Newbie lsi9 + marantz

albatross
albatross Posts: 2
edited April 2008 in Speakers
Hi everyone:


I've just bought a pair of lsi9 and i was wondering if the Marantz pm7001
would have enough power to drive my speakers.
And if you got a better suggestion of another stereo amplifier will be very apreciated (less than us$ 1.000):o

thank you.

marantz specs:

PM7001 Integrated Amplifier | $599.99
The PM7001 stereo integrated amplifier is the perfect solution for the audiophile seeking uncompromising musicality with flexible operation.

* 70Watt/Ch Into 8 ohm /100 Watts/Ch Into 4 ohm
* High Speed Instantaneous Current Supply Power Amp Design
* New Power Stage construction
* Current Feedback Topology Volume Amp and Power Amp
* On-Board HDAM® SA Technology
* High S/N ratio and Channel Separation Input Buffer Circuit
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Comments

  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited April 2008
    That's a solid integrated amp. I've listened to it with a lot of different speakers at an audio store in Des Moines IA. With the high current design it should be adequate for the LSi9's unless you are in a huge room or want to listen at high volume levels.
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited April 2008
    ^ what that dude said.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • albatross
    albatross Posts: 2
    edited April 2008
    thank you. On my way to buy one right now
  • cyberhazard
    cyberhazard Posts: 67
    edited April 2008
    No, don't do it.
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  • furball
    furball Posts: 234
    edited April 2008
    That Marantz is on the anemic side when it comes to 4 ohm loads.

    If you already have a preamp or have a receiver that has preouts, take a look at the Parasound A23. A much more solid amp, and it wont break your bank.
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited April 2008
    I've heard that little integrated run Magnepan 1.6's, and it did a fair job. You can't put it in the same class as the Parasound Halo line, and it isn't even close to being in that price range. It's a good solid integrated amp that you could start out with for the LSi9's, and you're going to do alright on reselling it when you want to move up to something like the Parasound Halo line.
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
  • mightymouse
    mightymouse Posts: 254
    edited April 2008
    What's considered a good price for that Marantz?
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited April 2008
    I have seen them new for $399 + shipping, in the past. Not a piece of gear I keep tabs on, but happen on them when searching for other things.
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
  • mightymouse
    mightymouse Posts: 254
    edited April 2008
    $399 is definitely a good price for such a nice integrated.:)
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited April 2008
    dkg999 wrote: »
    I've heard that little integrated run Magnepan 1.6's, and it did a fair job. You can't put it in the same class as the Parasound Halo line, and it isn't even close to being in that price range. It's a good solid integrated amp that you could start out with for the LSi9's, and you're going to do alright on reselling it when you want to move up to something like the Parasound Halo line.
    Magnepans are probably easier to drive than anything from the LSi series.
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited April 2008
    Face wrote: »
    Magnepans are probably easier to drive than anything from the LSi series.

    Do you own Magnepans? I do. I also own LSi's. Wishful thinking on the "probably".
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited April 2008
    They're right in my sig.

    Maggie impedance curves are usually nice and flat at 4ohms, meanwhile a LSi9's dips down to 2ohms.

    Anything else you'd like to add?
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited April 2008
    The 1.6's are a little different animal than the MMG's. I can drive MMG's nicely with my NAD receiver. The LSi9/7 have seemed much easier to drive in my experimentation than the Magnepan 1.6's. That same NAD receiver will drive the LSi7 nicely, and do an admirable job with the LSi9. It will die on the 1.6's.

    Sorry to come off short, and didn't notice the MMG's in your sig.
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited April 2008
    Most maggies are similar in design and have the same flat impedance curve.

    You may believe your receiver is having a harder time with them due to their less efficient design than the LSi's. When I hook up my maggies, I have to almost use double the volume as I would with my Tannoys to reach my usual listening level.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited April 2008
    I don't even factor in the volume setting, I'm refering to sound quality.

    Back to the OP's question, I believe the Marantz IA is going to do just fine with the LSi9's within the boundries outlined. You can throw around technical specs all day long, but the LSi's aren't that hard to drive, and I'm pretty much convinced that you can get decent sound with a wider range of amps and receivers than most of the comments here would lead you to believe. To get outstanding performance, and get the most out of them, then you need some good source gear. YMMV.
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
  • AudioFilet
    AudioFilet Posts: 235
    edited April 2008
    ^^ I would have to agree that the 9's are not that difficult to drive. My old 70's integrated by Technics (73 WPC) handled them quite well. So do my HK 3480 and Outlaw RR 2150 receivers.
    2 Channel rig:
    LSi9"s (modified xover's) & HSU Sub
    Harman Kardon HK 990 Amp
    Onkyo C-S5VL SACD
    Music Hall MMF 5.1
    Furman Elite 15

    HT rig:
    HK AVR-745 & Polk Monitor Series
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited April 2008
    dkg999 wrote: »
    Back to the OP's question, I believe the Marantz IA is going to do just fine with the LSi9's within the boundries outlined. You can throw around technical specs all day long, but the LSi's aren't that hard to drive, and I'm pretty much convinced that you can get decent sound with a wider range of amps and receivers than most of the comments here would lead you to believe. To get outstanding performance, and get the most out of them, then you need some good source gear. YMMV.

    Exactly. The poster didn't ask if it was the "ultimate" setup, he asked if it would work well. As dkg pointed out, small to med room and moderate volumes, you'll be fine--later down the road if you feel the need, you can get an external power amp.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2