accurate world map
bikezappa
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http://www.petersmap.com/page2.html
I was shocked when I first saw this map. But I realized that the old maps were not correct because the equator was 2/3 down and not in the center of the map. The equator should be in the center of the world map. By locating the equaltor 2/3s down the map exaggerates the sizes of the Northern land masses.
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I was shocked when I first saw this map. But I realized that the old maps were not correct because the equator was 2/3 down and not in the center of the map. The equator should be in the center of the world map. By locating the equaltor 2/3s down the map exaggerates the sizes of the Northern land masses.
Check it out.
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The problem is that the world's a sphere (to a good approximation) and a piece of paper is flat!
The Mercator is probably the worst projection that still sees some use. There are many others, which the link doesn't seem to mention (although, admittedly, I just skimmed it). Fortunately, globes are pretty readily available today, too. -
yes it is distorted when you project a sphere on to a flat paper, but why would you make the equator 2/3s down.
Look at the comparisons of the areas of Greenland to Africa, 800,000 sq miles for Greenland and 11,600,000 sq miles for Africa yet they are the same size on the map. The peters map shows the differences accurately. -
Umm, no.
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And such a high-quality modern web page to boot!If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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yes it is distorted when you project a sphere on to a flat paper, but why would you make the equator 2/3s down.
Look at the comparisons of the areas of Greenland to Africa, 800,000 sq miles for Greenland and 11,600,000 sq miles for Africa yet they are the same size on the map. The peters map shows the differences accurately.
Politics takes precedent over truth. It's convenient to make America and Europe appear much larger than they really are.HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50 LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub
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Politics takes precedent over truth. It's convenient to make America and Europe appear much larger than they really are.
Antarctica must have some huge political pull then. It's a vast penguin conspiracy!If you will it, dude, it is no dream. -
Politics takes precedent over truth. It's convenient to make America and Europe appear much larger than they really are.
He who makes the maps makes the rules.
That's are very interesting comment. The original map makers were the Germans. If you draw diagonal lines from each corner of the Mercator map, that's the distorted one we all see in school and TV and everywhere, they intersect at Germany.
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bobman1235 wrote: »Antarctica must have some huge political pull then. It's a vast penguin conspiracy!
The Mercator Map completely cuts off Antarctica. The penguins have no vote. -
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Not sure I understand the reference, but the map has the equator in the center. -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercator_projection
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gall-Peters_projection
Does this help? Its just different ways of unwraping a shpere onto a plane. The equator should be in the center on both maps. The one in your link is cut off on the bottom or something.7.1 HOME THEATER:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercator_projection
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gall-Peters_projection
Does this help? Its just different ways of unwraping a shpere onto a plane. The equator should be in the center on both maps. The one in your link is cut off on the bottom or something.
Wow the Gall-Peters map is very graphic with the equator in the middle.
Thanks for that link.
I was just shocked that most all the maps ever shown to me have the equator 2/3s down from the top making the North hemishire 50% larger.
I wonder if most black people know this? Jesse Jackson did you know this? Grin.
When the map goes to the very top of the globe as shown in your links it gets very distorted. -
Why this correct map interests me.
Remember the smart **** kid in grammar school that always asked the question: “Teacher why is Greenland so large on the wall map and so small on the globe? Well Johnny that’s because the map gets distorted when you make the globe flat.”
BS. It’s when you make the bottom half of the world 1/3 smaller than the top half of the wall map.
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Why this correct map interests me.
Remember the smart **** kid in grammar school that always asked the question: Teacher why is Greenland so large on the wall map and so small on the globe? Well Johnny thats because the map gets distorted when you make the globe flat.
BS. Its when you make the bottom half of the world 1/3 smaller than the top half of the wall map.
Its called distorting our perception of the world.
Hmmmm. American school kids are clueless about world geography and politics compared to kids in many other countries. They're effed up from day one -- as soon as they look at a freakin' map.HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50 LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub
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Hmmmm. American school kids are clueless about world geography and politics compared to kids in many other countries. They're effed up from day one -- as soon as they look at a freakin' map.
This question about the world map happened to me in the 1950s so I guess things have changed. -
Here's an interesting read: http://www.sntp.net/education/education_stats.htm
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the Earth is round??? really...............hhhhhhhhhhmmmmmm
no falling off the edge then............. -
Here's an interesting read: http://www.sntp.net/education/education_stats.htm
The stats on this link are a bit dated, but still relevant today.
That is a very depressing read. I didn't know the SAT scores had fallen so dramatically and for so long. They, teachers and administrators don't appear to have a fix. And it's not the fault of TV and working parents.
So many people are concerned about what to teach: sex, evolution, stem cell reseach and funding that the boat may have sailed without us.
I remember the statistic: more students graduate with a degree in exercise than electrical engineering in the US today. And we are a country of fat people. WTF.
I have had a the Peters map on my wall at work for 15 years and only two people have noticed that it is shaped oddly.
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Some of you guys REALLY need to relax. You're oh so educated in your vast conspiracies, why don't you read about the real reasons we use the Mercator map. Which is DUTCH (well, Flemish), not American, and was created over 400 years ago (before America existed).If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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the Earth is round??? really...............hhhhhhhhhhmmmmmm
no falling off the edge then.............
Certain people knew the earth was round before BC. They even calculated the circumferance to with in 1%.
They did it by digging two holes, measuring distances and recording time accurately.
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bobman1235 wrote: »Some of you guys REALLY need to relax. You're oh so educated in your vast conspiracies, why don't you read about the real reasons we use the Mercator map. Which is DUTCH (well, Flemish), not American, and was created over 400 years ago (before America existed).
My point about the mercator map, that you used in gramma school, high school and college and see every where, is that the equator is located 2/3s from the top. That distorts. You are corrrect that this map is very useful for navigation. All flat maps have distort, I agree.
But why make the map even more distorted by changing the location of the equator? The equator should be in the center of the map.
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My point about the mercator map, that you used in gramma school, high school and college and see every where, is that the equator is located 2/3s from the top. That distorts. You are corrrect that this map is very useful for navigation. All flat maps have distort, I agree.
But why make the map even more distorted by changing the location of the equator? The equator should be in the center of the map.
The conspiracy is why would map makes do that?
The only reason that SOME maps have the equator so far down is so there isn't a huge blob of Antarctica at the bottom. Compare the full map with the more common one.If you will it, dude, it is no dream. -
In the classroom, boardroom or bedroom an alternate presentation of the planet will
jostle our thinking and help us create new mental maps which in turn will foster creativity and innovation.
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bobman1235 wrote: »The only reason that SOME maps have the equator so far down is so there isn't a huge blob of Antarctica at the bottom. QUOTE]
That's interesting.
Why not just cut off the top and the bottom equally then you could keep the equator in the center. I'm sure Greenland would be upset but screw them. -
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Maps, just like most things in the pre-wussified PC world, were not created to make people happy or make everyone feel equal like Mr. Peter's Map would like you to believe. They were created to do a job. The Mercator map was created to show accurate distances, at the cost of some scale far away from the equator. The Peter's Map is just as inaccurate, arguably more so - it tries to make every country the correct size in area but pretty much ignores everything else.
I understand your point about moving the equator, I guess, but I really really don't think it's some nefarious plot, it just makes sense from a logical perspective to not have a third of the map covered by Antarctica when it's really such a small (and completely uninhabited, in a permanent sense) part of the globe.If you will it, dude, it is no dream. -
Certain people knew the earth was round before BC. They even calculated the circumferance to with in 1%.
They did it by digging two holes, measuring distances and recording time accurately.
That columbus story about falling off the earth is focklore and big BS.
Most educated men of the time of Columbus knew it wasn't flat.
The only way to make a map of the world accurate IS to make it a globe.
Anything else is BS. Flat maps will always have to give up something
to get the job done. Moving around where the distortion of scale is
at is just that. I did have a grade school teacher flatten out a grapefruit
peel to show us why it's hard to map out a globe on a flat plain."The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
