MIT Terminator 2 Speaker Cables-DEMO

Ricardo

Thanks for the update acsubie.

Brock, let us know how those newer MIT's compare to the demo pair.

Anthony, do you want to be palced next in line after phuz?

phipiper10

Believe I follow Phuzz in the list if that's still ok. This is coming at a perfect time for me. I've got no money but getting a new demo at no charge is perfect.

I look forward to hearing them and giving some feedback. I've passed on my addy to phuzz.

Thanks!
Rich

phuz

I've gotten the PMs, and am keeping an eye out for the cables. Looking forward to this! Thanks!

Ricardo

Rich, yes you do follow Phuz. Anthony (amulford) was in line before phuz but he could not take delivery, so that's why I am asking if he wants to go after him. Of course if he cannot take them the cables will go to you

phipiper10

Got it. Thanks.

phuz

Got them today. They're hooked up and warming up.

Question: I've never seen or known about the imedance matching feature in the interconnets. What should this be set to? Or how do I know what to set it to? Any documentation would be helpful.

Face

Look in your pre's owners manual under specs, input impedance.

reeltrouble1

Phuz,

You need to know the input impedence for the gear the signal is going to, if you cannot find out set the switch in the middle.

RT1

reeltrouble1

doubled

phuz

Ok folks I'm wrapping up my demo.

Rich, please PM me your address/info and I'll get them on their probably Tuesday.

heiney9

heiney9 wrote: »

I The bass is much more solid and the highs have a crispness and air around them that I like very much. The sound stage has opened up even more especially the depth and separation between instruments and singers.

H9

Check this out someone is using my review in their add on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/MIT-Terminator-2-Speaker-Interface-Cables-8-foot-pair_W0QQitemZ180301455294QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item180301455294&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318


MIT audio cables to me are the best! One reviewer on the Polk Audio Forum explains it this way:

"...the bass is much more solid, highs have a crispness and air around them, the sound stage has opened up - even more the depth and separation between instruments and singers..."

This is taken straight from the body of his ad. Wonder if I get 15% of the sale?

H9

phuz

Knock knock, is this thing on? Who's next, and where do they go? Please PM me. I'm just sitting on them right now waiting on info. Thanks.

phipiper10

I sent my addy back on the 6th but just resent today via PM.


Thanks
Rich

phuz

Sorry Rich had forgotten about that PM. They're on their way. Should be there on the 6th.

When I get a minute I'll try to write something up. I will say I really enjoyed the cables and they did make a difference over my Kimber 8tc/Hero combo. Considering overall synergy I'm thinking I'll maybe upgrade my pre and/or amp before I go on a cable binge though.

Thanks for this opportunity guys. When I get a moment I've got some stuff going up for Karma so keep an eye out...

Ricardo

Rich confirmed he got the cables; Sal, I need to ask Mark to add you to the list.

phipiper10

Who's up next? I'll send these out next week.

Thanks so much for the opportunity to demo these, it's much appreciated. I will report back shortly after I put my AQ back in.

Thanks again,
Rich

Ricardo

Strider is next (post #1 has the list).

disneyjoe7

Strider
DisneyJoe7 YES


I will be gone next week so if some reason you need me to receive any cables can that be hold for another week? I hate to be skipped over, but it's your call.

phipiper10

I'll PM Strider for an addy.

Rich

phipiper10

Cables shipped today to Strider. Thanks guys and write up to follow shortly.

Rich

phipiper10

Ok got the cables and then realized the spades were too small for the binding posts on the Tylers so had to spend a few more bucks on adapters(bummer).
No worries they were here just a few days later. I hadn't listened to my system closely in quite a few days and decided to just put on both the ICs and the
speaker wire rather than trying to determine sonic signature of each.

Finally had a chance to really listen on the 3rd or 4th day with some uninterrupted time.

Listened to the usual lot
Garcia, Grisman Rice (HDCD)
Neil Young (HDCD)
Sara McLauchlan
Eva Cassidy
Leo Kotke
Norah Jones

I found a few areas of distinct difference and other areas I didn't find much noticeable difference at all.

Biggest difference and one I saw others mention was low end. Undoubtedly more bass. Not necessarily tighter or faster etc. just more of it.
My speakers are only about 18" from the wall so if I were to have these cables permanently I might think them to pronounced. It would probably require new cables or me to move the speakers further from the wall. Not sure which is the more honest cable in this regard.

I didn't find much difference in highs to be honest, the MITs could have been slightly richer in overall tone and may have aided the mids just a hair
but as mentioned the real difference was in the pronounced bass.

The other main difference(s) was the music had more separation between instruments. I don't mean space and air. I mean that each instrument was almost comparmentalized and was very distinct from the others in the sound stage. The instruments were also pushed forward towards me.
The sound came out in front of the speakers more than I had ever heard. It wasn't necessarily from the direction of the speakers themselves as instruments were still where they were supposed to be just "out in front". The stage didn't become wider or higher.

It was certainly a different sound. More than I was expecting really. Of course the differences were more or less pronounced on different tracks and dics.

After this brief demo they are certainly a brand of cable I would consider. It's hard to say though if after long periods I'd still be intrigued by the separation/compartmentalization of the instruments. Couldn't decide if it was "natural" or just different or what. It was defintely cool.

Anyway it was a great to be able to check these out. Thanks guys for giving us all the opportunity to have a listen. Greatly appreciated.

Rich

Ricardo

Thanks for the write up Rich. You should listen to the newer MIT speaker cables

phipiper10

Ok, will await next demo offer or lottery winnings:D

strider

My time is up with the MITs, unfortunately. Got some good ear time with the interconnects but not much time with the speaker cables as there wasn't a viable way to make them work with my tiny integrated. I will get to listen to them tonight, then they're off to Steve on Monday.


Ricardo and Ted, thanks for putting your gear out on the line so I could try it out. I'll write some more comments on the sound a bit later this weekend.

Ben

disneyjoe7

Cool Look forward for this.

strider

Cables got shipped today to DisneyJoe7, should be there by the end of the week.

After reclaiming my Rotel from a friend who's been using it, I was able to listen to the Terminator speaker cables Saturday and Sunday. I used my normal front end, a Sony SCD-C555ES SACD player hooked to my Tim Rawson built Pass B1 Buffer pre with MIT Terminator 3 ICs and a Pro-ject Debut III with the stock (captured) ICs to a Bugle phono pre which was connected to the B1 with MIT Terminator 4 ICs. The MIT cables took the place of Belden 5T00UP 10AWG wire from Bluejeans Cable. Initial observation was that the music sounded louder although the volume knob hadn't been touched. Bass was a bit tighter and more defined. Better seperation of images in the soundstage, ability to discern instruments from one another was improved. Most obvious improvement was during a live version of Dark Star off of one of the Dick's Picks series. There's a passage where previously I'd heard a metallic percussive instrument that started out as a light but quick sound that crescendoed into a loud crash, sounded as if it were located high and to the right of the soundstage; with the MITs I could tell it was a set of gongs set up behind the r/s drummer that were set up with the smaller ones to the left and then getting larger to the right. They were struck lightly at first, starting with the smaller one, then got louder as the sound panned to the right. I did enjoy these cables in my system more then the Belden, but I couldn't tell you if it were the quality of the cable, the synergy the MIT cables had with the MIT ICs that were used throughout, or a combination of both.

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to use the Terminators with my system as it has been recently. The integrated I've been using to drive my Fonkens is so small I couldn't fit the spades to the binding posts in a way that I was comfortable with. While I was curious to hear the combo of the Fonkens and the MIT cables, I wasn't disappointed that I didn't get to listen to them. The combination of a Class T amp and the Fostex drivers in the Fonkens like a bit more resistance in the speaker cables to help control the driver better. I've been using a twisted pair of Cat 5 cable for each of the positive and negative connections to achieve this.

The Shotgun 3 ICs were very impressive. I was able to use them right away to connect the CDP to the Trends TA-10.1 run as an integrated amp first. They replaced a pair of Kimber PBJs, and trounced them in performance. The brass section sounded harsh and generically metallic with the PBJs, with the Shotguns the trumpets sounded smoother and more "brass-y" with that resonance you hear from the bell after the note's left it. Saxes sounded reedy and throaty, esp the bigger tenors and bari saxes. Cymbals had a similar improvement, the metallic crashing changed to a shimmery, splashy sound with more brass body to it. Bass guitars growled more, plucked metal strings had that "skritch" sound more evident.

In the middle of my demo I received the B1 pre from Mr. Rawson. I was hesitant to use it in front of the pre because, quite honestly, I don't completely understand the concept behind how this thing controls the volume. I know the input impedance of the unit is dictated by the resistance of the volume control potentiometer, but I'm not sure if the input impedance changes with the settings of the volume knob. With the impedance matching switch on the cables, I wasn't certain they wouldn't be harmed in some way. Here's a link if you'd like to read more about the B1. Lemme know if you can explain it more to me. At this point I switched the TA-10.1 to be used as a power amp only with the B1 as the pre. I used the Shotguns between the two, with a pair of Terminator 3 ICs between the CDP and the pre. Some of the harshness was back when listening to CD as the source. Not as bad as with the PBJs, but still a noticeable degradation in SQ. These things are pricey, on A-gon prices are in the $300 range, but I will own a pair one day. Ted, thanks for letting me live like you big dogs, even if it were temporarily.

Thanks to Ricardo as well, for the opportunity to listen to something different and the reminder of how cool the people around here are.

reeltrouble1

Glad you enjoyed the connects Ben and Rich, I acquired things a little bit at a time, Joe Abrams is the MAN for MIT on the Gon.

DJ7--Please try not to drop them..............................;)

Take care guys.

RT1

disneyjoe7

RT1-- Knowing that they are ours I not sure you're getting them back.............................;)

disneyjoe7

Just an update got the package today, package was fine and all is in good order.

disneyjoe7

PM'd nikolas812 he's next