What should I offer the seller for these Monitor 10s?

average_guy
average_guy Posts: 236
edited May 2008 in Vintage Speakers
http://columbus.craigslist.org/ele/678823620.html

Posted on local CL. The seller had posted them on CL earlier for $275 and when they did not sell he posted them on e-bay for a buy-it-now of $300, and now they are back on the local CL.

I'm thinking I should offer something like $185 but I don't know if that is in the reasonable range to offer. Given the sale price history I'm thinking I could start at $185 and see where the negotiations progress to.

I have a pair of Monitor 7s and a pair of R15s with a Sansui 7070 running them. I would either replace the R15s with these or build another vintage system around the Monitor 10s.

Any opinion / experiences would be helpful, and thanks in advance!
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited May 2008
    I can't stand when people list a item for $1 and then have a different price in the ad.

    They are peerless which is nice, but that price is still high.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • bdaley6509
    bdaley6509 Posts: 1,167
    edited May 2008
    They probably do that to indicate the price is negotiable.
  • Big Dog
    Big Dog Posts: 7
    edited May 2008
    Partner, I'd shop around. I picked up a set in good condition, just normal wear and dings for 25 + years for $69 on the 'bay. Even with a sketchy tweeter I'm still going to be in just over a Benjamin total for the set after repairs.
  • michael_w
    michael_w Posts: 2,813
    edited May 2008
    Amazing condition but you're right, $185 or maybe even 200 is probably the highest I'd go. He'll probably be offended by an offer that's nearly half his asking price but it's worth a shot since they're overpriced in the ads.

    My 7's were in the area of 80 - 100 but are in a lot worse condition.
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited May 2008
    I wouldn't offer over $150.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited May 2008
    Local is a big plus. They do have the peerless which saves you on the tweeter upgrade. Say you got them at $200, and they are mint You would be done minus a possible crossover upgrade. Those monitor 10's are the best monitor 10's made. The only negative is that you are real close at that price range to getting some SDA's.
    Ben
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  • Boywonder
    Boywonder Posts: 225
    edited May 2008
    I just sold a pair of very clean 10B's (SL-2000 tweeters) for $125 on Craigslist.

    At the dollars you are offering/negotiating, you can almost get into SDA's 2's if you are patient.....
  • hangon
    hangon Posts: 228
    edited May 2008
    I seen a pair here in Utah sell for $175.00. I have the exact pair and they are an awesome entry level speaker.
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  • average_guy
    average_guy Posts: 236
    edited May 2008
    Thanks for the info everyone. I am apparently not getting e-mail updates of replies so I'm going to have to check my account settings.

    I like the idea of snapping up some SDAs for close to that price. I admit I have not seen anything close to that price for any SDA that I have seen for sale so far.

    I have corresponded with the seller of the Monitor 10s just before he listed them on e-bay (where they did not sell at buy-it-now of $300) and he offered them to me for $275 at that point. They are still on the CL.

    I'm gonna wait. Who knows? Maybe a set of SDAs will come up in an affordable price range. That's something that would be SO sweet!
  • Boywonder
    Boywonder Posts: 225
    edited May 2008
    I like the idea of snapping up some SDAs for close to that price. I admit I have not seen anything close to that price for any SDA that I have seen for sale so far.

    I'm gonna wait. Who knows? Maybe a set of SDAs will come up in an affordable price range. That's something that would be SO sweet!

    Be patient and wait for a pair of SDA's, It will be worth it.
  • dcmeigs
    dcmeigs Posts: 708
    edited May 2008
    Boywonder wrote: »
    Be patient and wait for a pair of SDA's, It will be worth it.

    +1. Finding the right pair is all part of the fun. Your patience will be rewarded.
    The world is full of answers, some are right and some are wrong. - Neil Young
  • hangon
    hangon Posts: 228
    edited May 2008
    Here is some 10's for really cheap http://www.ksl.com/?nid=218&ad=3322364&cat=&lpid=
    HT Theater

    SRS-SDA 2.3tl RDO's
    Custom Center made out of a RTA15tl
    Pioneer Elite SC-25 Receiver
    CineNova Grande 5 channel Amp
    Klipsch KA-1000-THX Sub Amp
    (2)Klipsch KW-120-THX Subs

    Basement System

    SRS-SDA 1.2 upgraded Xover
    Pioneer Elite SC-25 Receiver
    ADCOM GFA 5500
    ADCOM GFA 5503
    Yahama P7000S Pro Audio Amp
    dbx 120x-ds Sub-harmonic Synthesizer
    2-JBL 4645C Subs
    1-Paradigm SW2200 Sub
    Klipsch Reference in wall's
  • average_guy
    average_guy Posts: 236
    edited May 2008
    dcmeigs wrote: »
    +1. Finding the right pair is all part of the fun. Your patience will be rewarded.

    I'll look forward to the day when I find them. Hopefully I can share it with those of you who have offered your encouragement.
  • average_guy
    average_guy Posts: 236
    edited May 2008
    hangon wrote: »
    Here is some 10's for really cheap http://www.ksl.com/?nid=218&ad=3322364&cat=&lpid=

    I wish I was in Utah. I really don't want to ship speakers, but I must say that the price is right. (I paid $80 for my Monitor 7Cs with local pckup.)

    Thanks for the link...I might just contact the seller and at least see what happens.
  • dcmeigs
    dcmeigs Posts: 708
    edited May 2008
    I really like the Monitor 10. I bought a local pair for around $100 of CL intending to part them out for the four MW6501 drivers I needed for a SDA 1A project. I like them so well I kept them and intend to upgrade the crossovers with polypropylene caps.

    There wouldn't be any harm in latching onto a pair at the right price while you wait for the SDAs you want. Try to find an minty older pair (like these in Columbus) with the Peerless tweeters. In my view, they are a lot more valuable than the newer models because the Peerless is a very fine tweeter; a keeper.

    If you buy a newer pair with the SL2000 tweeters, you will probably end up spending another $98 to buy the RD0194 replacement tweeters.

    BTW-Some were made with SL3000s but I've never seen one.
    The world is full of answers, some are right and some are wrong. - Neil Young
  • average_guy
    average_guy Posts: 236
    edited May 2008
    dcmeigs wrote: »
    I really like the Monitor 10. I bought a local pair for around $100 of CL intending to part them out for the four MW6501 drivers I needed for a SDA 1A project. I like them so well I kept them and intend to upgrade the crossovers with polypropylene caps.

    There wouldn't be any harm in latching onto a pair at the right price while you wait for the SDAs you want. Try to find an minty older pair (like these in Columbus) with the Peerless tweeters. In my view, they are a lot more valuable than the newer models because the Peerless is a very fine tweeter; a keeper.

    If you buy a newer pair with the SL2000 tweeters, you will probably end up spending another $98 to buy the RD0194 replacement tweeters.

    BTW-Some were made with SL3000s but I've never seen one.

    So you might be saying that an offer of $200 or less might be fair for a pair like the one I am asking about, because of the condition and the Peerless tweeters? (I assumed that the pair you got for $100 didn't have the Peerless?) I know some folks on here don't prefer the Peerless because the sound is "too bright" but there are factors including the listening environment, signal source, and even the ear of the hearer that affect that observation.

    Thanks for the post.
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited May 2008
    I wouldn't pay over $200 for a pair of Monitor 10's unless they were dipped in gold. The fact that they have the Peerless tweeter does raise the value, but his prices are still way high. IMO, I would say $150 would be a fair price.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • dcmeigs
    dcmeigs Posts: 708
    edited May 2008
    +1. I wrote "at the right price".

    I would offer $100, give him you email address and tell him you will have cash in hand when he is ready to move them. I imagine that, in a few weeks, he'll call you with a more tempting offer.

    These speakers are not going to sell at the price he is asking IMHO.

    BTW- Mine do have the peerless tweeters.
    The world is full of answers, some are right and some are wrong. - Neil Young
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited May 2008
    dorokusai wrote: »
    I wouldn't offer over $150.

    Agreed; even as tempting as mint with boxes is.
  • average_guy
    average_guy Posts: 236
    edited May 2008
    dcmeigs wrote: »
    +1. I wrote "at the right price".

    I would offer $100, give him you email address and tell him you will have cash in hand when he is ready to move them. I imagine that, in a few weeks, he'll call you with a more tempting offer.

    These speakers are not going to sell at the price he is asking IMHO.

    BTW- Mine do have the peerless tweeters.

    Thanks, I just wasn't clear. I appreciate your input.
  • average_guy
    average_guy Posts: 236
    edited May 2008
    dcmeigs wrote: »
    +1. I wrote "at the right price".

    I would offer $100, give him you email address and tell him you will have cash in hand when he is ready to move them. I imagine that, in a few weeks, he'll call you with a more tempting offer.

    These speakers are not going to sell at the price he is asking IMHO.

    BTW- Mine do have the peerless tweeters.

    They're still listed. I'll run the $100 offer up the flagpole and see what kind of salute I get.


    I'll post here if anything develops.
  • michael_w
    michael_w Posts: 2,813
    edited May 2008
    Probably won't be a good reaction at first but maybe he'll realize it's way over what it should be. When I get offers of about 25 - 50% of what my asking price is I'm not usually too happy or ignore them all together, but that's usually just a bunch of lowballers trying to take down an already good price so this is a different situation.
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited May 2008
    $300 is nuts, but $100 is insulting if the guy has any idea what they are worth. These have the peerless guys.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
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  • dcmeigs
    dcmeigs Posts: 708
    edited May 2008
    ben62670 wrote: »
    $300 is nuts, but $100 is insulting if the guy has any idea what they are worth. These have the peerless guys.


    I'd say $300 is insulting, but $100 is nuts. :D
    The world is full of answers, some are right and some are wrong. - Neil Young
  • michael_w
    michael_w Posts: 2,813
    edited May 2008
    With craigslist, everytime I've listed something the first 5 replies are quick lowballers doing this exact same thing. It's annoying and a waste of time for both parties. I say either let this one pass as they're clearly overpriced or offer him a little more than a single bill.
  • average_guy
    average_guy Posts: 236
    edited May 2008
    My original thought was $185, but maybe start at $150?

    Thanks for all the replies by the way...
  • hangon
    hangon Posts: 228
    edited May 2008
    hangon wrote: »
    Here is some 10's for really cheap http://www.ksl.com/?nid=218&ad=3322364&cat=&lpid=
    I had to go and see them. I pulled $40.00 from my pocket and now they are mine. They have the sl2000 in them with a 1991 build date. The condition is fair to good, but for the price I had to get them.
    HT Theater

    SRS-SDA 2.3tl RDO's
    Custom Center made out of a RTA15tl
    Pioneer Elite SC-25 Receiver
    CineNova Grande 5 channel Amp
    Klipsch KA-1000-THX Sub Amp
    (2)Klipsch KW-120-THX Subs

    Basement System

    SRS-SDA 1.2 upgraded Xover
    Pioneer Elite SC-25 Receiver
    ADCOM GFA 5500
    ADCOM GFA 5503
    Yahama P7000S Pro Audio Amp
    dbx 120x-ds Sub-harmonic Synthesizer
    2-JBL 4645C Subs
    1-Paradigm SW2200 Sub
    Klipsch Reference in wall's
  • dcmeigs
    dcmeigs Posts: 708
    edited May 2008
    Stands too! Good for you. Enjoy!
    The world is full of answers, some are right and some are wrong. - Neil Young