.1 system. Space is a major consideration. This system will be used 90% of the time for music. I need some opinions on which Lsi speakers to choose for the rears? I guess my choices are another set of Lsi9's, the Lsi7's, or the Lsifx's. I have never heard the Lsi7's, or the Lsifx's. Would the Lsi7's sound ok, or would I be better off with the Lsifx's considering that I could mount them up on the wall out of the way.? How do the fx's sound for music? Are they pretty good? How would they compare to the Lsi7's say? Again, I suspect the Lsi9's might sound the best, but are they really necessary for the rears? My living room is an "L" shape unfortunately, and so no matter what speakers I use, they will have to go on the walls left and right of my head. Any opinions you guys have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again, Devlon
Living Room: HK AVR 354 as pre/pro, 2 x Polk Audio Micropro 4000, Adcom GFA-7500, 2 x Mirage OMD-15
2 x Mirage OMD-5, 1 x Mirage OMD-C1, APC H15, Sony S790, Philips 52" LCD, Beogram 3000, FAT (Firestone Audio Tobby DAC), Harmony One

Den: Sherwood R-972,as pre/pro, 2 x Velodyne SPL-1000R, 3 x Crown Drivecore XLS1500, 2 x Polk Audio Lsi9
1 x Polk Audio Lsic, 2 x Polk Audio Lsifx, Sony S790, APC H15, Dspeaker Dual Core 2.0, W4S DAC 2, Keces DA-151
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited May 2008
    Welcome to Club Polk.
    I agree with Keilo, but I do like the LSiFX in the rear. I have the LSi9's in the front and a LSiC as well. 5.1 sound is awesome, but I'm a 2CH guy for music.
    Michael ;)
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited May 2008
    Even though your going 90% music, I'd still choose the LSiFX for the rear channels. Regardless of the room design, they will "fill" that area better than a directional speaker like the LSi7/LSi9. You can also choose a bipole or dipole configuration depending on which one sounds best to you, in your room. I like that flexibility.

    I currently use LSiFX for multi-channel media and believe it works very well.

    IF you decide on a direct radiating bookshelf, the LSi7 would be my choice for rear channels. I think the LSi9 is overkill for that application.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited May 2008
    Little off your initial question, but, if it were me, unless I had a huge room, I'd keep the current 5.1 setup and make sure I had the best amp, processor, and source I could with the money I had available for the system.

    5 LSis sounds like it would fill up a room nicely.
    Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
    Bedroom: Samsung HPR-4252, Toshiba HD-A2, HK 3480, Signal Cable, AQ speaker cable, Totem Dreamcatchers, SVS PB10-NSD, URC MX-850
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  • Devlon
    Devlon Posts: 355
    edited May 2008
    Hi Andy, and thanks for your response! But on your previous answer "Little off your initial question, but, if it were me, unless I had a huge room, I'd keep the current 5.1 setup and make sure I had the best amp, processor, and source I could with the money I had available for the system.", I don't have a 5.1 set up yet. That is what I am pursuing. So, I'm not sure which Lsi's you are suggesting? Thanks, Devlon
    Living Room: HK AVR 354 as pre/pro, 2 x Polk Audio Micropro 4000, Adcom GFA-7500, 2 x Mirage OMD-15
    2 x Mirage OMD-5, 1 x Mirage OMD-C1, APC H15, Sony S790, Philips 52" LCD, Beogram 3000, FAT (Firestone Audio Tobby DAC), Harmony One

    Den: Sherwood R-972,as pre/pro, 2 x Velodyne SPL-1000R, 3 x Crown Drivecore XLS1500, 2 x Polk Audio Lsi9
    1 x Polk Audio Lsic, 2 x Polk Audio Lsifx, Sony S790, APC H15, Dspeaker Dual Core 2.0, W4S DAC 2, Keces DA-151
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,092
    edited May 2008
    LSiFx's for sure. Fantastic sounding for multi-channel music & HT. Just a great speaker for all applications. Now throw in their mounting flexibilities & mode switches & they're hard to beat.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited May 2008
    If it is mainly for multi-channel music, I would get another pair of 9's.

    If movies, 7's or Fx's. Room placement would make my decision between 7's or fx's. (if more than 1' out of a corner, fx's if sitting in a corner, 7's.
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited May 2008
    AndyGwis wrote: »
    Little off your initial question, but, if it were me, unless I had a huge room, I'd keep the current 5.1 setup and make sure I had the best amp, processor, and source I could with the money I had available for the system.

    5 LSis sounds like it would fill up a room nicely.

    Andy - He's trying to decide on the other 2 speakers....in his current 3.1 setup.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • scottnbnj
    scottnbnj Posts: 709
    edited May 2008
    Devlon wrote: »
    ... and so no matter what speakers I use, they will have to go on the walls left and right of my head. ...

    welcome Devlon. i don't know if it makes a difference, but 7's and fx's can be mounted to the wall with keyhole slots on the back of the speakers, 9's can not. you'll have to buy or fabricate brackets, shelves or stands for those. i think there are threads here about what's worked for others with 9's.

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  • Devlon
    Devlon Posts: 355
    edited May 2008
    Thanks for you input Scott. I had not thought through far enough about the mounting. I was only thinking about the sound. That automatically eliminates another set of Lsi9's. Devlon
    Living Room: HK AVR 354 as pre/pro, 2 x Polk Audio Micropro 4000, Adcom GFA-7500, 2 x Mirage OMD-15
    2 x Mirage OMD-5, 1 x Mirage OMD-C1, APC H15, Sony S790, Philips 52" LCD, Beogram 3000, FAT (Firestone Audio Tobby DAC), Harmony One

    Den: Sherwood R-972,as pre/pro, 2 x Velodyne SPL-1000R, 3 x Crown Drivecore XLS1500, 2 x Polk Audio Lsi9
    1 x Polk Audio Lsic, 2 x Polk Audio Lsifx, Sony S790, APC H15, Dspeaker Dual Core 2.0, W4S DAC 2, Keces DA-151
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  • Devlon
    Devlon Posts: 355
    edited May 2008
    Michael, thanks for your response! You've made me think about, and conclude, that I'm mostly a 2 ch. guy for music too. Just like listening to music 90% of the time, I probably listen to the fronts 90%/rears 10% in the volume balance of listening to music....at least, that's how I balance it on my friends system. The Lsifx's are an interesting design. I'm leaning towards buying some, I just wished I could hear them first. Thanks, Devlon
    Living Room: HK AVR 354 as pre/pro, 2 x Polk Audio Micropro 4000, Adcom GFA-7500, 2 x Mirage OMD-15
    2 x Mirage OMD-5, 1 x Mirage OMD-C1, APC H15, Sony S790, Philips 52" LCD, Beogram 3000, FAT (Firestone Audio Tobby DAC), Harmony One

    Den: Sherwood R-972,as pre/pro, 2 x Velodyne SPL-1000R, 3 x Crown Drivecore XLS1500, 2 x Polk Audio Lsi9
    1 x Polk Audio Lsic, 2 x Polk Audio Lsifx, Sony S790, APC H15, Dspeaker Dual Core 2.0, W4S DAC 2, Keces DA-151
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited May 2008
    Maybe there are some folks close to you that you could go and have a listen. Any dealers close by?
    Michael ;)
    In the beginning, all knowledge was new!
    NORTH of 60°
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  • Devlon
    Devlon Posts: 355
    edited May 2008
    I'm leaning that way. Thanks for your response Keiko!
    Living Room: HK AVR 354 as pre/pro, 2 x Polk Audio Micropro 4000, Adcom GFA-7500, 2 x Mirage OMD-15
    2 x Mirage OMD-5, 1 x Mirage OMD-C1, APC H15, Sony S790, Philips 52" LCD, Beogram 3000, FAT (Firestone Audio Tobby DAC), Harmony One

    Den: Sherwood R-972,as pre/pro, 2 x Velodyne SPL-1000R, 3 x Crown Drivecore XLS1500, 2 x Polk Audio Lsi9
    1 x Polk Audio Lsic, 2 x Polk Audio Lsifx, Sony S790, APC H15, Dspeaker Dual Core 2.0, W4S DAC 2, Keces DA-151
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  • Devlon
    Devlon Posts: 355
    edited May 2008
    Even though I agree with you, and understand the the Lsifx's would fill a room better, I'm after sound quality as it pertains to music. I'm still uncertain as far as " music sound quality" if the 7's and the Fx's are equal to each, or if one dominates, and how much so, when it comes to music. Thanks!
    Living Room: HK AVR 354 as pre/pro, 2 x Polk Audio Micropro 4000, Adcom GFA-7500, 2 x Mirage OMD-15
    2 x Mirage OMD-5, 1 x Mirage OMD-C1, APC H15, Sony S790, Philips 52" LCD, Beogram 3000, FAT (Firestone Audio Tobby DAC), Harmony One

    Den: Sherwood R-972,as pre/pro, 2 x Velodyne SPL-1000R, 3 x Crown Drivecore XLS1500, 2 x Polk Audio Lsi9
    1 x Polk Audio Lsic, 2 x Polk Audio Lsifx, Sony S790, APC H15, Dspeaker Dual Core 2.0, W4S DAC 2, Keces DA-151
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  • Devlon
    Devlon Posts: 355
    edited May 2008
    So you find these mode switches useful?
    Living Room: HK AVR 354 as pre/pro, 2 x Polk Audio Micropro 4000, Adcom GFA-7500, 2 x Mirage OMD-15
    2 x Mirage OMD-5, 1 x Mirage OMD-C1, APC H15, Sony S790, Philips 52" LCD, Beogram 3000, FAT (Firestone Audio Tobby DAC), Harmony One

    Den: Sherwood R-972,as pre/pro, 2 x Velodyne SPL-1000R, 3 x Crown Drivecore XLS1500, 2 x Polk Audio Lsi9
    1 x Polk Audio Lsic, 2 x Polk Audio Lsifx, Sony S790, APC H15, Dspeaker Dual Core 2.0, W4S DAC 2, Keces DA-151
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  • Devlon
    Devlon Posts: 355
    edited May 2008
    I think I need both the 7's, and the FX's with toggle switch....lol!
    Living Room: HK AVR 354 as pre/pro, 2 x Polk Audio Micropro 4000, Adcom GFA-7500, 2 x Mirage OMD-15
    2 x Mirage OMD-5, 1 x Mirage OMD-C1, APC H15, Sony S790, Philips 52" LCD, Beogram 3000, FAT (Firestone Audio Tobby DAC), Harmony One

    Den: Sherwood R-972,as pre/pro, 2 x Velodyne SPL-1000R, 3 x Crown Drivecore XLS1500, 2 x Polk Audio Lsi9
    1 x Polk Audio Lsic, 2 x Polk Audio Lsifx, Sony S790, APC H15, Dspeaker Dual Core 2.0, W4S DAC 2, Keces DA-151
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  • Devlon
    Devlon Posts: 355
    edited May 2008
    I wish! 70 miles south is Nashville, none there. 125 miles north is Louisville, none there either. Nothing east, or west of me. Frustrating! I think Polk should require it dealers to carry at least a demo set of these! Although, hearing them in a showroom somewhere will not reveal how they're gonna sound in my living room anyway!
    Living Room: HK AVR 354 as pre/pro, 2 x Polk Audio Micropro 4000, Adcom GFA-7500, 2 x Mirage OMD-15
    2 x Mirage OMD-5, 1 x Mirage OMD-C1, APC H15, Sony S790, Philips 52" LCD, Beogram 3000, FAT (Firestone Audio Tobby DAC), Harmony One

    Den: Sherwood R-972,as pre/pro, 2 x Velodyne SPL-1000R, 3 x Crown Drivecore XLS1500, 2 x Polk Audio Lsi9
    1 x Polk Audio Lsic, 2 x Polk Audio Lsifx, Sony S790, APC H15, Dspeaker Dual Core 2.0, W4S DAC 2, Keces DA-151
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited May 2008
    I hear you. I have no dealers within 1,000 miles of me. It's up to you, but I do not think you would regret going with the FX's. If you go with the 7's you may always wonder. Sorry, didn't mean to complicate things. Good luck.
    Michael ;)
    In the beginning, all knowledge was new!
    NORTH of 60°
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,092
    edited May 2008
    Any Tweeter's near you? If so, pick up the speakers there & do an in home comparison. They're very good with their return policy. Just a thought.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited May 2008
    They use the same drivers, so it's not about sound quality per se. If you were using a pair of LSiFX for your main speakers vs a pair of LSi7....you'd have a sound quality issue. You're using them as surround speakers, not for point source, critical or near field listening.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • Devlon
    Devlon Posts: 355
    edited May 2008
    Very good point dorokusai. That hits the nail on the head! Thanks again, Devlon
    Living Room: HK AVR 354 as pre/pro, 2 x Polk Audio Micropro 4000, Adcom GFA-7500, 2 x Mirage OMD-15
    2 x Mirage OMD-5, 1 x Mirage OMD-C1, APC H15, Sony S790, Philips 52" LCD, Beogram 3000, FAT (Firestone Audio Tobby DAC), Harmony One

    Den: Sherwood R-972,as pre/pro, 2 x Velodyne SPL-1000R, 3 x Crown Drivecore XLS1500, 2 x Polk Audio Lsi9
    1 x Polk Audio Lsic, 2 x Polk Audio Lsifx, Sony S790, APC H15, Dspeaker Dual Core 2.0, W4S DAC 2, Keces DA-151
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