Loss of hearing

riglehart
riglehart Posts: 276
edited May 2008 in The Clubhouse
Ok. This is depressing. Especially for folks who frequent this site.

My kids said that some kids at school are using the below sound as a ring tone in school. Supposedly, most people over 35 can't hear it. I'm 42 and can MAYBE hear it a little.

Listen to it and wiegh in. There's a 60hz "hum" on the recording, that's not it. My 10 year old daughter says she can hear a high pitch noise that hurts her ears when you turn up the PC speakers.

http://lm2005.googlepages.com/highfreq1.mp3

If you can't hear it, grab a kid. Maybe I'm being duped by mine.

EDIT: Turn down the volume. Appears it is pretty nasty for those who can hear it.
Jolida Tube
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,196
    edited April 2008
    That drives me NUTS!!! ARGhhhhHHH!!!

    Don't do that again!

    I hear that crap with TV's and electronics sometimes. Can you say "headache, here we come?".
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited April 2008
    I have to turn it up to hear it. Would never notice it as a ring tone though.

    When they come up with a cell phone ring tone kids can hear that is around 5-10hz I'll be impressed. Until then, easy come, easy go.

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  • riglehart
    riglehart Posts: 276
    edited April 2008
    treitz3 wrote: »
    That drives me NUTS!!! ARGhhhhHHH!!!

    Don't do that again!

    I hear that crap with TV's and electronics sometimes. Can you say "headache, here we come?".

    Consider yourself lucky. I don't hear squat.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,196
    edited April 2008
    No sir. Not lucky. It's a curse. One that I would trade with you in a heartbeat. Imagine hearing a "sound" of a TV being turned on downstairs with the volume all of the way down. That **** will wake me up from a dead sleep. No one else in my family hears it unless I walk them to the TV and point out and describe what it is that I am hearing. Even then, sometimes they don't hear it.

    The grass is always greener on the other side my friend. Trust me, it's not a pleasant sound.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,341
    edited April 2008
    High pitched ring. It's sounds pretty clear to me with these old ears.
    Carl

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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited April 2008
    High pitched sensitivity is the first to go. I can hear it and it's not fun to hear at all. I also hear the TV noise as well. I hate when a TV is on with the volume all the way down.

    It originated in england as a way to keep kids from hanging out outside shops. Deters kids but the old fogies don't care because they can't hear it.

    I think that one is only the 17Hz one...I did a powerpoint and put a 21 Hz tone in it...that one really hurt the ears.
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited April 2008
    Airplay355 wrote: »
    I think that one is only the 17Hz one...I did a powerpoint and put a 21 Hz tone in it...that one really hurt the ears.

    kHz, not Hz. :)
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited April 2008
    Loud and clear. Very anoying.
    Michael ;)
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  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited April 2008
    GF hears it well, Cat attacked the laptop, I can't really 'hear' it, but can feel a tickle in my inner ears.
    -Ignorance is strength -
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  • candyliquor35m
    candyliquor35m Posts: 2,267
    edited April 2008
    Loud and clear here.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited April 2008
    my tired old ears can hear it too. once I crank it some.. but yeah, it's there for sure.
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  • Eriol
    Eriol Posts: 3
    edited April 2008
    I've been hearing that since I was five years old... welcome to tinnitus, my friends.

    Very minor in my case, but I empathize with people who have it severely.

    I think that's an awesome idea to use that as a ringtone in an area where you're not supposed to have a cellphone -- even the people who can hear it will have no idea what it is. :)
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  • mule
    mule Posts: 282
    edited April 2008
    I can hear that and my hearing is horrible.

    What I cannot hear is the beeper on my washing machine, my gf can hear it even if the laundry room door is closed.

    Whats funny is that a friend who is 32 told me his younger brother and sister use this ring tone he cannot hear, but he thought they were just playing pranks on him but maybe its for real, huh.
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  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited April 2008
    treitz3 wrote: »
    That drives me NUTS!!! ARGhhhhHHH!!!

    Don't do that again!

    I hear that crap with TV's and electronics sometimes. Can you say "headache, here we come?".

    OUCH!!!! Dude that hurt. I am glad I had my PC speaker volume way down.

    I used to hate going to certain stores because of all the TV's. That sound drives me nuts.

    I am so happy the world is going Plasma and LCD. I don't have hear that sound as much anymore.
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited May 2008
    riglehart wrote: »
    My kids said that some kids at school are using the below sound as a ring tone in school.

    Working in the cell phone industry, I can tell you that's a new urban legend. :)
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  • dcmeigs
    dcmeigs Posts: 708
    edited May 2008
    18Khz? That pain you feel is your leg being pulled. No question it's audable on the silk dome tweeters, but there is no way the POS transducer in a cell phone is going to produce that high a frequency. Take their phone off vibrate and see if they can still "hear" it.
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,664
    edited May 2008
    I can hear it. Did she hit you with a pillow to get your attention and to stop it.:D WOW that a nasty sound.

    engtaz
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    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited May 2008
    dcmeigs wrote: »
    18Khz? That pain you feel is your leg being pulled. No question it's audable on the silk dome tweeters, but there is no way the POS transducer in a cell phone is going to produce that high a frequency. Take their phone off vibrate and see if they can still "hear" it.

    Is this true about cheap computer speakers, as well?
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  • jamesguthrie
    jamesguthrie Posts: 39
    edited May 2008
    Early B. wrote: »
    Is this true about cheap computer speakers, as well?

    Must be. I tried listening at work earlier today, and heard nothing. Knowing I have pretty good hearing, I tried at home and heard it fine. At work I was listening through the speakers in my LCD monitor.
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  • Phasearray
    Phasearray Posts: 437
    edited May 2008
    it's not that high pitch. IMO, if you can't hear it there's something wrong with yoru hearing.
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited May 2008
    Phasearray wrote: »
    it's not that high pitch. IMO, if you can't hear it there's something wrong with yoru hearing.

    Yes, it's called old age.
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  • dcmeigs
    dcmeigs Posts: 708
    edited May 2008
    Phasearray wrote: »
    it's not that high pitch. IMO, if you can't hear it there's something wrong with yoru hearing.

    If one hears it on good equipment and not on cheap equipment, what does that say to you?
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  • ShinAce
    ShinAce Posts: 1,194
    edited May 2008
    That tells me there's a sensitivty difference, nothing more.

    I'm also one of those that can hear the high pitched squeal on some TVs and other electronic hissing. Pisses me off because even my friends(all in their 20's) usually don't hear it, even if I turn the TV off and back on again.
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  • Phasearray
    Phasearray Posts: 437
    edited May 2008
    dcmeigs wrote: »
    If one hears it on good equipment and not on cheap equipment, what does that say to you?

    Im using my Dell laptop onboard speakers
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited May 2008
    I turned this up pretty good at my office right now and just about died. Guess my ears work. I did have to crank the dial pretty good to hear it, though.

    My office system is pretty decent (Denon S-301) so maybe that helped me hear it loud and annoying and clear.
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  • Phasearray
    Phasearray Posts: 437
    edited May 2008
    AndyGwis wrote: »
    I turned this up pretty good at my office right now and just about died. Guess my ears work. I did have to crank the dial pretty good to hear it, though.

    My office system is pretty decent (Denon S-301) so maybe that helped me hear it loud and annoying and clear.

    Total guess here. But perhaps some of the cheaper speakers some people are using with their computer needs to overcome a certain threshold before the speakers are capable of vibrating at that frequency which is why so many people had to turn it up to hear it.
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  • sophie
    sophie Posts: 511
    edited May 2008
    i can here it but my mom can't here it until it is unbearable for me. my dad is somewhere in between.

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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited May 2008
    I heard it on my laptop's speakers...so I dont think you should count out not hearing it because you have crappy speakers, it might just be less loud.
    -Cody
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